F1CE Hot Lap Series- (Closed)

[GT4 genius]

15 mins left, just to let everyone know.

Edit: Times up, I got a 1.11.544, and I'll post sectors in a while. Will also sort out everything on the 1st post. Congrats to S.Alonso.

1.11.544, 24.168/25.547/21.829, GT4genius

Edit 2: Ok the table is updated, i'll update the points once icelt agrees to the new bonus points system. I'm sure he will, begrudgingly, if he doesnt reply before 9pm tonight I'll use the new system.

Slightly disappointed by the number of people this week and as Alireza said this should be more friendly so I would like to see people discuss this weeks race before starting next weeks.

So to begin, I didnt do too well kind of disappointed with my performance my setup was around 30% front and rear wing and balanced gears, 7th just a notch longer. Suspension around 16-17 ride height 15 and normal other stuff apart from my unusually high camber, -3.0!

 

[icelt]

Edit 2: Ok the table is updated, i'll update the points once icelt agrees to the new bonus points system. I'm sure he will, begrudgingly, if he doesnt reply before 9pm tonight I'll use the new system.

I'm cool with the modified proposal. Although this is the last time I'll see things from atop the podium

 

[GT4 genius]

I'm cool with the modified proposal. Although this is the last time I'll see things from atop the podium

Good thanks, I'll update it all now. 👍 This is going to be complicated, dont be annoyed if I mess it up, just politely point it out.

Edit: All updated, look for mistakes.

 

[zed300]

Well done to Shaggy,👍👍👍 superfast lap,especially middle sector, I tried so hard to get more time there, but the best I could manage was a 26 .0**had a 23.7**in the first and a 22.0**in the last but I couldn't string it all together.Hard to find time to practice that much too.

And yes for next week I will change the time.

As for the closing time no problem as it does not affect me here in Aus.

thanks Jeff

 

[GT4 genius]

Well done to Shaggy,👍👍👍 superfast lap,especially middle sector, I tried so hard to get more time there, but the best I could manage was a 26 .0**had a 23.7**in the first and a 22.0**in the last but I couldn't string it all together.Hard to find time to practice that much too.
As for the closing time no problem as it does not affect me here in Aus.

thanks Jeff

How'd you get a 23 in the first sector, the best I could manage was the 24.1. I have the time changed to 9 pm GMT+1 now, so plenty of time this week.

 

[Shaggy Alonso]

Its really bad sitting in your office and getting bashed like that, but well done shaggy.
Thats a great second sector, while im faster thanyou in the other 2,
I cant better my time as im in my office drinking coffee. But Im sure I can.
Anyway kudos to u and even if I dont win Ill post my 1:09 time with proof later.

P.S I wiish the time could be Sundays at 7 Pm GMT so I could get home and do 1 hour of practice.

Best REgards
Alireza

Indeed, I was in work from 2:30 til 11 so I didn't get much chance to try and improve, but I think that was just about the fastest lap i'll ever do at Magny Cours.

Well done to Shaggy,👍👍👍 superfast lap,especially middle sector, I tried so hard to get more time there, but the best I could manage was a 26 .0**had a 23.7**in the first and a 22.0**in the last but I couldn't string it all together.Hard to find time to practice that much too.
As for the closing time no problem as it does not affect me here in Aus.

thanks Jeff

I think given that everyone was setting sector times comparable to mine other than the middle sector suggests that I must be doing something rather different to the rest of you, not set up wise but probably just the actual driving. I was thinking about how I was gaining so much time on everyone in the middle sector, as it doesn't have any really difficult, knife edgy corners, unlike turn three (Estoril) or the second chicane which is at the start of the third sector (Imola) which are both very hard to get consistently right. Then I realised, I might be making time up at the first chicane, turn 6 and 7 (Nurburgring chicane). I take this chicane flat. With enough front camber you can point the car in and out really quickly. You ride the edge of the first kerb on the right and bolt over the 2nd kerb on your left. It's fairly safe to do this in a race situation as it's got such a large run off area as well. You should also take a slightly wider entry to turn 8 (almost a hairpin) in order to get on the throttle earlier without running out of track, this is important as you build up speed til you hit 7th gear just before the Imola chicane.

