Forcednduckshn's Lounge - Clean Spec Racing

drama-kyd
I'm gonna start a punt fix/timeattack/choate/HTrio etc. coalition if anyone else wants in let me know, i'll PM you the details.
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Choate's easy. Just make him start behind me, he'll be so focused on running me into the grass he'll forget about the race :)
 
really fun guys as usual. Force you run a great room and I think you command enough respect and clear judgement to be forceful on governing the proceedings.👍

Trio and TA are such a fun challenge to keep up with, Tha Ghoast was also super fast!! g8t job man!
Great to finally meet the Cheef, and 3_Wide on track...2 fast guys with great attitudes....excellent additions:tup:

I was fortunate to run upfront all night, considering the talent. I switched from my G27 to a friends DFGT, which I swear has a much better feel in this game and more positive steering (especially under braking) despite a noticably inferior build quality to the G27. It was super easy to adapt to, and forsure seems more driveable and slightly faster. Only problem was it had some strange glitch (i guess it was the wheel, perhaps the connection though?) where all four tires would just lock up out of nowhere even though the eBrake wasn't on.:grumpy: ruined every race

Force, I would suggest (or request) we should have 2 rooms and keep the drivers at a min of 10-12 people. It was getting REALLY laggy for me on the opening laps with 14 guys on track. Perhaps it was only me getting that problem though? (in which case, don;t change it on my behalf)
 
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G.McGee
really fun guys as usual. Force you run a great room and I think you command enough respect and clear judgement to be forceful on governing the proceedings.👍

Trio and TA are such a fun challenge to keep up with, Tha Ghoast was also super fast!! g8t job man!
Great to finally meet the Cheef, and 3_Wide on track...2 fast guys with great attitudes....excellent additions:tup:

I was fortunate to run upfront all night. I switched from my G27 to a friends DFGT, which I swear has a much better feel in this game and more positive steering (especially under braking) despite a noticably inferior build quality to the G27. It was super easy to adapt to, and forsure seems more driveable and slightly faster. Only problem was it had some strange glitch (i guess it was the wheel, perhaps the connection though?) where all four tires would just lock up out of nowhere even though the eBrake wasn't on.:grumpy: ruined every race

Force, I would suggest (or request) we should have 2 rooms and keep the drivers at a min of 10-12 people. It was getting REALLY laggy for me on the opening laps with 14 guys on track. Perhaps it was only me getting that problem though?
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The dfgt has some interesting kinks despite being fully compatible. Besides the pedals and just breaking in general, it seems to act up with the physics alot (reeeally obvious when drifting, losing FF at weird times...)

Maybe instead of me starting a different room if enough people can't make it, the first person not to make it in should just start up a room? Nick could set a limit of 12 and then we could work from there. If the person who started the room isn't friends with everyone, I could send out a mass message to everyone who wasn't in the lobby about the new one...Or maybe they could post up the room number in here?
 
Gents, I'll be entertaining a hot blonde tonight, therefore, I will likely not be hosting the lobby...but if I do I will msg all. If I get on, I will look to join Stig's room if he has it up and go from there 👍
 
G.McGee
really fun guys as usual. Force you run a great room and I think you command enough respect and clear judgement to be forceful on governing the proceedings.👍

Trio and TA are such a fun challenge to keep up with, Tha Ghoast was also super fast!! g8t job man!
Great to finally meet the Cheef, and 3_Wide on track...2 fast guys with great attitudes....excellent additions:tup:

I was fortunate to run upfront all night, considering the talent. I switched from my G27 to a friends DFGT, which I swear has a much better feel in this game and more positive steering (especially under braking) despite a noticably inferior build quality to the G27. It was super easy to adapt to, and forsure seems more driveable and slightly faster. Only problem was it had some strange glitch (i guess it was the wheel, perhaps the connection though?) where all four tires would just lock up out of nowhere even though the eBrake wasn't on.:grumpy: ruined every race

Force, I would suggest (or request) we should have 2 rooms and keep the drivers at a min of 10-12 people. It was getting REALLY laggy for me on the opening laps with 14 guys on track. Perhaps it was only me getting that problem though? (in which case, don;t change it on my behalf)
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Thanks brother!

