F1CE Hot Lap Series- (Closed)

[fishfash]

Dude, surely a wheel would help you no end, especially around long corners where you have to make subtle adjustments, like Massenet.

Check out this vid, the guy is clearly using a steering wheel and he's doing something funny with the gears, he carries soooo much speed into Massenet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWqvse1nU-c

Yep probably but I haven't mastered the wheel yet This guy in the vid gear shifts down like 3 or 4 gears all at once !!!

 

[Gipfeli]

Obviously I cant count your time, it must be posted before the deadline, sorry.

I will have next weeks up in a few hours, take note of the deadline, everyone.

awww, no kiddding man... i live in the east coast...i was watching the olympics till late dude and woke up for this... come on

 

[GT4 genius]

awww, no kiddding man... i live in the east coast...i was watching the olympics till late dude and woke up for this... come on

I dont know about bending the rules for special cases. I would normally but seeing as though I didnt for Shaggy Alonso I cant really for you, sorry man. And it wouldnt be fair on Zed either as he would drop a place, I cant really count it, sorry, really I am but you have to see where I'm coming from. I hope you will still take part in the future races. 👍

BTW, next race will be a Renault in France.

 

[Gipfeli]

I dont know about bending the rules for special cases. I would normally but seeing as though I didnt for Shaggy Alonso I cant really for you, sorry man. And it wouldnt be fair on Zed either as he would drop a place, I cant really count it, sorry, really I am but you have to see where I'm coming from. I hope you will still take part in the future races. 👍

BTW, next race will be a Renault in France.

no big deal man... olympics are over, i'll be there 👍

my laps video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_WgldsGmeQ

 

[zed300]

Nice work fishy smashed us all with that overall time. Good last sector too Shaggy, you did well to take a sector off such a fast lap. O.k.France eh, not my favourite track ever but we shall see. I know I'm not troubling the rest of you but I'm enjoying the comp immensely.this is a great way to push your own limits with almost no pressure. Once again great work to all.

 

[Shaggy Alonso]

Nice work fishy smashed us all with that overall time. Good last sector too Shaggy, you did well to take a sector off such a fast lap. O.k.France eh, not my favourite track ever but we shall see. I know I'm not troubling the rest of you but I'm enjoying the comp immensely.this is a great way to push your own limits with almost no pressure. Once again great work to all.

Indeed, I think literally every time in the Unofficial Lap Records thread will be broken going by how competitive this tournament is. The records are going to start tumbling.

The competition is really good fun I agree, I know I can't win it, especially after missing the first 2 rounds (effectively 3 rounds) so I hope to just overhaul Icelt, he's my main target, cause he's fast and he's got a head start on me

 

[GT4 genius]

Indeed, I think literally every time in the Unofficial Lap Records thread will be broken going by how competitive this tournament is. The records are going to start tumbling.

The competition is really good fun I agree, I know I can't win it, especially after missing the first 2 rounds (effectively 3 rounds) so I hope to just overhaul Icelt, he's my main target, cause he's fast and he's got a head start on me

Well there is still a long long way to go 16 races (yes 16, you all better have Jerez unlocked before the end!), you have almost as good a chance as everyone.

If everyone is ok with it, tonight I'm going to use all the results from this in the PB laps thread. If you dont want any of your times included for whatever reason tell me now.

 

[zed300]

What do I need to do to unlock Jerez? Win a championship?
Also do lap times differ between time trial/weekend race ?

 

[zed300]

RE: Shaggy I reckon there's enough races to be a title contender especially seeing your times

 

[Shaggy Alonso]

What do I need to do to unlock Jerez? Win a championship?
Also do lap times differ between time trial/weekend race ?

I think you need to do several things to unlock it. The way to be certain is to win a WDC on hard mode, and to set gold laps in every track in time trial.

