Ferrari in GT? Not a chance.

[Jedi2016]

That's probably why the PS3 version is coming out some six months after the 360 version.. hehe.

I remember hearing rumors about a PS3 port, and the TDU thread in the 360 forum even has a release date, but I'm not sure where that information came from. It's unlike a Test Drive game to be system-exclusive, though.. they've always been multiplatform before now.

That will be the big test, though, to see if the PS3 version still contains the full lineup of cars.

 

[Dave A]

I doubt it will, it'd be nice to be wrong in this instance, but I don't see Ferrari's on a PS game anytime soon. Ofcourse it all depends on current contracts as well, say the current license holder loses the license in 4 months, then you could see them on a PS game soon after and I suppose Ferrari may have only offered a short period contract basically milking Microsoft now and then offering licenses as a free for all nearer to the PS3's release, they will have analysts that will look into things like this concering all and every licensing deal Ferrari will ever make. But then, it's all speculation so I don't know.

 

[Jedi2016]

But then, it's all speculation so I don't know.

Yep. That's the crux of the whole argument right there.. nobody knows.. hehe.

"And the waiting... is the hardest part..."

 

[Dave A]

Too true.

 

[McLaren]

That's probably why the PS3 version is coming out some six months after the 360 version.. hehe.

I remember hearing rumors about a PS3 port, and the TDU thread in the 360 forum even has a release date, but I'm not sure where that information came from. It's unlike a Test Drive game to be system-exclusive, though.. they've always been multiplatform before now.

That will be the big test, though, to see if the PS3 version still contains the full lineup of cars.

A PS3 version is planned by Eden Studios, but it is not guaranteed. This is the same with a PC version which is planned is to be released almost a year after the X360's.

TD:U is planned January-March '06.
And yes, there is Ferrari. In fact, we got 2. The 360 Modena and the Enzo.
However, Eden has told us that they plan to release a new car on Live every month and that a few cars will be available 2-3 months after the release.

We've got about 20-25 cars confirmed and there have been hints at 80.

But I think we should get back on topic.

 

[Jedi2016]

Well, it is on topic in a way, that's why I brought it up. If the theory of a system-exclusive license with Ferrari is true, then any Ferraris in TD:U will have to be removed before it can be released on Playstation. If the cars remain intact, then we'll know that Microsoft does not hold an exclusive license.

 

[Mt. Lynx]

Well, it is on topic in a way, that's why I brought it up. If the theory of a system-exclusive license with Ferrari is true, then any Ferraris in TD:U will have to be removed before it can be released on Playstation. If the cars remain intact, then we'll know that Microsoft does not hold an exclusive license.

That will not guarantee Ferraris in GT5 or any "prequal" though, it´s all up to PD to pay for the licensing, and as far as I´ve heard, they won´t, since Ferrari wanted more money for their license, then all other manufacturers put together. Sadly, I can´t remember the source of this info, since it was a long time since I read it. I think it was in some interview with KY, but that´s it.

 

[Jedi2016]

KY never actually gave an answer to the question of Ferrari except that they were "unable to acquire the license", but he gave no specific reason.

I know it's presence in TD won't guarantee anything for GT, but it will at least let us know if the possibility is there.

 

[VVENOM800TT]

It doesn't look like the Ferrari license is XBOX exclusive.

http://www.megagames.com/news/html/pc/outrun2006withnewferrarilicense.shtml

 

[Jedi2016]

Yeah, I found that out today. So I guess it's all about who wants to shell out the big bucks. Me, I can't wait for that game. Like so many other racing games, though, I want them to get the sound right... the F430 is one of the most beautiful-sounding cars on the planet, they'd better get it right. With only twelve cars, though, that shouldn't be as much of an issue as it is in a game with 700+.

I guess we'll have to wait and see how this all plays out with PS3. One thing's for sure, though.. EA's lynching hold on the Ferrari license for PS2 is plainly a thing of the past.

 

[Dave A]

Well thats good news.

 

[Laorin]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4636126912979578001&q=top+gear

there's a reason they are so rare! "over hyped" my ass.

 

[Mt. Lynx]

That was what I was saying before! Imagine doing that Zonda/Carrera GT/ Enzo comparison in a game! Preferably in GT5...

 

[Gabkicks]

yeah.. i want the buggati veryon as well. 0-60 in under 3 seconds 1000hp

 

[Mt. Lynx]

Don´t get me started on supercars I would like to see in GT5...

 

[GT_HAVOK]

💡 cummon guys GT games would out run project gotham anyways no matter what, we have more cars, tracks and alot more gameplay than the project gotham series.

Plus GT have the ability to upgrade cars although im not positive about the new pgr3 having car tuning abilitie anyway.

 

[Keef]

I think that the head honchos of PD don't want Ferrari and Porsche etc. in the game. I think that they see Ferrari as a "fad" car company. Like they cheat or something. Like it's famous for no obvious reason. I don't think this, in fact Porsche is my favorite company, but it's an idea.

