EA Sports WRC: General Discussion

[LloydNebulon]

This talk of VRR is reminding me of DiRT 5 which is a title that DOES have native VRR support. However, I never used it because DiRT 5 also has a native 120Hz mode. I got the game for free from PS Plus and didn't like it (not my style of racing game), but my God is it a gorgeous game, both at 60fps and 120fps. It's on the Onrush engine, has beautiful graphics, stunning HDR, runs smooth as butter and the weather effects are superb.

It's such a bummer CM decided to abandon their in-house engines and move to Unreal Engine. And I am sure the decision had nothing to do with 30km stages; it was likely a penny-pinching move to be able to maintain fewer higher-paid specialists in the studio proper and be able to subcontract work out remotely to Unreal Engine "experts" around the globe.

The results are clear for all to see.

I agree Dirt 5 was gorgeous. I wouldn’t be surprised if what you say is true. I had a sinking feeling as soon as I heard EA acquired Codemasters. I knew it was only going to get worse.

I’m not saying it’s blameless, I’m calling you out for needless and baseless accusations of laziness and incompetence, I do find that unacceptable, if you disagree then that speaks more to your character than it does anything else.

You can blame what you want, if you can’t form a constructive argument and just go about belittling developers and calling it a day then I’ve got less than zero care for your opinion anymore.

MagpieRacer are you a Codemaster developer? Just wondering, because you seem awful defensive of Codemasters. I think everyone is just frustrated and trying to be objective. If you are a developer please educate us on the working conditions at Codemasters.

 

[Pfei]

@half_sourly @PJTierney Yes indeed my pedal vibration problem was from BLI. It was at 65 on the preset I was using. I turned it off and now everything is perfect.

Thank you.

Edit for clarification: the "preset" I mention has nothing to do with the game. I refer to one of the five presets you can program on Fanatec wheels. The one I decided to dedicate to EA WRC, well, I must have messed around with it before and forgot because BLI is supposed to be off by default but on this particular preset it was at 65 which is what was causing the pedal to vibrate at 65% travel.

Not a problem caused by the game, rather from my oversight with my wheel settings.

 

[MagpieRacer]

MagpieRacer are you a Codemaster developer? Just wondering, because you seem awful defensive of Codemasters. I think everyone is just frustrated and trying to be objective. If you are a developer please educate us on the working conditions at Codemasters.

Oh sorry I forgot that disagreeing with derogatory comments and enjoying a game must mean I work for the company.

🤦🏻‍♂️

 

[LloydNebulon]

Oh sorry I forgot that disagreeing with derogatory comments and enjoying a game must mean I work for the company.

🤦🏻‍♂️

I wouldn’t be surprised.

 

[m355y]

What the.. "Central European Rally" has just Czech stages?! Talking about taking the easy way out..

All the events are one big stage cut up, and so with this one I suppose they had to kinda pre-empt what the real-life event would be like because it was finalised so late in terms of stages and locations. So they’ve based in in the Czech Rep but put in things like German road signs and varied the scenery to give the essence of the event. I think that’s all that could have been asked really, even if the new event isn’t my favourite.

 

[MagpieRacer]

I wouldn’t be surprised.

It’s sad that this is the mindset, really sad.

All the events are one big stage cut up, and so with this one I suppose they had to kinda pre-empt what the real-life event would be like because it was finalised so late in terms of stages and locations. So they’ve based in in the Czech Rep but put in things like German road signs and varied the scenery to give the essence of the event. I think that’s all that could have been asked really, even if the new event isn’t my favourite.

Yeah 100%. I think they did pretty well all things considered. Still captures that Central Europe feel with the super high speed sections and the elevation that goes on throughout. Think it’s probably my 2nd favourite tarmac event behind Corsica.

 

[Strittan]

Oh sorry I forgot that disagreeing with derogatory comments and enjoying a game must mean I work for the company.

🤦🏻‍♂️

You’re just as derogatory yourself, but to people disagreeing with you instead of to the company in question, which is probably why he suspects you’re an employee.

 

[MagpieRacer]

You’re just as derogatory yourself, but to people disagreeing with you instead of to the company in question, which is probably why he suspects you’re an employee.

Well if you can point me in the direction of where I’ve been derogatory to anyone or called anyone derogatory terms? Or is disagreeing with your language towards other people derogatory to you? Is my enjoyment of the game and discussing my experience derogatory to you?

 

[Strittan]

Well if you can point me in the direction of where I’ve been derogatory to anyone or called anyone derogatory terms?

Not a specific term, but the tone is quite derogatory here:

Good for you, solid reasoning behind your debate as usual.

That’s what I got for literally and simply saying I disagree.

What did I do? I played in your favour and tried to explain myself further but all you did was saying I was coming with baseless accusations and not being constructive, without providing any “solid reasoning” yourself.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Here’s a new bug. Was fine in the first 2 shakedowns, changed the rear ride height and then my car appeared upside down.

DQd me from the shakedown, fortunately managed to pause and reset in time on the first stage.