You really like the DFGT and prefer it over the G27?!?! And you think it's faster!?!? <Sigh>. Now you make me want to buy ANOTHER DFGT in the mean time before I get in the one that I won from Round 1...will need to do more research, but please elaborate more if you could on the topic (and others share their opinion too) Personally, I have never had the 4-tire lockup issue.

I'll def keep the 10-12 people option alive. For me, corner 1 was dodgy, but good throughout the rest of the race. Let's keep an eye on that and make a decision after another few nights:tup:
 
We all know by hot blonde you mean three fat chicks....

sry couldn't resist.

I'll unfortunately be stuck studying for an economics mid-term, followed by one very attractive looking bottle of jack, so don't expect much from me tonight; If I find my way into the lobby I suggest you boot my ass lickidy-split.
 
Forcednduckshn
Thanks brother!

You really like the DFGT and prefer it over the G27?!?! And you think it's faster!?!? <Sigh>. Now you make me want to buy ANOTHER DFGT in the mean time before I get in the one that I won from Round 1...will need to do more research, but please elaborate more if you could on the topic (and others share their opinion too) Personally, I have never had the 4-tire lockup issue.
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I wouldn't say I prefer it more. the G27 is still my fav wheel. Just superior equipment, especially the pedals; however, I just started using it last night and I've already noticed the DFGT ForceFeedback is much more useful in telling you what is going on for some reason? (the G27 just seems to have resistance but no real feedback and sometimes the feedback can be the opposite effect of what you'd feel in RL which can be a lil confusing).

On top of that the steering (especially under the brakes) generates slightly less understeer when entering a corner, which probably only amounts to a couple of hundreths, but it also helps you point the car to get back to throttle sooner which could result in more time found as well? I have noticed that when I am barely braking the brake force gauge is Fluttering super fast (which doesn't happen on the G27) which may account for the mitigated understeer.

all of this results ( I feel) in VERY SLIGHT speed gain.

The G27 physical steering (moving the wheel lock2lock without the game even on) feels much more solid than the DFGT, just like the Pedals feel far more solid. I really just think the extra speed I believe i'm getting is a software issue? The way the game interputs the DFGT vs the G27 just seems slightly diff.

But It could just be in my head, lol
 
Conman_Skills
We all know by hot blonde you mean three fat chicks....

sry couldn't resist.

I'll unfortunately be stuck studying for an economics mid-term, followed by one very attractive looking bottle of jack, so don't expect much from me tonight; If I find my way into the lobby I suggest you boot my ass lickidy-split.
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hahaha hey 3 fat chicks is better than no chicks at all!
 
We had a great lounge last night. It was a little quieter than usual, but there was still some great racing. Cheef, Glenn, and I started out at Daytona, and shortly after LaPierre4 joined to remind us how happy we are that les Canadiens aren't included... Kekembas, Sean, GoszkiOszolom, and Choate also joined...I'm sorry if I missed anyone...

A solid 7 races went off without any major issues - super clean racing, although Suzuka and Nurburgring came down to who made the fewest number of huge mistakes... We tried to run courses that might show up in Orlando, and we ran the tuned G37, Nismo 380, GT-R, and Impul GT-R, with the stickiest tires being sports mediums on the GT500 car - great practice. Personally, I was happy enough finishing 2nd in the last 5 races - it's tough to steal a top spot in that type of room.

Once Forced returns from Pleasure Town, I'm sure he will open up the action tonight
 
Hey guys, sorry I didn't stop by last night...was super tired and couldn't manage to drag myself to the cockpit :dunce: I'll try and join tonight though.

G.McGee
I wouldn't say I prefer it more. the G27 is still my fav wheel. Just superior equipment, especially the pedals; however, I just started using it last night and I've already noticed the DFGT ForceFeedback is much more useful in telling you what is going on for some reason? (the G27 just seems to have resistance but no real feedback and sometimes the feedback can be the opposite effect of what you'd feel in RL which can be a lil confusing).