How'd you get a 23 in the first sector, the best I could manage was the 24.1.

In the first sector you should break slightly late for your turn in to Estoril, shifting down 2 gears, then briefly get back on the throttle, break once more, down 1 gear and then get back on the throttle again and if you have enough down force you should easily be able to take the rest of the corner flat. I started off with downforce of about 35% front, 40% rear but after practising it I was able to take the corner at speed with 25% front and 29% rear. This helps your top speed in the run down to the Adelaide hairpin. Once you're out of the Estoril corner just stay welded to the racing line. Don't ask me why, but I noticed that I picked up more speed by staying on the line rather than trying to take the shortest route i.e. meeting the apex at the mini turn 4, Golf.

That said, I'm not the person to ask about sector one as both Alireza and icelt have set faster times there.

I'll post my set up and photos tomorrow, I'm only just out of work and I'm pretty knackered now. Delighted to have won this round though, can't wait for Malaysia where I think I'm gonna be left for dead this time!

 

[GT4 genius]

In the first sector you should break slightly late for your turn in to Estoril, shifting down 2 gears, then briefly get back on the throttle, break once more, down 1 gear and then get back on the throttle again and if you have enough down force you should easily be able to take the rest of the corner flat. I started off with downforce of about 35% front, 40% rear but after practising it I was able to take the corner at speed with 25% front and 29% rear. This helps your top speed in the run down to the Adelaide hairpin. Once you're out of the Estoril corner just stay welded to the racing line. Don't ask me why, but I noticed that I picked up more speed by staying on the line rather than trying to take the shortest route i.e. meeting the apex at the mini turn 4, Golf.

You use manual? Thats were you are making a lot of time, because I do everything similar to the way you explained. I should of had more practice just didnt have the time this week.

So I started early for the next one, only 3 or 4 laps but I managed a 1.30.9 or around that. I think the bench mark will be around the mid to low 1.29 mark, but this is a very long circuit with many corners it will be difficult to have an absolutely flawless lap.

 

[zed300]

With my setup I was able to hit the start/finish line changing into 5th,hitting 7th as I enter turn 1,lifting slightly at turn 2, brake moderately, change down to 6th, open the steering slightly, down to 5th,still on the brakes, stay on the outside apex,turn back in hard and back on the throttle full.Braking hard at 105m(or there about)shifting quickly down to third ,turn in as late as possible shift down to second at the apex back on the throttle about 75%, so as not to run to wide(although there seems to be plenty of grip out there,I figured it was taking longer as I used more road).Up to 6th almost full revs, lift slightly(seems this the major loss in time)stay about middle right of track down to 4th braking hard, ease of brake and down to 3rd.Back up to 7th about 2/3 though the gear brake hard and turn in when the wall on the right runs out down to 5th 1/2 throttle at inside apex stay in 5th at full throttle until ripple strip onthe left ,turn in and down to 3rd,hit inside apez and back on the throttle full,upto 6th ,hit brakes about 90m turn in down to 4th hit inside apex down to 3rd,1/2 throttle slightly open steering into 4th turn staight line chicane(hopefully)hit 5th as I cross the line.

I haven't named the corners (a bit lazy I know) but this maybe some insight into what I'm doing wrong. Of course this only a rough estimate of what I'm doing as it's difficult to know exactly when I'm doing it.(I could record myself I guess -but this is still for fun, don't want to get too serious ) lol

Looking forward to Malaysia as I have quick in previous F1 games (F1 05)
that not putting the pressure on myself is it

 

[Alireza Sabbagh]

Wow,
Dear Zed, You are braking too early in 2 points,
1: for adelaide I brake at 90 meters
2: for the second to last corner I brake at 60 meters

BesT Regards
Alireza

 

[Shaggy Alonso]

You use manual? Thats were you are making a lot of time, because I do everything similar to the way you explained. I should of had more practice just didnt have the time this week.