Lap times shouldn't differ, but sometimes on a race weekend you can get a tow and set a time that you wouldn't be able to equal otherwise, as I have done at Monza. There's nothing illegitimate about it really though, if its recognised in the game records. The only way to set an illegitimate time is if you take a penalty and you still count the time as a proper lap.

One thing that miffs me a bit though is when people set stability control to 3. It means you can basicly cut corners without spinning or being penalised. All the lap records I see on youtube have it in online mode, with stability control set to 3, which is almsot cheating IMO. I use just about every other driver aid so I'm not trying to get on my high horse, but stability control lvl 3 is too much of an advantage IMO.

 

[icelt]

The competition is really good fun I agree, I know I can't win it, especially after missing the first 2 rounds (effectively 3 rounds) so I hope to just overhaul Icelt, he's my main target, cause he's fast and he's got a head start on me

Boy that head start is about my only hope I'm thinking

And someone's gotta kick this one off so it might as well be me (yes, I don't care much for poker):

1:11.894, 24.203/25.630/22.061, icelt

A fair effort I think, but what sucks is that my best S1 time was like a 23.59 but I could never repeat that performance combined with a good S2 & S3 .

 

[Shaggy Alonso]

Boy that head start is about my only hope I'm thinking

And someone's gotta kick this one off so it might as well be me (yes, I don't care much for poker):

1:11.894, 24.203/25.630/22.061, icelt

A fair effort I think, but what sucks is that my best S1 time was like a 23.59 but I could never repeat that performance combined with a good S2 & S3 .

If you run with a relatively low downforce set up you will get a consistently fast first sector but the other two tend to suffer.
Was that the reason? I've never had a first sector that quick, even with a tow, dunno how you managed that. Unless I wonder if you were to try it out with 100% downforce, could you take the whole first sector flat? I might try that just for a laugh, who knows it could translate into a faster lap 💡

 

[icelt]

If you run with a relatively low downforce set up you will get a consistently fast first sector but the other two tend to suffer.
Was that the reason? I've never had a first sector that quick, even with a tow, dunno how you managed that. Unless I wonder if you were to try it out with 100% downforce, could you take the whole first sector flat? I might try that just for a laugh, who knows it could translate into a faster lap 💡

Exactly. 25%/30% F/R and on that best S1 time I'm pretty certain I quickly hit 6th on the exit and was in 7th a good 2 seconds faster than usual. Probably should try going higher on wing to see what happens.

 

[Shaggy Alonso]

Exactly. 25%/30% F/R and on that best S1 time I'm pretty certain I quickly hit 6th on the exit and was in 7th a good 2 seconds faster than usual. Probably should try going higher on wing to see what happens.

Well I tried it with 100% downforce and you still can't take the first sector flat anyway, and the other 2 sectors suffer too. The fastest I could make was in the mid 1:12's with that set up.

Playing with gear ratio's can give you an edge as well.

 

[icelt]

This time I upped to 50's and managed to shave a couple tenths off, still not certain if it had more to do with setup or just driving a cleaner overall lap:

1:11.695, 24.053/25.763/21.879, icelt

 

[Shaggy Alonso]

This time I upped to 50's and managed to shave a couple tenths off, still not certain if it had more to do with setup or just driving a cleaner overall lap:

1:11.695, 24.053/25.763/21.879, icelt

The set up probably just enabled you to hook up a good overall lap. What you suffer in straight line speed loss is probably negated by the fact that you can get on the throttle earlier.

 

[GT4 genius]

Can only get a high 1.11 so far. But I think if I can hit on the right set up and take a few laps when I'm not falling asleep then i should be able to bring that down a fair bit, optimistically maybe a 1.10.9.

 

[Shaggy Alonso]

Here's a suggestion. I think that being awarded double points for taking part in the first race thing is rather unfair. Why don't you just make it that everyone gets double points for the first race they take part in? 💡

 

[Shaggy Alonso]

Grrr, very very annoying. Just did a lap and it isn't being recognised by the in game lap records. I took photos of the in session times, sectors and all. If I somehow come out on top, would this evidence suffice, Genius?

