EA Sports WRC: General Discussion

[doblocruiser]

I most likely won't get most of the achievements since I'll be to busy trashing those pugs around 🤣

 

[mika haka]

The thing to remember with games going all in the full hardcore sim is you limit your audience. People will read reviews and if casual reviewers and non racing game guys struggle, majority of casual players will probably skip. Even if you throw all the assists at it, it never really works (pc2, ACC).

DR2.0 had over 12 million players through its life, that’s huge for a rally ‘sim’ and therefore still needs to be fun for a lot of people and WRC will follow that. It’ll be as much sim as they can afford to throw at it before the numbers decline.

If the figures are accurate, DR2 sold nearly 1 million on steam alone, meaning around 11 million coming from console (inc GamePass and the game hitting PS Plus at one point), RBR less than 400k, and probably less than double on console. Those numbers will sit with devs when deciding what to do.

So I’m ok with it not being absolutely all out hardcore sim, because that can be at the detriment of, not only the sale, but also the overall enjoyment and the future of the series.

This for me is where developers are missing a trick.


It cant be that hard to have 2 handling models in a game.


One sim one arcade


Sell double the amount

 

[MagpieRacer]

This for me is where developers are missing a trick.


It cant be that hard to have 2 handling models in a game.


One sim one arcade


Sell double the amount

Dirt 4 did that, had ‘gamer’ mode which was arcade and then simulation mode which was meant to be as good, if not better, than Dirt Rally. Problem is neither were particularly good and simulation was pretty rubbish.

Never really works when developers do try it sadly.

 

[sirjim73]

Dirt 4 did that, had ‘gamer’ mode which was arcade and then simulation mode which was meant to be as good, if not better, than Dirt Rally. Problem is neither were particularly good and simulation was pretty rubbish.

Never really works when developers do try it sadly.

There's also a "Simulation" steering option in Forza Motorsport, though it's less of a mode. I agree it's been tried multiple times and never works as well in practice as the theory suggests. I think the issue is the physics element can only be "optimal" for one or the other, its nigh on impossible for both. You'd have to have two completely different games on the same "disc" at a core level.

Also what's with the forum "shuffle" confusing my poor brain. The two Forza games have swapped places in the list and Dirt is now EA WRC and has also moved up the list I think?

I blame that evil Mr @Famine

 

[MagpieRacer]

There's also a "Simulation" steering option in Forza Motorsport, though it's less of a mode. I agree it's been tried multiple times and never works as well in practice as the theory suggests. I think the issue is the physics element can only be "optimal" for one or the other, its nigh on impossible for both. You'd have to have two completely different games on the same "disc" at a core level.

Also what's with the forum "shuffle" confusing my poor brain. The two Forza games have swapped places in the list and Dirt is now EA WRC and has also moved up the list I think?

I blame that evil Mr @Famine

Yeah and even on Forza the simulation steering is horrendous on a controller.

Sorry you can actually blame me for the shuffle, I suggested it in the forum suggestions a while back and Jordan has obliged it. I think this game will be super popular when it launches and thought it deserved its own space. With the clubs, moments, photomode etc, should’ve plenty to justify its own home 🙂.

 

[sirjim73]

Yeah and even on Forza the simulation steering is horrendous on a controller.

Sorry you can actually blame me for the shuffle, I suggested it in the forum suggestions a while back and Jordan has obliged it. I think this game will be super popular when it launches and thought it deserved its own space. With the clubs, moments, photomode etc, should’ve plenty to justify its own home 🙂.

From what I've seen pre release, it does feel like it deserves to be popular.

I always thought the KT games needed a thread too, but no doubt the EA name increases it's profile.

I'm still blaming you though when I click on the wrong thread because everything has moved down one

 

[PJTierney]

Cheeky branding request from me, can we get SPORTS to be all caps in the thread and category?

 

[FrankieStail]

The game already has an arcade and sim mode, assists either on or off to whatever degree is needed.

 

[MagpieRacer]

The game already has an arcade and sim mode, assists either on or off to whatever degree is needed.

Not quite sure that’s how it works 😅.

 

[MrLonguinha17]

Strange that in a game that is not dedicated to Rally (Forza Motorsport 7)...from what I saw in the list of cars, there are 2 Toyota models (205 and 185)

 

[MagpieRacer]

Strange that in a game that is not dedicated to Rally (Forza Motorsport 7)...from what I saw in the list of cars, there are 2 Toyota models (205 and 185)

There’s been a few issues between EA and Toyota since they pulled licensing because they didn’t want their cars to be involved in illegal street racing. This seems to have hurt getting Toyota licensing for any EA game. They’re clearly willing to license the rally cars to others (heck even WRC Generations had a Celica and the Corolla), but not to EA.

The Rally1 Yaris gets in because it’s part of the WRC license.

It’s frustrating but it must be equally frustrating for Codemasters knowing that Toyota licensed cars to the last WRC game.

 

[Rivanov]

Cheeky branding request from me, can we get SPORTS to be all caps in the thread and category?

When you make sure we get proper triple screen support.

 

[doblocruiser]

Comparaison Monte Carlo RL vs GAME

 

[ManuBicht]

From the creators of "RBR... the most realistic simulation"... to the creators of "the pivot and CM"" xD. People have a lot of free time.