On top of that the steering (especially under the brakes) generates slightly less understeer when entering a corner, which probably only amounts to a couple of hundreths, but it also helps you point the car to get back to throttle sooner which could result in more time found as well? I have noticed that when I am barely braking the brake force gauge is Fluttering super fast (which doesn't happen on the G27) which may account for the mitigated understeer.

all of this results ( I feel) in VERY SLIGHT speed gain.

The G27 physical steering (moving the wheel lock2lock without the game even on) feels much more solid than the DFGT, just like the Pedals feel far more solid. I really just think the extra speed I believe i'm getting is a software issue? The way the game interputs the DFGT vs the G27 just seems slightly diff.

But It could just be in my head, lol
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Interesting findings Glenn 👍 I know in GT5 Prologue the DFGT probably had the best FFB feel (in terms of smaller nuances and the way the wheel unwinded out of a corner) of any of the wheels I tried (most likely down to the FFB coding being more designed around the DFGT), so I wouldn't be surprised if this is also the case in GT5 (although the T500RS is probably best of all).

I'm going to hook up my spare DFGT in the next few days to get ready for Orlando, so I'll try and share some of my thoughts on how it feels compared to the G27 (my Fanatec GT3RS doesn't work anymore :ouch:). Fortunately the pedals won't take too much getting used to for me, as I actually don't mind the soft/sensitive pedals of the DFGT (I currently have the clutch & brake springs swapped on my G27 pedals, so that the brake is much softer and similar to the DFGT).

It will also be interesting to see what wheels we use in Orlando. Most likely we will be using DFGT's, but if the organizers really go all out we could possibly be using the new Thrustmaster T500RS, which would be a sweet experience but also quite foreign to most of us...
 
Got sidelined by work last night, not nearly as much fun as forced' evening ;)
Didn't they say in the rules that the races in orlando were to be run with DFGT's?
 
I sent friend requests last night to Stig and Forced, hopefully I'll be racing with you dudes tonight, I should be on sometime after 7:30 eastern.

Cheers!
 
I'll chime in on the wheels... I actually think that the G25 picked up more feedback than the DFGT. I made the switch in round 1 while I was really working on my Cape Ring time, and it took me a solid 4 days with the DFGT before I could match my time with the G25. The curbing at Cape Ring caused strong reactions in the FBB of my G25, but it was almost unnoticeable from the DFGT. I had to rely more on other sights/sounds/angles to make sure that running over a curb wasn't causing the car to slide. So in that respect, I would say the G25 is more accurate in relaying FBB than the DFGT.

To echo T/A's suggestion, I think we WILL be using DFGT's in Orlando, especially since it is stated in the rules that DFGT will be the wheel of choice. It also keeps the costs down...the Thrustmaster wheel is 6x more expensive than the DFGT.
 
The Outlaw
Hey guys, sorry I didn't stop by last night...was super tired and couldn't manage to drag myself to the cockpit :dunce: I'll try and join tonight though.


Interesting findings Glenn 👍 I know in GT5 Prologue the DFGT probably had the best FFB feel (in terms of smaller nuances and the way the wheel unwinded out of a corner) of any of the wheels I tried (most likely down to the FFB coding being more designed around the DFGT), so I wouldn't be surprised if this is also the case in GT5 (although the T500RS is probably best of all).

I'm going to hook up my spare DFGT in the next few days to get ready for Orlando, so I'll try and share some of my thoughts on how it feels compared to the G27 (my Fanatec GT3RS doesn't work anymore :ouch:). Fortunately the pedals won't take too much getting used to for me, as I actually don't mind the soft/sensitive pedals of the DFGT (I currently have the clutch & brake springs swapped on my G27 pedals, so that the brake is much softer and similar to the DFGT).

