This is a very painful debate (due to Y_W's inability to understand simple points of view from everyone, reworded for his clarification perfectly clearly again and again), but its still "sort of" a debate. But it should be in the music forum.
50 pence is crap. Eminem (only his early stuff) is less crap - directly because he had a funnyish sarcastic/ironic style, which stood out at the time, it was different enough for most people to notice a definate change in what rap could be about. We have ALL said that Eminem is still crap however. We were only EVER comparing Eminem and 50 shillings, so there is NO logical reason to bring other rappers into the debate.
Maybe if I put the debate in rap format, you'll get down wit' it more easily.
I don't care if yo tryin' 'n' sayin'
Ya'all got better rappaz yo could be payin'
We've only been sayin' - again and again'n
Ya ol' bro Em' is da **** compar'd t' 50 yen"
Whether there are better rappers than either 50 yen or Eminem isn't the point of THIS debate.
Nothing that liveforspeed said contradicted itself. You (Y_W) basically just want to invent a race issue out of thin air. Stop painting folks as racists. Its REALLY annoying, especially as we have all given our EXACT reasons for thinking Eminem is
slightly less crap than 50 Kupik (actually sounds more hip-hop when you use the Russian term for cent...). Namely, that GENERALLY, Eminem is funnier and doesn't rap about normal genre staples (poppin' caps in asses, hoes, hoods, etc etc) nearly as much as 50 lira.
Got what we're sayin' now Y_W?