FITT - Federation of International Tuners and Test-Drivers

[coryclifford]

True but not all cars need a trans or suspension upgrade to be pretty sweet. But yeah. I was just thinking along the lines of cheap.

Not like I care, I'm pegged at 50 million Kaz credits.

Pretty sure I'm in for this one if it's happening. 👍

 

[Pete05]

In the time I have been watching (and participating in) FITT threads, I have always wanted to propose a budget challenge. Like 450pp on sports hards with a trans for under a total cost of 60,000 credits on a track like deep forest reverse. You could use any car or maybe limit it to a single drivetrain but spend your money as you see fit as long as it meets those 3 requirements. Parts choices and initial car cost would be crucial as there would not be a lot of money for hop ups after purchasing a car, trans, and tires. This would be a best bang for the buck car challenge.

I like the idea Wydopen however I'm pretty sure one could build a really fast car at 450 PP for $60k. Maybe consider half that?

Maybe. Suspension is what 15k trans is 15k. Car is 10-20k that leaves 10k-20k to buy performance upgrades and that would go pretty fast.

True but not all cars need a trans or suspension upgrade to be pretty sweet. But yeah. I was just thinking along the lines of cheap.

Not like I care, I'm pegged at 50 million Kaz credits.

Pretty sure I'm in for this one if it's happening. 👍

Sounds like a good idea @Wydopen
But I would strongly suggest you limit the field to a certain number of cars. Otherwise you could end up costing the testers a small fortune with having to buy 48 different cars & then tune them

 

[coryclifford]

Or limit it to drivetrain layout or tuning options. Personally, I don't care as I have way too many cars anyways that I do nothing with and a few spins around any of these newer events nets a lot of credits.

 

[Otaliema]

@Wydopen eben if you don't set particular cars to be used. Set cars that can't be used or we may end up with a field of say 111R's (not sure if it allowed due to cost but you get the idea.)

 

[coryclifford]

How about maybe a max cost or PP for the initial purchase of the car?

 

[Wydopen]

The cheapest Elise is 37,600 and with tires and trans added, you are about broke on a stock suspension. That would not be the way to go for the money.

 

[Pete05]

The cheapest Elise is 37,600 and with tires and trans added, you are about broke on a stock suspension. That would not be the way to go for the money.

I advise you to do your homework to cover any loopholes to prevent any runaway winners & ensure a close contest 👍

 

[Wydopen]

So, after looking into building sample cars for the budget event, I was having a hard time coming up with much. On most cars, the trans and suspension runs about 37k or so leaving just 23k to buy and mod the car. I figured I would include the tires for free as some cars do come with SH. Paint and inch up wheels would also be excluded from the build costs so the cars will look good too. I think if we want a variety, we should go 400pp. Not many cars in the lower price range with enough starting pp to make it to 450 with just a couple cheap mods.

 

[DolHaus]

Group B Tarmac Rally

Audi Quattro S1 '86
Lancia Delta S4 '85
Ford RS200 '85
Peugeot 205 T16 Evo 2 '86

540pp (fixed power parts/power limiter)
RH/RI/RW

Circuito de la Sierra
Variable weather conditions (each tester given a specific order and starting conditions) -TBC

Testers have 2 laps, a shakedown (warm up/get to know the car) and then the timed lap.

The second lap is the time that will be given (red laps count)



Thoughts?

 

[coryclifford]

Not interested in Sierra where if you mess up once it takes a ton of time to come back around for another go. Or restart. Hot laps and racing there makes little sense to me unless you know the track perfectly. So I'd be sitting that one out. It's also pretty Arcadey like and meh cause in the parts I do know real well are zero challenge at all. And red laps shouldn't count.

 

[Otaliema]

So here's my plan:

Group B Tarmac Rally

Audi Quattro S1 '86
Lancia Delta S4 '85
Ford RS200 '85
Peugeot 205 T16 Evo 2 '86

540pp (fixed power parts/power limiter)
RH/RI/RW

Circuito de la Sierra
Variable weather conditions (each tester given a specific order and starting conditions) -TBC

Testers have 2 laps, a shakedown (warm up/get to know the car) and then the timed lap.

The second lap is the time that will be given (red laps count)



Thoughts?