It will also be interesting to see what wheels we use in Orlando. Most likely we will be using DFGT's, but if the organizers really go all out we could possibly be using the new Thrustmaster T500RS, which would be a sweet experience but also quite foreign to most of us...
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that'll be interesting to compare notes TA


blindsidefive0
The curbing at Cape Ring caused strong reactions in the FBB of my G25, but it was almost unnoticeable from the DFGT. I had to rely more on other sights/sounds/angles to make sure that running over a curb wasn't causing the car to slide. So in that respect, I would say the G25 is more accurate in relaying FBB than the DFGT.
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I believe you may be talking about the FORCE more so than the feedback Blind? not sure?, I experienced the same thing with my G27. The Force is WAY stronger with the G27. I had to turn it down to the lowest setting so it wouldn't rip my arm off! With the DFGT I turned the FF to the highest setting because its much weaker FORCE. I was speaking strictly to the feedback how it, like TA said, has slight "nuances" that make a small diff.
 
Great room BTW Blind. very challenging track/car/tyre combos

Blind you were solid as always, and Cheef has turned out to be a very fast fierce competitor. I know ya'll will both do well in Orlando!

I'm glad La Pierre was there to keep us on our toes.
 
so how does this online racing work? do I have to be in your guys friend to get in to your lobby?

my psn is tenhulzenauto if you want to friend request me, as of now i dont have any lol
 
nickmp0wer
so how does this online racing work? do I have to be in your guys friend to get in to your lobby?

my psn is tenhulzenauto if you want to friend request me, as of now i dont have any lol
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You don't HAVE to be but it will make finding the room easier if you are :) I'll friend you when I get home this evening

edit: just a heads up - it appears as if psn will be down until 10pm EST tonight..not sure if it actually will be down that long, but may affect racing tonight for some folks. As per usual I'll still be on until at least 1 am est.

edit numero dos: can't get the fanatec h-shifter till MAY!!! between that and some friendly advice looks like I'm going for a g25/27 as my upgrade instead.
 
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There was some awesome racing going on last night! I had a great time and can't wait to do some more racing with you guys. Unfortunately, I've been participating in this thing called school and I'm currently in damage control mode, doing my best not to end up on academic probation right now (spent a little more time playing GT this quarter than doing hw haha, but whatever, I feel like it's worth it!). But yeah, I'm going to have to put most of my racing on hold for the next few days as I've got an important final on friday morning. We'll see though, if I'm feeling like I've made good progress, I might drop in for an hour tonight.

Regards,

The Cheef

p.s. Thanks Glenn, I'm glad you think so!
 
G.McGee
I believe you may be talking about the FORCE more so than the feedback Blind? not sure?, I experienced the same thing with my G27. The Force is WAY stronger with the G27. I had to turn it down to the lowest setting so it wouldn't rip my arm off! With the DFGT I turned the FF to the highest setting because its much weaker FORCE. I was speaking strictly to the feedback how it, like TA said, has slight "nuances" that make a small diff.
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I could be mistaking the force for the feedback, but I remember the G25 was strong over curbs, and the DFGT was non-existent...so I think it's kind of both. I thought I remembered more feedback, not just more force, from the G25. I've also read that the G25 is MORE compatible in some small ways than the G27. It was just from a post on this forum, and I forget the details...so who knows if it's right.

Either way, neither gives you the OBVIOUS real life feedback of understeer - in GT5 anyway. It's one of the most obvious pieces of feedback I get from my wheel IRL, and it just doesn't exist in the game.
 
BlacqueJacques
I will keep an eye out for your CLEAN SPEC Racing 👍 , cheers
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Send me a friend request - sometimes I hop on earlier than others. When my wife works evenings, I like to maximize the GT5 time before she gets home so I hop right on after work.

EDIT - I prefer racing against Canada's finest (Pierre, Egghead, Trio, etc...), since you won't be competition in Orlando, but can still whip my 🤬 into shape race after race... ;)
 
PSN is up, so we can race online. I hope to see you guys soon.

Cheers!
 
xe2bls
I'm ready, just waiting for you guys to start.
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Opening a lobby in 5 running by forced's rules :) psn message will be sent (anyone else notice the new attachment option :dopey:)

Just got drifted my new drift baby and have to customize it :) Not for tonight of course...spec racing tonight.
 

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