Eminem: As bad as 50 cent
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Jmac279
Just finishing off 50 cents life summary for you.
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So the media would like you to think. People over here didnt hear off him till he dropped in da club and the media filled us in about him getting shot up. They gave us that news because by then he was already hugely popular in the states and they knew he was gonan be big so the media gave us his kinda life story in which they liekd to mention he got shot a couple of times alot.live4speed
I contest that.
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No because I was here, and no one really knew him here. I know that because I was here. As for the states, he was average in the US at that time. I know a few Americans who could back that up.Young_Warrior
And yes, by responding to people insulting hip hop, you were taking bait that was dragging you away from the original debate at hand, and hey, you've beem going round in circles since so I guess the bait worked wonders.
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Like I said before, why is GTA one of the most popular games?Young_Warrior
Violence sells.
It doesn't just have to be hip hop. Rock, rap, metal, whatever - I'm sure they've all had #1 hits with violence as the main theme.
"Ni**a for you, I kill a whole God damn crew (Why?)
'Cause I know you'd do the same thing too...haha
I ride, you ride for me, my enemies your enemies
How could you not love a Thug like me?"
Sounds like homie lovin' to me. Typical or not, its still far from poetry.
And how many modern rock bands today are highly influenced by the Seattle grunge movement of bands like Nirvana, Pearl Jam and Soundgarden? They proved to be a major stepping stone in the evolution of music.
Fine, we'll go back even further. Black Sabbath. One day a bunch of college kids decided to start a band and would play music heavier than conventional music at the time. It was quickly dubbed "metal". Any metal band (and a lot of rock bands) you listen to nowadays are influenced by Black Sabbath in one way or another. Geniuses.
Now, what is 50 Cent doing? Before 50 Cent came on the scene, what did we have? The same as what we have now that 50 Cent is on the scene. 50 Cent is just copying what made other rappers successful (and using Dr. Dre to expose him) and making lots of money. Hardly a genius.
To impress Dr. Dre he dropped a few mixtapes around at a few record stores. Hardly marketting. I didn't see him independly releasing his albums and promoting them himself. I could throw together a crap song with a few of my friends, record it, drop it off at a record store and that would be that same marketting as what he used to get the attention of Dre.
Hey, maybe some big famous producer will come and produce that song, market me and make me rich!
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I still don't get this "highly popular mixtapes" from ... Out of everyone I know, only myself and one other person were actually listening to them ... and they weren't that great, either ... several dope songs, several hilarious skits (mostly dissing Ja Rule), and a bunch of filler, IMO ...
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live4speed
Not quiet. We get most songs about a month to two months after the americans depending on the artist and the popularity of the song but usually americans get evrything before us for about a month. i go to www.billboard.com to see whats being released in america so I can be playing all the latest songs before I hear every little kid singing them at which point I will have moved on.
Also we dont get mixtapes from the US unless you go to rare specialist stores. 50 cent was big in america atleast a good 2 months before they started playing in the club ub the UK.
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Jmac279
You live in canada.... We dont listen to mixtapes over in the UK neither. Its mainly a black thing.
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Jmac279
They were popular there. Prove me wrong that they werent popular. I have my hands full so im not gonan go out and show you that your wrong.
Because that is the main reason for eminem and Dr.Dre to sign him. Please dont make me go out and dig up the qoute. Eminem one day asaid on radio im really liking 50 cent what hes doing with the mixtapes and so I wanan sign him. Then several other record companies tried to sign him too.
Some of the tracks on 50 cents get rich or die trying album where originally relesed on mixtape and they were so popular that it led 50 cent to shooting videos for some of the tracks from his mixtape.
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Dr Dre jacks a lot of his melodies from existing songs. He can play some instruments though, before he did hiphop (looong ago) he was in a disco group. That was even before World class wreckin crew or NWA.
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You just said that you don't listen to mixtapes in the UK ... If people aren't listening to them, they can't be popular ...Young_Warrior
He heard some stuff he liked ... completely different from popularity ... I like a lot of stuff that isn't popular ...
Why do you talk to me like I don't have the mixtapes sitting in one of my many binders of CDs ? Like I said, he had several dope songs ... but most of it was crap ...
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They, is 50 cent more than one person? I can prove you wrong, in 1999 he had a single hit record, that was How to rob and it was a hit in the US and pretty much nowhere else, a single record. He started his debut album power of the dollar but then he got shot in 2000 and the album wasn't released, and that's 50 cent before the shooting, real popular sure.Young_Warrior
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Yeah and now carry on after 2000. That was when he really got popular.live4speed
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Jmac279
BECAUSE WE DIDNT GET THEM IN THE UK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Most people in the UK didnt even know what a mixtape was. Most people in the UK dont know what a corvette is either but that doesnt mean its not popular.
We do get them now though. Only 50 cent ones at that however. MMMM rather amusing that.
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live4speed
Yeah he was shot in 2000. Yet most people in the UK didnt hear about him until 2002.
Look at the rapper cassidy. Hes going down for double murder. Hell thats better than gettng shot yet why isnt he super famous.?
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Even in these short video clips hes showing traits of pure genius.
My dad hates him but even he has to admit that there mans a good buisness man humble and not another one of those stupid rappers.
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Even in these short video clips hes showing traits of pure genius.
My dad hates him but even he has to admit that there mans a good buisness man humble and not another one of those stupid rappers.