So I started early for the next one, only 3 or 4 laps but I managed a 1.30.9 or around that. I think the bench mark will be around the mid to low 1.29 mark, but this is a very long circuit with many corners it will be difficult to have an absolutely flawless lap.

No i use automatic gears but you get to know which gear you the computer will put you in depending on how much you brake. It helps to know this to have a more consistent lap. You may have just been running too much wing in the first sector? I just used the default gear ratio, whch i discovered got you more speed than the balanced one this time.

Indeed, it's probably the hardest circuit to get a good set up on along with Istanbul and Interlagos. Can't see myself bothering the leaders for this one but I'll aim for a 1:29 of some sort.

With my setup I was able to hit the start/finish line changing into 5th,hitting 7th as I enter turn 1,lifting slightly at turn 2, brake moderately, change down to 6th, open the steering slightly, down to 5th,still on the brakes, stay on the outside apex,turn back in hard and back on the throttle full.Braking hard at 105m(or there about)shifting quickly down to third ,turn in as late as possible shift down to second at the apex back on the throttle about 75%, so as not to run to wide(although there seems to be plenty of grip out there,I figured it was taking longer as I used more road).Up to 6th almost full revs, lift slightly(seems this the major loss in time)stay about middle right of track down to 4th braking hard, ease of brake and down to 3rd.Back up to 7th about 2/3 though the gear brake hard and turn in when the wall on the right runs out down to 5th 1/2 throttle at inside apex stay in 5th at full throttle until ripple strip onthe left ,turn in and down to 3rd,hit inside apez and back on the throttle full,upto 6th ,hit brakes about 90m turn in down to 4th hit inside apex down to 3rd,1/2 throttle slightly open steering into 4th turn staight line chicane(hopefully)hit 5th as I cross the line.

I haven't named the corners (a bit lazy I know) but this maybe some insight into what I'm doing wrong. Of course this only a rough estimate of what I'm doing as it's difficult to know exactly when I'm doing it.(I could record myself I guess -but this is still for fun, don't want to get too serious ) lol

Looking forward to Malaysia as I have quick in previous F1 games (F1 05)
that not putting the pressure on myself is it

Yeah, you're braking too early for Adelaide, you should brake late for it but aim for the apex and be right down in 1st gear and then immediately back on the throttle so you should be in 7th gear by the time the Nurburgring chicane hits you.

Here's the pics of my hotlap at Magny Cours, again sorry about the shoddy quality, it was done on my crappy 2.0 mega pixel camera on my mobile phone:





My set up to achieve this lap was as follows:

Tyre compound

Soft (obviously!)

Tyre pressure:

Front 50 PSI (max)
Rear 40 PSI (max)

Downforce:

Front 30%
Rear 34%

Suspension

Front 18
Rear 18

Camber

Front 3.0
Rear 2.5

Toe in/out

0.00

Ride height

19 MM

Roll-anti roll

(default settings)

Gear Ratio

Custom (default settings)




Well, I thought i'd get the ball rolling this time and show my hand. I doubt it will matter too much as I would appear to suck at this circuit compared to Magny Cours. This is the best I can manage:

Malaysia-Honda
1:30.414, 22.329/29.265/38.820, Shaggy Alonso

 

[GT4 genius]

Wow,
Dear Zed, You are braking too early in 2 points,
1: for adelaide I brake at 90 meters
2: for the second to last corner I brake at 60 meters

BesT Regards
Alireza

You are all so accurate with your braking, I just brake when I feel like it ! I dont use the bords along the side as you should brake in different places depending on your setup, your car condition, your speed your position on the road, weather there is a car in front of you or behind you etc etc, so yes all my braking is probably within 1-2metres of the norm every time but I never use exact distances like that. I like to try and feel the car and react to the surroundings more so then driving identical laps all the time. Maybe thats why I'm doing well in the championship we are having but not so good in this fastest lap game!

