Fanatec CSW/CSR Elite Modders Thread *UPDATE February 2014*
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lol
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- Eric_J2358
Oh, but you have production going on, I'm only doing mostly repairs. Only a few projects from new here and there. I have been doing some hot air work recently, RXX gave me a suggestion to make some nozzles for my Milwaukee heat gun to try it out and it works great, that hot air actually works really nice and easy.
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- mrbasherman
Yep, that's a pretty common thing. A lot of people use cheap heat guns for quick and dirty rework stuff. However, that Milwaukee is nice though as it is adjustable, something most don't have.
Anyhow, I didn't mean to seem condescending on the soldering iron tip stuff. MANY people just toss the thing in the holder when done and then wonder why they can't solder well with their $100+ iron... Well, you treated it like crap, what do you expect?
Anyhow, I didn't mean to seem condescending on the soldering iron tip stuff. MANY people just toss the thing in the holder when done and then wonder why they can't solder well with their $100+ iron... Well, you treated it like crap, what do you expect?
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- Eric_J2358
Yup, I saw a guy on an electronics forum who bitched up a storm about his new soldering iron when he couldn't solder with it and the tip wouldn't tin. Ended up returning the "defective" iron. Well he finally posted a video that showed his attempt and the tip looked like a piece of coal. Never tinned it immediately after it heated up the first time and by the time he tried it was already oxidized to hell.
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I am assuming that you will ultimately settle on a drag sweet spot once you have tested your mutant machine to death. I suppose it is somewhat dependent on what you wrote about previously in regards to immersion vs lap times, but I would personally look for a point where the effects that hinder the suspension of disbelief are largely covered.
Also: hehe, MissJoan....
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Yes the T500 is lower than a CSW/Elite. In the chart below, the CSW and T500 friction torques were taken from a review, while mine was measured on my modified CSR-Elite.
Huge difference, eh? Both of the stock wheels have too much drag to fully exploit their other virtues. Or to permit maximal car control. With mods, I wound up at 1/5 the drag of a T500 and 1/7 of a stock CSW/Elite. And no the T500 cannot be modded to as low as what I did, since it already uses lo-drag belts.
That's awesome, well done!!!! 👍
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Awesome graph Racer,👍
What might be helpful for the mass, (like me), would be a recap of what gets someone wheel from 0.45 to 0.07 (the name is Bond) with what is most efficient at lowering the drag.
You have a great point when you mention that not only is the wheel better, more responsive, it is also less demanding on the motor, so better reliability as well. All good.
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Thank you for sharing, I realize that a lot of it is in the thread and that since it came from your mind it looks perfectly clear through your eyes, and it might be clear to most.
I have to admit that I am sometime, although very interested, challenged in following what you are trying to explain.
I will keep on reading, keep up the good work.👍
I have to admit that I am sometime, although very interested, challenged in following what you are trying to explain.
I will keep on reading, keep up the good work.👍
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I am sure you are not alone, quite sure in fact because I am often in the same boat. It might be helpful to approach it in stages, rather than being daunted by a multitude of happenings. I don't have a CSW yet, or a lot of time on my hands, but am trying to keep up as much as possible for the future. I would gather that the first two things to do would be to adjust the fans, and shift that belt closer to the motor as they are very basic adjustments. Sometimes each change understood and implemented helps the next as well, in both confidence and knowledge garnered.
.... but yes, you are not alone in... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz-TemWooa4
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Just had a thought...
If you guys are increasing the torque of the wheel by whatever means, then you can afford to increase the size of the motor pulleys slightly achieving better belt wrap (and grip) at lower belt tension, therefore reducing drag.
If you guys are increasing the torque of the wheel by whatever means, then you can afford to increase the size of the motor pulleys slightly achieving better belt wrap (and grip) at lower belt tension, therefore reducing drag.
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Yes, how you are thinking is how you mod! You do not have to be locked into the "way it's always been done".
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Hmm, I just did a quick check on stock drag torque on my wheel. I wonder if there are variances. The graph you posted earlier shows .45 lb./ft. and I am only getting .36 lb./ft. at my heaviest reading Though it's not much difference, maybe 12 vs. 13 oz. at the wheel rim). That is a pretty significant difference, on the order of 25%. I wonder how they checked the CSW in the graph?