 

[bogani]

There’s been a few issues between EA and Toyota since they pulled licensing because they didn’t want their cars to be involved in illegal street racing. This seems to have hurt getting Toyota licensing for any EA game. They’re clearly willing to license the rally cars to others (heck even WRC Generations had a Celica and the Corolla), but not to EA.

The Rally1 Yaris gets in because it’s part of the WRC license.

It’s frustrating but it must be equally frustrating for Codemasters knowing that Toyota licensed cars to the last WRC game.

The issue is more between Toyota and Codemasters than EA, sadly.

 

[SestoScudo]

There’s been a few issues between EA and Toyota since they pulled licensing because they didn’t want their cars to be involved in illegal street racing. This seems to have hurt getting Toyota licensing for any EA game. They’re clearly willing to license the rally cars to others (heck even WRC Generations had a Celica and the Corolla), but not to EA.

The Rally1 Yaris gets in because it’s part of the WRC license.

It’s frustrating but it must be equally frustrating for Codemasters knowing that Toyota licensed cars to the last WRC game.

Dirt Rally 1 and 2 also did not feature Toyota cars.

Something really wrong with Toyota.

 

[MagpieRacer]

The issue is more between Toyota and Codemasters than EA, sadly.

If the story about CM being blacklisted by Toyota is true then yeah, add in EA and it’s probably never going to happen sadly.

 

[SestoScudo]

EA WRC - "Long easy right. Maybe!"

www.rllmukforum.com

I dont know how legit it is but it seems CM got blacklisted by Toyota over a royalty payment.

Oh well I hope Codemasters can get some Ferrari Rally cars in.

Who needs Toyota when they are acting like p*icks.

 

[MagpieRacer]

EA WRC - "Long easy right. Maybe!"

www.rllmukforum.com

I dont know how legit it is but it seems CM got blacklisted by Toyota over a royalty payment.

Oh well I hope Codemasters can get some Ferrari Rally cars in.

Who needs Toyota when they are acting like p*icks.

Yeah I’d read that too, shame if true, stuff happens and you need to move on.

I can live without Toyota, but with that said, I did always love the Corolla WRC and would love to see a Codemasters version of it.

 

[MrLonguinha17]

Yeah I’d read that too, shame if true, stuff happens and you need to move on.

I can live without Toyota, but with that said, I did always love the Corolla WRC and would love to see a Codemasters version of it.

Some older rally games that come to mind that I played and most had the Toyota Corolla or some Celica officially (not actually from the World Rally Championship).
Colin McRae 1, 2, 3
International Rally Championship
Rally Masters
Pro Rally 2001/Ubisoft

 

[SestoScudo]

Yeah I’d read that too, shame if true, stuff happens and you need to move on.

I can live without Toyota, but with that said, I did always love the Corolla WRC and would love to see a Codemasters version of it.

I would love it if we get Toyota rally cars.

At the same time I wont lose sleep over it. When they are acting like this.

CM is better off getting other brands in no need to waste time with certain car brands and their smug atitude.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Some older rally games that come to mind that I played and most had the Toyota Corolla or some Celica officially (not actually from the World Rally Championship).Colin McRae 1, 2, 3International Rally ChampionshipRally MastersPro Rally 2001/Ubisoft

Rally Masters was great, really fun game. Remember using the Corolla a lot in RalliSport Challenge 2 as well.

 

[ManuBicht]

The Toyota brand thing is a real shame. I don't understand what could have gone wrong... the representation of Toyota by this ingenious studio was always very good.

 

[MagpieRacer]

The Toyota brand thing is a real shame. I don't understand what could have gone wrong... the representation of Toyota by this ingenious studio was always very good.

Money. Or lack of it according to the story.

Honestly I think I’d rather have the Octavia WRC or Accent WRC anyway.

8 1/2 days to early access.

 

[UKMikey]

Sim's final video before release as he's reached the three video limit which has been imposed upon him by EA. It has some discussion regarding the physics.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Caught this one this morning, excellent video, his videos on the game have generally been excellent.

 

[PJTierney]

Sim's final video before release as he'sreached the three video limit which has been imposed upon him by EA. It has some discussion regarding the physics.

I'm glad Sim finally got a preview code.

 

[UKMikey]

I'm glad Sim finally got a preview code.

Me too.

Yay, he's joined the Creator Network. About bloody time.

As far as RBR fans complaining about cars turning around a central pivot point are concerned someone made a video on Reddit which seems to provide some counterevidence as to whether their theory is correct.

Seems like the back of the car would smash into the wall if there were one to me.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Me too.As far as RBR fans complaining about cars turning around a central pivot point are concerned someone made a video on Reddit which seems to provide some counterevidence as to whether their theory is correct.

Seems like the back of the car would smash into the wall if there were one to me.

There 100% isn’t one. There’s enough evidence in my opinion to disprove the theory completely as well as explanations to why it ‘looks’ like the cars pivot.

The video trying to prove there was one certainly caused vigorous discussion in the Discord Channel. @PJTierney have you seen the video? /S 😂

 

[Jtheripper]

There 100% isn’t one. There’s enough evidence in my opinion to disprove the theory completely as well as explanations to why it ‘looks’ like the cars pivot.

The video trying to prove there was one certainly caused vigorous discussion in the Discord Channel. @PJTierney have you seen the video? /S 😂

You're previous post:
It’s a flaw that has been part of Codemasters since the Stone Age. It was expected to be here as the physics were ported from Dirt Rally 2.0. Given the work they’ve done so far, I think it would have been a bit much to expect a new physics engine.

Lol...