I dont know why this isnt working
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live4speed
Well I assumed by the way you guys talk rap music is all about shooting "n1ggahs" money hoes and respect. And cassidy is proven to be a little murderer
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...i think some here has a little crush on old 'Fiddy' 
The only person that i know of that has difficulty stringing a sentence together, but can still be considered a genius is Prof Stevie Hawkins.
50 cent has nothing of interest to say, his lyrics are unintelligent, misogynistic and largely negative in sentiment. He's a bad role-model to any 14 year old, which is probably the main demographic of his record sales. Glamourising the 'gangsta' lifestyle the way he does is hugely irresponsible and frankly old-hat.
Rap accounts for 20% of all record sales in the US - the fact that the more mainstream artists like 50 Cent are earning huge amounts of money hardly makes it the act of a genius.
The only person that i know of that has difficulty stringing a sentence together, but can still be considered a genius is Prof Stevie Hawkins.
50 cent has nothing of interest to say, his lyrics are unintelligent, misogynistic and largely negative in sentiment. He's a bad role-model to any 14 year old, which is probably the main demographic of his record sales. Glamourising the 'gangsta' lifestyle the way he does is hugely irresponsible and frankly old-hat.
Rap accounts for 20% of all record sales in the US - the fact that the more mainstream artists like 50 Cent are earning huge amounts of money hardly makes it the act of a genius.
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Wasnt there some kind of famous genius mute aswell? Oh and yes I do quite like him 
American rapper 50 Cent broke a sales record last week, by having four songs in the Top 10 of the American Billboard chart simultaneously. Only the Beatles had previously managed this, back in 1964.
Candy Shop and Disco Inferno, are both from the album The Massacre, while Hate It or Love It, and How We Do are from Game, which were at #1, #5, #6 and #8, respectively.
American rapper 50 Cent broke a sales record last week, by having four songs in the Top 10 of the American Billboard chart simultaneously. Only the Beatles had previously managed this, back in 1964.
Candy Shop and Disco Inferno, are both from the album The Massacre, while Hate It or Love It, and How We Do are from Game, which were at #1, #5, #6 and #8, respectively.
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The mind of a buisnessman....
Budden's line comes in the context of "Dumb Out," a staggering seven-minute mixtape rant. Budden is pissed that no one seems to know what label he's even on, that no plans seem to be in place to put out any of his music, that his career is maybe over after his first album sold badly. He's bitter that a guy who showed great promise but didn't sell too many albums the first time out wouldn't get a second chance, as he should be. But Budden's line takes on a larger significance with this morning's news that 50 Cent has defended George W. Bush against Kanye West's criticism, telling Contactmusic.com, "The New Orleans disaster was meant to happen. It was an act of God ... What Kanye West was saying, I don't know where that came from."
50 Cent is a smart guy, and he knows exactly why Kanye said what he said. He almost certainly knows that money was diverted from the construction of levees in New Orleans, that the toady Bush installed to run FEMA proved to be woefully incompetent. So why is 50 defending Bush against another rapper? Is he turning Republican?
Now that rap is big business, now that Jay-Z can buy shares of basketball and soccer teams and appear on the cover of Fortune, now that successful rappers are basically expected to become business moguls, doesn't it make sense that rappers would take on corporate politics as they enter the corporate world? If 50 Cent loves his money as much as Kenneth Lay does, doesn't it make sense that he'd hate paying taxes just as much? 50 may have been poor, but is that any indication that he wouldn't become Republican after getting rich? He wouldn't be the first to do so.
Or is it a publicity stunt? Eazy E once attended a Republican fundraiser luncheon, explaining that the $2500 he spent on the luncheon bought him a million dollars' worth of publicity, that he didn't even vote. With 50's movie about to open and his video game about to hit stores, he's in the midst of a huge publicity push? Why wouldn't he say something to get the exurban white public on his side? If it makes him money, why should he give a ****?
Budden's line comes in the context of "Dumb Out," a staggering seven-minute mixtape rant. Budden is pissed that no one seems to know what label he's even on, that no plans seem to be in place to put out any of his music, that his career is maybe over after his first album sold badly. He's bitter that a guy who showed great promise but didn't sell too many albums the first time out wouldn't get a second chance, as he should be. But Budden's line takes on a larger significance with this morning's news that 50 Cent has defended George W. Bush against Kanye West's criticism, telling Contactmusic.com, "The New Orleans disaster was meant to happen. It was an act of God ... What Kanye West was saying, I don't know where that came from."
50 Cent is a smart guy, and he knows exactly why Kanye said what he said. He almost certainly knows that money was diverted from the construction of levees in New Orleans, that the toady Bush installed to run FEMA proved to be woefully incompetent. So why is 50 defending Bush against another rapper? Is he turning Republican?
Now that rap is big business, now that Jay-Z can buy shares of basketball and soccer teams and appear on the cover of Fortune, now that successful rappers are basically expected to become business moguls, doesn't it make sense that rappers would take on corporate politics as they enter the corporate world? If 50 Cent loves his money as much as Kenneth Lay does, doesn't it make sense that he'd hate paying taxes just as much? 50 may have been poor, but is that any indication that he wouldn't become Republican after getting rich? He wouldn't be the first to do so.
Or is it a publicity stunt? Eazy E once attended a Republican fundraiser luncheon, explaining that the $2500 he spent on the luncheon bought him a million dollars' worth of publicity, that he didn't even vote. With 50's movie about to open and his video game about to hit stores, he's in the midst of a huge publicity push? Why wouldn't he say something to get the exurban white public on his side? If it makes him money, why should he give a ****?
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