 

[Dave A]

Kaz has said many times he'd like thoes companies in but couldn't get them, it's a money issue thats all it can be.

 

[Gabkicks]

I think that the head honchos of PD don't want Ferrari and Porsche etc. in the game. I think that they see Ferrari as a "fad" car company. Like they cheat or something. Like it's famous for no obvious reason. I don't think this, in fact Porsche is my favorite company, but it's an idea.

people just love to share the wrong information 👍 its what makes the world go round.

 

[McLaren]

Yeah, I found that out today. So I guess it's all about who wants to shell out the big bucks. Me, I can't wait for that game. Like so many other racing games, though, I want them to get the sound right... the F430 is one of the most beautiful-sounding cars on the planet, they'd better get it right. With only twelve cars, though, that shouldn't be as much of an issue as it is in a game with 700+.

I guess we'll have to wait and see how this all plays out with PS3. One thing's for sure, though.. EA's lynching hold on the Ferrari license for PS2 is plainly a thing of the past.

True, but EA's holding of Porsche is still there, not to mention the upstart of rumors being they've captured BMW.

 

[The Italian]

A couple of reasons I think Ferrari probably won't want to be in GT5 is -
Because it is supposed to be the '' Real Driving Simulator ", Like others said. No car company, preferably Ferrari, would want its car driven into a wall at 200MPH. Another is Ferrari is a ''Keep-away-from-that-public-eye" type of thing, its more of a modest company, like Buggati. I would know since my relatives work with or are related with Ferrari. And maybe also, like another guy said in this forum is money. Money is a big part, what company would want to put there creations in a big-market-selling game. None. Well, thats why I think Ferrari will not be in GT5, But you never know - There can be a change of heart...

 

[McLaren]

A couple of reasons I think Ferrari probably won't want to be in GT5 is -
Because it is supposed to be the '' Real Driving Simulator ", Like others said. No car company, preferably Ferrari, would want its car driven into a wall at 200MPH. Another is Ferrari is a ''Keep-away-from-that-public-eye" type of thing, its more of a modest company, like Buggati. I would know since my relatives work with or are related with Ferrari. And maybe also, like another guy said in this forum is money. Money is a big part, what company would want to put there creations in a big-market-selling game. None. Well, thats why I think Ferrari will not be in GT5, But you never know - There can be a change of heart...

Poor reasoning then, I'm afraid, as PGR3 allows you to do that and damage it.

And keep away is bull crap...Ferrari wants their cars out there so they can make sells, but at a cost.

 

[LeadSlead#2]

A couple of reasons I think Ferrari probably won't want to be in GT5 is -
Because it is supposed to be the '' Real Driving Simulator ", Like others said. No car company, preferably Ferrari, would want its car driven into a wall at 200MPH. Another is Ferrari is a ''Keep-away-from-that-public-eye" type of thing, its more of a modest company, like Buggati. I would know since my relatives work with or are related with Ferrari. And maybe also, like another guy said in this forum is money. Money is a big part, what company would want to put there creations in a big-market-selling game. None. Well, thats why I think Ferrari will not be in GT5, But you never know - There can be a change of heart...

Ferrari is modest?
I've never known a modest Italian but, maybe

Anyway, I don't know how this discussion went on so long...
NFS has the licensing for Playstation - period
they bought exempt rights a long time ago... and nobody else will have them unless they get NFS to give it up - which as long as they wanna keep selling games, they won't - ever. and I think thats all folks

 

[Jedi2016]

Ferrari is modest?
I've never known a modest Italian but, maybe

Anyway, I don't know how this discussion went on so long...
NFS has the licensing for Playstation - period
they bought exempt rights a long time ago... and nobody else will have them unless they get NFS to give it up - which as long as they wanna keep selling games, they won't - ever. and I think thats all folks

I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but EA's exclusive license for Ferrari is a thing of the past. Obviously, the proliferation of Ferrari on Xbox is a sign of this, but more importantly (as well as the notable absence of Ferrari from NFS:MW, which should have had them along with the Lambos and Porsches), there's the upcoming Outrun 2006, due out exclusively for Playstation 2 next March. And it has nothing but Ferraris.

Now all we have to do is to see who has the exclusive license for next-gen, assuming anyone does. As I mentioned above, Test Drive: Unlimited will be the test bed for that one, assuming it's planned PS3 release happens. If Ferrari is present there, as it is in the XB360 version of the game, then we'll know.

 

[Ford 429 Hemi]

A couple of reasons I think Ferrari probably won't want to be in GT5 is -
Because it is supposed to be the '' Real Driving Simulator ", Like others said. No car company, preferably Ferrari, would want its car driven into a wall at 200MPH. Another is Ferrari is a ''Keep-away-from-that-public-eye" type of thing, its more of a modest company, like Buggati. I would know since my relatives work with or are related with Ferrari. And maybe also, like another guy said in this forum is money. Money is a big part, what company would want to put there creations in a big-market-selling game. None. Well, thats why I think Ferrari will not be in GT5, But you never know - There can be a change of heart...