 

[zed300]

Just have to do, dunno if I'll get a chance to improve it.Did enough laps to tell me I probably going to be the slowest again, anyway here it is 1.12.663 23.988/26.346/22.329.....Oh and I kind think that idea of your first race in is double points Shaggy is a fair thing, but of course I would.

 

[GT4 genius]

Grrr, very very annoying. Just did a lap and it isn't being recognised by the in game lap records. I took photos of the in session times, sectors and all. If I somehow come out on top, would this evidence suffice, Genius?

A picture of the time sheet during the session would suffice, however I do want to point out that this is only for fun. You or anyone else has nothing to gain by cheating, yes you might be at the top of the table, but it would mean nothing to you, and ofcourse there are no prizes!

As for the points system, I do like the idea you came up with. However, this is the bad bit, a lot of people have tried to set up competitions for F1CE and many have failed due to a lack of interest from the start, but because a good few people entered week 1 I could continue this, and it now has grown rather successfully, IMO . So that is my reason for the extra points as a thank you to those that entered and did not let this thread fall to the bottom of the F1CE section like many others have.

However, if everyone taking part this week does agree that it would be fair and acceptable to allow double points to everyone on their first week then yes I will change it.

PS: S.Alonso, stop double posting or you will have a mod giving out to you! Use the edit button if you have more to say before someone else posts. 👍

 

[Shaggy Alonso]

A picture of the time sheet during the session would suffice, however I do want to point out that this is only for fun. You or anyone else has nothing to gain by cheating, yes you might be at the top of the table, but it would mean nothing to you, and ofcourse there are no prizes!

As for the points system, I do like the idea you came up with. However, this is the bad bit, a lot of people have tried to set up competitions for F1CE and many have failed due to a lack of interest from the start, but because a good few people entered week 1 I could continue this, and it now has grown rather successfully, IMO . So that is my reason for the extra points as a thank you to those that entered and did not let this thread fall to the bottom of the F1CE section like many others have.

However, if everyone taking part this week does agree that it would be fair and acceptable to allow double points to everyone on their first week then yes I will change it.

PS: S.Alonso, stop double posting or you will have a mod giving out to you! Use the edit button if you have more to say before someone else posts. 👍

Yeah, of course I don't want to take the competition too seriously, and I know that my times are legit, I just wanna be able to prove it if requested. Besides, it's good craic!

Well, I'll cast my vote for a 'yes' to the first race double points rule. The way I look at it, no one loses any points but it helps even it up slightly for the johny come latelys.

Sorry I'll try to bear that in mind in my posts. Is it cos you have to check them all or something?

 

[GT4 genius]

Yeah, of course I don't want to take the competition too seriously, and I know that my times are legit, I just wanna be able to prove it if requested. Besides, it's good craic!

Well, I'll cast my vote for a 'yes' to the first race double points rule. The way I look at it, no one loses any points but it helps even it up slightly for the johny come latelys.

Sorry I'll try to bear that in mind in my posts. Is it cos you have to check them all or something?

I think the double post rule is so people dont do it too often. The moderators think people are just bumping the thread or clogging up the forum with posts, not 100% sure of the reason but they do frown on it sevrely, and depending on which mod sees it, they can be rather rude or blunt with there anger, to say the least. All the rules of the forum are in the AUP, there basic things to insure everyone and the forum is respected, such as no aggresive arguing, try to use proper grammer not text language, just a few things like that.

 

[Alireza Sabbagh]

Here goes

1:10:504 23.588, 25.507,21.409

With a bit more practice maybe a 1:10.1 or 2 can be possible but I want a 1:09 !!!!!
I believe the whole point of this thread was not boasting about driving/setup skills but to discuss the setup in a little more detail.
For instance if somebody could teach me how not to get thrown around/spin when attacking a curb I will definately improve, I think we can each spend 1 hour every 2-3 days discussing last races setup so people understand better and move forward instead of thinking that they cant do it and there are people who will blow them away each race.
We must share to move forward and moving forward is better incentive to try for the next race.