 

[m355y]

I love the way they’re looking at it. My personal favourite bug was the one where your winning car fell off the side of the podium in the victory screen in the KT games. It looked so funny I was half convinced they left it in deliberately.

 

[Cabelmania]

Here’s a new bug. Was fine in the first 2 shakedowns, changed the rear ride height and then my car appeared upside down.

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DQd me from the shakedown, fortunately managed to pause and reset in time on the first stage.

Ah, this is clearly the cousin of the "Beneath the ground" Bug that I got a couple of times

 

[m355y]

Back on the positives, this game is the first rally game that’s really made me go back and research the older era of WRC, which I’d had very limited interest in previously. Suddenly I’m really in awe of the Group B era, starting with the Lancia 037 and through the Delta S4, the RS200, the 205 T16. For some reason I was never a massive Quattro fan, I prefer the Lancia. But I’m very interested in doing some 1985-ish events and then moving on to the early Group A era, I love the Gallant VR4 but am going to try the 555 livery for the Legacy later too. Looks like a fairly easy one. I hope.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Back on the positives, this game is the first rally game that’s really made me go back and research the older era of WRC, which I’d had very limited interest in previously. Suddenly I’m really in awe of the Group B era, starting with the Lancia 037 and through the Delta S4, the RS200, the 205 T16. For some reason I was never a massive Quattro fan, I prefer the Lancia. But I’m very interested in doing some 1985-ish events and then moving on to the early Group A era, I love the Gallant VR4 but am going to try the 555 livery for the Legacy later too. Looks like a fairly easy one. I hope.

You’ll enjoy this film coming out in January then I reckon.

 

[space_wadet]

On a more positive note, I've definitely had better performance since the last patch on PC. I can hop in the game and play a stage right away without having to play a few times first to get rid of the stutters. I only tried a couple rallies and I think I'm still on lower settings than I should be, so there are still some more improvements needed but being mostly stutter free is a huge improvement.

I'm glad the patch came in time for today's moment. 306 Maxi at Tour de Corse! Good luck everyone
PS. don't forget to tune the brake balance, stock tune is 79% front bias (!).

 

[paulpg87]

Really pissed off they were able to go backwards with this patch.

I was fine with the game and I was planning a nice holiday season.

Now it’ a mess, game breaking bugs and visually is a huge step back on ps5. Not sure we will have a hot fix by Xmas.

 

[MagpieRacer]

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On a more positive note, I've definitely had better performance since the last patch on PC. I can hop in the game and play a stage right away without having to play a few times first to get rid of the stutters. I only tried a couple rallies and I think I'm still on lower settings than I should be, so there are still some more improvements needed but being mostly stutter free is a huge improvement.

I'm glad the patch came in time for today's moment. 306 Maxi at Tour de Corse! Good luck everyone
PS. don't forget to tune the brake balance, stock tune is 79% front bias (!).

Man that 306 is twitchy.

 

[m355y]

Really pissed off they were able to go backwards with this patch.

I was fine with the game and I was planning a nice holiday season.

Now it’ a mess, game breaking bugs and visually is a huge step back on ps5. Not sure we will have a hot fix by Xmas.

I don’t think it’s that bad.

Screen tearing in some places is pretty bad, but it seems to have lessened since I’ve played a few hours post-patch. I was playing this morning and it was fine (although clearly it does depend a lot on location). The career bug is a big one, but it’s not really one that affects me. I’m also seeing the improvement in foliage etc in some places. Maybe that increase in detail is what’s worsened the tearing….it’s not ideal, but I’d rather be playing the game than endlessly moaning about it (not a dig at you, general comment). I think this whole last couple of pages on this thread is just a headache of pointless frustration really. I’m sure they’ll fix it, and the AI thing sounds close to resolution too.

 

[paulpg87]

Yes it’s bad I Just lost a career mode where i was in wrc after 5 nice seasons with tons of money and cars.

Ps5 updated overnight.

Tried to load the save, crash to main menu with Sony error log.

Tearing is insane now come on. I had less in wrc 10.

 

[cjr3559]

Yes it’s bad I Just lost a career mode were i was in wrc after 5 Nice seasons with tons of money and cars.

I was in my third season and doing well before the update.

It would be good to know if there’s any chance for a fix or should I roll with the punches and just start over from scratch.

Really disappointed ☹️

Reminds me how WRC5 was so bad at release. Thankfully KT released better iterations over time. Maybe there’s an unknown WRC license curse. Otherwise how could CM go from the success of DR2.0 to this?

 

[paulpg87]

The last wrc licensed title i enjoyed all the time was wrc4 on ps2 from evolution studios. Since then Just below average titles.

This is the best of the last 20 years but my god such a disappointement.

 

[SharkyOB]

Otherwise how could CM go from the success of DR2.0 to this?

To this excellent game where the vast majority of it is more than fine and there's a few technical issues? You've lost all sense of perspective.

I've just been having a blast doing moments and then time trials in New Zealand in the Group A cars. The game is already fantastic and I've no doubt it'll improve further.