Bullcrap. Ferrari wants to be in GT. Already said and done with. KY wants them in.
Only issues previously were contracts and time.
As far as not being in a mass market game. Not wanting to be in is damn near foolish. It's great publicicty. And driving it into a wall at 200 mph? You can do that in Forza, NFS, and others. Heck those even have damage!
Ferrari and Lambo have no good reason to not be in GT5.
By good reason I mean something like a liscense to hold them back. And if EA can afford those liscenses being a 3rd party company...
PD should be able to get it since they are 1st party. Sony basically writes thier paychecks and funds the games they make. tell me Sony don't have more $$ than EA and keep a straight face.
Buggati would also want to be in GT5. They have recently stated that while they won't profit a dime off the Veyron, the next car will be a much more accessable car meant to make money. Ask TVR about GT's influence on sales and public notice...
Bottom line is bad publicity isn't a valid reason to keep out of GT. It's anything but bad. it's nto like weare going to get GT and not but that brand new F430 with our sub $150,000 incomes. And that's well above the average of an american home income... They make some money, get their name out, and maby gain a few customers, not many but a few.

 

[LeadSlead#2]

first - I heard Bugatti say they would make craploads.... but maybe the mag miswrote or I misunderstood... sounded like they said Bugatti would make a couple hundred grand off each car....
anyway 2nd, if NFS licensing is up, maybe ferrari, porsche, and lambo and such charge money to let companies put cars in games... and I don't think any others do... or they charge a lot more... but I doubt PD payes for rights to 700 diff cars... that'd be pretty expensive...

 

[YSSMAN]

Its not that Ferrari or Porsche dont want to be in any of the GT titles, its that Polyphony (and it's owner Sony, dont want to pay the fees to have the cars in their games...

To me, its obsurd. If GT is supposed to be the greatest racing franchise in the history of the world, why the hell cant they spend the time and money to include two of the greatest car comapnies in the world?

No... RUF does not count... Same with the McLaren race car in GT4... I want to see the actual cars, that we can drive on the street, in the game...

Another good question would be as to where exactly the Noble M12 GTO was... The Aieral Atom? The Ultima GTR? The Mosler MT900S/Photon?

 

[Laorin]

I don't doubt what any of you are saying, but the people making the argument that "i don't care if ferrari is in the game or not, they're overhyped anyway.." are just.. complete dolts. Sure not all ferrari, porsche, etc. cars are great, but then again their "good" cars are just.. top class. You can't get a better road car. They are cars most of us will never ever get to drive in our lifetimes.

Abd YSSMAN, that Atom was one hell of a machine.

Edit:
leadslead, in response to "sounded like they said Bugatti would make a couple hundred grand off each car...."

Bugatti made each of those cars for five million pounds if I remember hearing it right. They're selling each car for 840k - so they are sustaining a very heavy loss on them. The only reason they made the car was for a technical exercize and not to make any profit, so for whatever reasons they have.. they're selling for a loss. That's why the guys at top gear were saying there would never be another car like this in their lifetimes - the economy just isn't in a position to where a lot of car companies can DO something like that. It's insane.

 

[The Italian]

Ferrari is modest?
I've never known a modest Italian but, maybe

Anyway, I don't know how this discussion went on so long...
NFS has the licensing for Playstation - period
they bought exempt rights a long time ago... and nobody else will have them unless they get NFS to give it up - which as long as they wanna keep selling games, they won't - ever. and I think thats all folks

Lol, good one slead.

 

[The Italian]

Bullcrap. Ferrari wants to be in GT. Already said and done with. KY wants them in.
Only issues previously were contracts and time.
As far as not being in a mass market game. Not wanting to be in is damn near foolish. It's great publicicty. And driving it into a wall at 200 mph? You can do that in Forza, NFS, and others. Heck those even have damage!
Ferrari and Lambo have no good reason to not be in GT5.
By good reason I mean something like a liscense to hold them back. And if EA can afford those liscenses being a 3rd party company...
PD should be able to get it since they are 1st party. Sony basically writes thier paychecks and funds the games they make. tell me Sony don't have more $$ than EA and keep a straight face.
Buggati would also want to be in GT5. They have recently stated that while they won't profit a dime off the Veyron, the next car will be a much more accessable car meant to make money. Ask TVR about GT's influence on sales and public notice...
Bottom line is bad publicity isn't a valid reason to keep out of GT. It's anything but bad. it's nto like weare going to get GT and not but that brand new F430 with our sub $150,000 incomes. And that's well above the average of an american home income... They make some money, get their name out, and maby gain a few customers, not many but a few.

Ford, you might as well summed it all up. Licensing has been a problem, like people said. And money, but yea, what you said most likely hits the nail on the head.