That sounds like fun

 

[DolHaus]

Not interested in Sierra where if you mess up once it takes a ton of time to come back around for another go. Or restart. Hot laps and racing there makes little sense to me unless you know the track perfectly. So I'd be sitting that one out. It's also pretty Arcadey like and meh cause in the parts I do know real well are zero challenge at all. And red laps shouldn't count.

In this case its being used as a rally stage, its not a hot lap.

Variable weather conditions (each tester given a specific order and starting conditions) -TBC

Testers have 2 laps, a shakedown (warm up/get to know the car) and then the timed lap.

The second lap is the time that will be given (red laps count)

Like a rally you get one shot at the stage, if you fall off you recover and keep going.

 

[Pete05]

So here's my plan:

Group B Tarmac Rally

Audi Quattro S1 '86
Lancia Delta S4 '85
Ford RS200 '85
Peugeot 205 T16 Evo 2 '86

540pp (fixed power parts/power limiter)
RH/RI/RW

Circuito de la Sierra
Variable weather conditions (each tester given a specific order and starting conditions) -TBC

Testers have 2 laps, a shakedown (warm up/get to know the car) and then the timed lap.

The second lap is the time that will be given (red laps count)



Thoughts?

It's certainly thinking outside the square & has it's merits but I'm not lining up for a ticket just yet.
Instead of the whole lap, have you thought about breaking it up into 3 sections? When you go to the La Sierra page, it gives you the option to 'Practice' and then choose from SS1 - SS4 or full lap. My advice would be to choose 3, making them 1 each of Racing Hard (0% surface water), Intermediate (25-50% surface water) and Wet (75-100%) all with grip set to Real.
Besides that, my only other concern is, not being a fan of Standard cars, I've only got the Audi because it's a Premium. Do I want to spend millions on the other 3 cars? Considering I'm not online & have to slog it out the hard way to earn my credits, taking into account their earning ability & how much time I'd spend in them, that doesn't hold a lot of appeal to be honest

 

[Wydopen]

So here's my plan:

Group B Tarmac Rally

Audi Quattro S1 '86
Lancia Delta S4 '85
Ford RS200 '85
Peugeot 205 T16 Evo 2 '86

540pp (fixed power parts/power limiter)
RH/RI/RW

Circuito de la Sierra
Variable weather conditions (each tester given a specific order and starting conditions) -TBC

Testers have 2 laps, a shakedown (warm up/get to know the car) and then the timed lap.

The second lap is the time that will be given (red laps count)



Thoughts?

I have inadvertently made a track that would be perfect for this. It's kind of matterhorn meets mount panorama, but it's fast enough to be interesting and has good flow. My '03 Subaru rally car with stock suspension settings and 528pp runs 2:02 consistently so it's not even a long Lap. Add me on psn to download it in the community area and try it out. xx-wydopen-xx is my psn. The track is called Hillside Terrace ll.

 

[DolHaus]

It's certainly thinking outside the square & has it's merits but I'm not lining up for a ticket just yet.
Instead of the whole lap, have you thought about breaking it up into 3 sections? When you go to the La Sierra page, it gives you the option to 'Practice' and then choose from SS1 - SS4 or full lap. My advice would be to choose 3, making them 1 each of Racing Hard (0% surface water), Intermediate (25-50% surface water) and Wet (75-100%) all with grip set to Real.
Besides that, my only other concern is, not being a fan of Standard cars, I've only got the Audi because it's a Premium. Do I want to spend millions on the other 3 cars? Considering I'm not online & have to slog it out the hard way to earn my credits, taking into account their earning ability & how much time I'd spend in them, that doesn't hold a lot of appeal to be honest

The length of the lap and randomness of the weather is the point of the exercise, its basically to add real world variables to the mix. Its 2 laps weighing in at around <9 mins so a total test time of <20mins per car which is not unreasonable

 

[Otaliema]

Found this could be interesting for FITT challenges now, custom tracks.

Step 1. Find the track creator's exact PSN ID (case sensitive).
Step 2. Copy and paste https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gt6/user/#!/friend/PSNID/course/ into your web browser's address bar. (The creator does NOT have to be your friend.) Where it says "PSNID", replace that with the creator's PSN ID

Note the PSNID is CASE sensitive so you have to match dead on.
Otaliema's Track(s)

 

[DolHaus]

Found this could be interesting for FITT challenges now, custom tracks.