 

[zed300]

Yeah, you're braking too early for Adelaide, you should brake late for it but aim for the apex and be right down in 1st gear and then immediately back on the throttle so you should be in 7th gear by the time the Nurburgring chicane hits you.

Yer ok,I am known to brake early,I like to be on the throttle and hold apex speed, maybe too early here(Adelaide).1st gear but, I was almost taking it in 3rd, ok I wasn't getting up to 7th into Nurbrgring chicane, but I guess I didn't feel I could go flat anyway, even in 6th.No excuses though,you've got the time on the board ,👍:tup:I just have to adjust my driving style to suit some corners if I want to keep up.

That Malaysia is a big wide circuit eh!! Had a good stint at yesterday ,and I happy with my progress. Lots of different setups,turn2 is a slippery little sucker,anyway here is my initial(I hope )attempt 1.30.634 22.429/29.645/38.560 zed300

Jeff

 

[Alireza Sabbagh]

OK,
As promised before and even though it doesnt count !!!!

1:09.722 23.768,24.945,21.009 Alireza Sabbagh

I just wanted to prove to myself that it can be done as I didnt practice enough for the magny Cours Race.

I had 22/ 30 Front and rear PSI
70% Traction control
40 / 38 F/R wings
toe -0.010 (first time i used negative toe (was really stable under braking)
Gear Ratios
16.5-13.3-11.2-9.6-8.5-7.7-6.9

Brakes 61/39

suspension 15/17 f/r

Best Regards
Alireza

 

[GT4 genius]

OK,
As promised before and even though it doesnt count !!!!

1:09.722 23.768,24.945,21.009 Alireza Sabbagh

I just wanted to prove to myself that it can be done as I didnt practice enough for the magny Cours Race.

I had 22/ 30 Front and rear PSI
70% Traction control
40 / 38 F/R wings
toe -0.010 (first time i used negative toe (was really stable under braking)
Gear Ratios
16.5-13.3-11.2-9.6-8.5-7.7-6.9

Brakes 61/39

suspension 15/17 f/r

Best Regards
Alireza

WOW ! Well it might not get you any points, but it will get you kudos at the top of the PB thread at Magny Cours. I'll update all that tonight.

And I just got a:
1.30.494, 22.808/29.145/38.541, GT4genius

 

[zed300]

:tuputstanding lap Alireza at Magny Cours, yep that's what it is that makes the good laps, time on the track.Well done.:tup:That exactly what I've been doing at Sepang-where are you(Shaggy &GT4)getting the low 29's from.Fast stuff guys.I've managed to improve a tiny bit and I notice now it's a tied time.


1'30'414 22'289/29'645/38'480 zed300


Still plenty of days left and still some time left on the track too LOL

Chat soon,
Jeff

 

[Alireza Sabbagh]

hiya just back from visiting my family,

1:29.835 22.309/29.545/37.981 Alireza Sabbagh

although there is at least 7 tenths in this setup in the first 2 sectors !!!!

 

[GT4 genius]

Great time Alireza. Remember everyone this doesnt close until 9 tonight, so sit back and enjoy a wet Belgium GP.

Updated the table. Two identical laps and three people with 30.4s. I put Zed ahead of S.Alonso because he had 2 faster sectors. I did a 30.2 but dont have all the times, but I hope to go back on later and get into the 29s.

 

[zed300]

Hey guys,hope you all had a good weekend. Looks pretty tight this week at Sepang, would be a good race for us all I reckon.I know there is more time left and I think I can get a bit more out sectors 1and3 but it getting late here (nearly 11pm) and the Belguim Grand Prix will be on soon so this might be my final effort pleasedto break into the 1'29's .