Edit: I say yes to Shaggy alonso's proposal if asked. Just to have more competition and incentive
Best Regards
Alireza

 

[zed300]

I think your on to something there Alireza,that sounds like a great idea for everyone to involve themselves in. Maybe we all show set-ups after each race and some explaination of why we came to those settings???

I like it a lot. So far I've been competitive in 1 or 2 sectors (around 1/2 a second off anyway)and not all 3, and I don't understand why.This idea will certainly give me something to think about whist setting-up the next car /track.

 

[Alireza Sabbagh]

Thanks Zed,
This thread starting a little friendlier but now we have all started the business of not posting laptimes until the very end.
Setups are dependent even to if you use a controller or a steering wheel.
But the art is to correct problems when you feel them on track.
So discussing them will give a much much better feel.
I will be happy to respond to any problems we may have and also to getting solutions for my own problems which will make ma a much faster driver.

P.S Is the car faster if you pkay online ???
I have seen some incredible laptimes on youtube and I just cant believe them !!!!

Best regardS
Alireza

 

[Shaggy Alonso]

Here goes

1:10:504 23.588, 25.507,21.409

With a bit more practice maybe a 1:10.1 or 2 can be possible but I want a 1:09 !!!!!
I believe the whole point of this thread was not boasting about driving/setup skills but to discuss the setup in a little more detail.
For instance if somebody could teach me how not to get thrown around/spin when attacking a curb I will definately improve, I think we can each spend 1 hour every 2-3 days discussing last races setup so people understand better and move forward instead of thinking that they cant do it and there are people who will blow them away each race.
We must share to move forward and moving forward is better incentive to try for the next race.

Edit: I say yes to Shaggy alonso's proposal if asked. Just to have more competition and incentive
Best Regards
Alireza

Dunno if this is much of a secret or not but one way of helping that out is to soften the suspension. I notice everyone seems to crank their suspension right up to 20 on nearly every track because it produces probably the fastest set up. But if you have to ride kerbs, then just soften it a little and see if that helps. That also helps with regards to oversteering when you go over cambers. It's a way of rreducing the chance of spinning without sacrificing the cornering ability you get elsewhere with your camber set up.

Of course the other way to deal with it is just put stability control to 3 and it's virtually impossible to spin even if you try 💡

My time:

1:10.144, 23.668/25.027/21.449, Shaggy Alonso

I await with baited breath for what fishfash can do

 

[Alireza Sabbagh]

Its really bad sitting in your office and getting bashed like that, but well done shaggy.
Thats a great second sector, while im faster thanyou in the other 2,
I cant better my time as im in my office drinking coffee. But Im sure I can.
Anyway kudos to u and even if I dont win Ill post my 1:09 time with proof later.

P.S I wiish the time could be Sundays at 7 Pm GMT so I could get home and do 1 hour of practice.

Best REgards
Alireza

 

[GT4 genius]

Seeing as though you what to give help! I'm having some trouble here, my driving isnt the best today, I'm a little more than just tired but still I'm way off your pace, the best I can manage is a mid to high 1.11.

And yes for next week I will change the time.

 

[zed300]

It's good to have feed back,others who might be interested in joining ,not to be intimidated by just seeing lap times posted.
Anyway Iam putting up my Magny Cours setup maybe someones got an idea why my second sectors soooo slow.

tyres -soft front wing-30
pressure-front-22 rear wing-34
pressure- rear-15 front suspension-17 front camber-2.5 toe-0.015
traction control-70% rear suspension-12 rear camber-1.6
gear box-gear 1 20.8 gear2 16.7 gear3 12.6 gear4 10.3 gear5 8.7 gear6 7.4 gear7 6.6 brakes 55:45 all help turned off manual shift with DFP steering wheel

thanks Jeff