 

[m355y]

The last wrc licensed title i enjoyed all the time was wrc4 on ps2 from evolution studios. Since then Just below average titles.

This is the best of the last 20 years but my god such a disappointement.

The Evolution Studios games were great, particularly 2:Extreme and 4. Like properly, properly great games with a big budget behind them and really good developers who loved the sport. I think that’s the best era of official games for sure, Milestone and KT just didn’t/couldn’t replicate the scale and feel of those. They still hold up quite well today.

And I agree, EA Sports WRC is the closest we’ve got to a 2023 equivalent, and it’s massively frustrating when one patch fixes one bug and creates two more - personally I think the move to UE4 was an error and one that they’re still struggling to clean up. There’s a reason why the games already heavily discounted, I don’t think many signs point to it being a greatly successful release.

But I’ve been playing it today, and it’s still okay. The tearing is annoying in places, but at least there are no longer massive frame drops. It’s still enjoyable and I just think at times you just have to shrug, think ‘this is what we’ve been given so I can either enjoy it for what it is or delete it off my HD and shout at the developers online’. I know which I think sounds more worthwhile.

 

[MagpieRacer]

The Evolution Studios games were great, particularly 2:Extreme and 4. Like properly, properly great games with a big budget behind them and really good developers who loved the sport. I think that’s the best era of official games for sure, Milestone and KT just didn’t/couldn’t replicate the scale and feel of those. They still hold up quite well today.

And I agree, EA Sports WRC is the closest we’ve got to a 2023 equivalent, and it’s massively frustrating when one patch fixes one bug and creates two more - personally I think the move to UE4 was an error and one that they’re still struggling to clean up. There’s a reason why the games already heavily discounted, I don’t think many signs point to it being a greatly successful release.

But I’ve been playing it today, and it’s still okay. The tearing is annoying in places, but at least there are no longer massive frame drops. It’s still enjoyable and I just think at times you just have to shrug, think ‘this is what we’ve been given so I can either enjoy it for what it is or delete it off my HD and shout at the developers online’. I know which I think sounds more worthwhile.

WRC4 was so good, I really like that whole series, never got to play Rally Evolved that much but loved them. Still got them all.

 

[m355y]

Evolved was an improvement over 4 in some areas, but not the ones I wanted. For starters it restricted the stages per rally from a maximum of eight to three, it added privateer cars (finally!), but, in true future KT style, only let you drive them in time trials. It added ‘unexpected events’ like rockfalls and cars on fire, which I thought were silly. It took the series away from its sweet spot for me, but loads of people love it.

 

[Strittan]

To this excellent game where the vast majority of it is more than fine and there's a few technical issues? You've lost all sense of perspective.

I've just been having a blast doing moments and then time trials in New Zealand in the Group A cars. The game is already fantastic and I've no doubt it'll improve further.

This right here is pure fanboyism.

I’m glad you enjoy the game, I do too actually, but why are you trying to stop people from pointing out the issues they’re experiencing?

 

[MagpieRacer]

Evolved was an improvement over 4 in some areas, but not the ones I wanted. For starters it restricted the stages per rally from a maximum of eight to three, it added privateer cars (finally!), but, in true future KT style, only let you drive them in time trials. It added ‘unexpected events’ like rockfalls and cars on fire, which I thought were silly. It took the series away from its sweet spot for me, but loads of people love it.

Yeah the physics improvements were really nice and the stage detail was good but I’m totally with you on that the drop of stage numbers was painful. 3 and 4 had so many, 125 and 96 respectively. 48 in rally evolved.

 

[UKMikey]

On a more positive note, I've definitely had better performance since the last patch on PC. I can hop in the game and play a stage right away without having to play a few times first to get rid of the stutters. I only tried a couple rallies and I think I'm still on lower settings than I should be, so there are still some more improvements needed but being mostly stutter free is a huge improvement.

I'm glad the patch came in time for today's moment. 306 Maxi at Tour de Corse! Good luck everyone
PS. don't forget to tune the brake balance, stock tune is 79% front bias (!).

I'm not a kit car fan and let this bloke tune it for me instead: https://wrcsetups.com/ea-sports-wrc/setups/peugeot-306-maxi-fictional

I wonder what this screen tearing thing is that other people are experiencing. I used to have the game pause for a millisecond or two but haven't noticed it recently on my console. Glad I haven't got a PS5. And no, I don't work for Codemasters.

 

[SharkyOB]

This right here is pure fanboyism.

I’m glad you enjoy the game, I do too actually, but why are you trying to stop people from pointing out the issues they’re experiencing?

Pointing out issues isn't the same as what's going on on this page (way too many typical gamer accusations of dev laziness and incompetence, oh and fanboyism if you're playing online discourse bingo). DR2 had issues when it was released too, people have very short memories.

 

[twoskodas]

I’m having alot of sound stuttering now on Xbox series x,it was perfect before the latest patch,starts after a few minutes driving and can carry on for between 30 seconds and a few minutes,anybody else experienced this issue?