Note the PSNID is CASE sensitive so you have to match dead on.
https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gt6/user/#!/friend/Otaliema/course/]Otaliema's Track(s)[/url]

The course maker will definitely make for some interesting future events but I'd give it a month or so for the bugs/limitations to become identified 👍

 

[Otaliema]

The course maker will definitely make for some interesting future events but I'd give it a month or so for the bugs/limitations to become identified 👍

Agreed but with this linked method you don't have to spam your FL to get new tracks. Just type in a PSNID and poof you have track lists.

 

[coryclifford]

Yep. And feel free to check my Community page for some good tracks I've found.

 

[Otaliema]

Yep. And feel free to check my Community page for some good tracks I've found.

Awesome grabbed a couple from your list. 👍

 

[DolHaus]

Agreed but with this linked method you don't have to spam your FL to get new tracks. Just type in a PSNID and poof you have track lists.

I'm aware, there is also an android emulator (google bluestacks) that allows those without tablets to run the software on a PC 👍

 

[Otaliema]

I'm aware, there is also an android emulator (google bluestacks) that allows those without tablets to run the software on a PC 👍

That's what I'm using. 17" touch screen laptop so it's super easy to use for me.
I e been trying to replicate the last 10km of Pikes peak but cant seem to get it right.
Prolly gonna have to build it at Eifle flat and start at one corner and go from there

 

[shaunm80]

I have an idea for a competition. It is a one car, one track event once again but using a car that is pretty much maxed out, on a track we haven't used in FITT before. The car I propose we tune is the Toyota FT-86 Concept '09 at 500PP on SH tyres on Red Bull Ring. Two weeks to tune, two weeks to test. Thoughts anyone?

 

[Pete05]

I have an idea for a competition. It is a one car, one track event once again but using a car that is pretty much maxed out, on a track we haven't used in FITT before. The car I propose we tune is the Toyota FT-86 Concept '09 at 500PP on SH tyres on Red Bull Ring. Two weeks to tune, two weeks to test. Thoughts anyone?

Would it be anything goes up to 500PP on SH? Obviously no nitro.

 

[shaunm80]

Would it be anything goes up to 500PP on SH? Obviously no nitro.

Definitely no nitro. A waste of 100k credits no weight restrictions either on this car with ballast allowed if tuners wants too. What do you mean would it be anything?

 

[Pete05]

Definitely no nitro. A waste of 100k credits no weight restrictions either on this car with ballast allowed if tuners wants too. What do you mean would it be anything?

I've never bought nitro in any of the GT's & ne'er seen it in a FITT comp either so no surprises there. What I meant by "anything" was, if it's available in the Tune Shop, can we use it?

 

[DolHaus]

I have an idea for a competition. It is a one car, one track event once again but using a car that is pretty much maxed out, on a track we haven't used in FITT before. The car I propose we tune is the Toyota FT-86 Concept '09 at 500PP on SH tyres on Red Bull Ring. Two weeks to tune, two weeks to test. Thoughts anyone?

RBR is as dull as dishwater to lap in lower PP cars in my opinion, long straights followed by slow corners

 

[shaunm80]

RBR is as dull as dishwater to lap in lower PP cars in my opinion, long straights followed by slow corners

But the car is feasible? Choosing a new track shouldn't be difficult if everyone feels the same way.

I've never bought nitro in any of the GT's & ne'er seen it in a FITT comp either so no surprises there. What I meant by "anything" was, if it's available in the Tune Shop, can we use it?

Yes. Any tuning part that can be fitted is allowed. Infact, they most probably will be to reach 500PP.

 

[DolHaus]

But the car is feasible? Choosing a new track shouldn't be difficult if everyone feels the same way.

Yeah the car and spec is fine, nothing unusual about it. I just don't think it suits the track as that one only gets interesting in the upper tiers at higher speeds

 

[shaunm80]

What tracks are under used in FITT competitions? I am looking for something that we haven't seen in a while that would make this car choice interesting.