1.29.994 22.189/29.365/38.440 zed300


had a22.089 in the 1st and a38.141 in the 3rd but couldn't string a lap with that pace ....oh well

 

[Alireza Sabbagh]

ok i know it will be beaten but

1:28.915 22.409/28.645/37.861 Alireza Sabbagh

now as you can see , in this lap i did 51.054 for the first 2 sectors i have to admit that a 50.514 is possible so technically with no mistakes and a good run a 1:28.4 should be possible. (all of it in sector 1 !!!!!!)

although i was really struggling to get a decent setup !!!
best regards
Alireza

 

[GT4 genius]

I had another go, all I could get was;
1.29.875, 21.909/29.525/38.441, GT4genius
Sadly no where near Alireza, but atleast I got 1 'blue' sector!

 

[zed300]

Well that was a little disappointing, only 4 of us entering this week. I thought this track may display more interest, as it is a high average speed circuit,an exciting modern layout with blind apexes and highspeed turns and both heavy and medium braking .

Top effort to you once againAlirezatoo good mate very quick.I will place my settings later.

 

[icelt]

Yeah I wish I could have made it but I just got back from vacation and just couldn't find time to play. Oh well.

 

[Biggles]

Well that was a little disappointing, only 4 of us entering this week

Sorry I'm not participating, but the reason I like F1CE is because of the variety offered by the actual racing - plugging away trying to lower my lap times makes me crazy after a certain point!

Actually, at the minute I'm working on Ferrari Challenge. Any of you guys tried it?

 

[GT4 genius]

Ok everything is updated. Notice the time change for next week, I wont be around to close this next Sunday so it has to be Saturday.
Congratulations to Alireza, and S.Alonso has moved to a podium position for the first time. Thanks to everyone who took part.

 

[Shaggy Alonso]

I expect a return to form for Monza

 

[Alireza Sabbagh]

Nice to hear shaggy,

Lets see who can enter the 1:18 Bracket in Monza !!!!!
Im already a 1:19:0 from previous escapades, but this series has undoubtedly made me 0.5 - 1 second faster !!!!!

Best Regards
Alireza

 

[Shaggy Alonso]

Can I make a proposal that we have this weeks monza set in time trial only? The slipstream aspect at this track makes any time set in a race weekend mode rather dubious IMO. Plus time trial mode always remembers the times you set unlike the race weekend for some reason.

 

[zed300]

The Italian stallion at home, sounds good.I am yet to drive the Ferrari, so it will be a bit of a thrill.

Sadly no where near Alireza, but atleast I got 1 'blue' sector!

Thought I might get a sector at Sepang, not to worry, I enjoyed being competitive for the first time,I think I might be getting used to the game (a bit ).
Fair call on time trial too Shaggy,oh and not to single out you in particular,but it was a good feeling not to come last for once...lol...it's all good ...

 

[Shaggy Alonso]

The Italian stallion at home, sounds good.I am yet to drive the Ferrari, so it will be a bit of a thrill.
Thought I might get a sector at Sepang, not to worry, I enjoyed being competitive for the first time,I think I might be getting used to the game (a bit ).
Fair call on time trial too Shaggy,oh and not to single out you in particular,but it was a good feeling not to come last for once...lol...it's all good ...

Haha no don't be daft, you did a great lap and far outpaced me. Don't understand where I was losing so much speed, I wouldn't mind seeing your set up to see how all you guys avoided the oversteer on turn 2. I had to crank up the rear downforce to compensate for this and I could never get enough camber on without it spinning like a top.

Well, i've decided that Ascari is officially the best corner (a chicane) in this game. It's far more difficult than turn 8 at Istanbul but just as fast. It's fun to begin with, but when you take just the right line through it and hook up all the apexes it's an incredible feeling, the speed is insane, like threading the eye of a needle at 180 mph.

Right, gotta get this going, here's one I made earlier:

Monza - Ferrari
1:19.700, 23.408/27.246/29.046, Shaggy Alonso

 

[Alireza Sabbagh]

Shaggy;

I also had the same problem for turn 2,
I had to compensate not with the setup but with the driving style.
I learnt that by braking while on the gas and turning in at the same time and also controlling the oversteer ( I also never use the highest preset for not spinning) by appllying opposite lock I was able to get a 21.8 , but my fastest lap was done on a 22.4 first sector.

Best Regards
Alireza