Ford planning LeMans Return + Ford GT revival

[Grandea GTR]

Why is everyone going on about the GT's aircon being like the XJ220? It's in the engine bay like most other cars

I think he meant the AC vents.

 

[Legro]

Why is everyone going on about the GT's aircon being like the XJ220? It's in the engine bay like most other cars

He probably meant the vents. That's the only explanation I can think of. Although I'm still not sure why the XJ220 was mentioned.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

Right. And the vent placement is like the XJ220 how?

In the GT they're on the doors, an unconventional but elegant and interesting solution. The XJ220 has a pretty conventional layout.

 

[Grandea GTR]

Right. And the vent placement is like the XJ220 how?

In the GT they're on the doors, an unconventional but elegant and interesting solution. The XJ220 has a pretty conventional layout.

I like the styling of the XJ220's interior. I also find the door-mounted gauges to look appealing.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

I like the styling of the XJ220's interior. I also find the door-mounted gauges to look appealing.

Could we try and stay on topic?

 

[GranTurismo guy]

Could we try and stay on topic?

Yes. Stop posting xj220 photos then

It's like the xj220, btw, because the vent is located on the door (the jag's being right by it) and the fact that they both have a segment of the dashboard attached to the door.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

Yes. Stop posting xj220 photos then

It's like the xj220, btw, because the vent is located on the door (the jag's being right by it) and the fact that they both have a segment of the dashboard attached to the door.

I don't see the similarities. Almost all cars have vents right by the doors, so in that respect the Ford GT is like virtually every car. I would also debate your statement that the GT has part of its dashboard on the doors. It has the vents on the doors and the gauges in front of the driver.

If anything, the Ford GT's interior vent placement resembles a Chrysler Concorde:

It's certainly closer to the Chrysler than the Jag.

 

[GranTurismo guy]

I would also debate your statement that the GT has part of its dashboard on the doors.

The vent is part of the dashboard. It's attached to the door. Therefore, part of the dashboard is on the door.

And yes it is quite like the Chrysler.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

The vent is part of the dashboard. It's attached to the door. Therefore, part of the dashboard is on the door.

If it's attached to the door, it's not part of the dashboard. The dashboard is "A panel under the windshield of a vehicle, containing indicator dials, compartments, and sometimes control instruments."

 

[GranTurismo guy]

If it's attached to the door, it's not part of the dashboard. The dashboard is "A panel under the windshield of a vehicle, containing indicator dials, compartments, and sometimes control instruments."

When the door is closed, it fits that description fine.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

When the door is closed, it fits that description fine.

I disagree. Either way, it's a pretty flimsy tie to the XJ220.

 

[GranTurismo guy]

I agree. Either way, it's a pretty flimsy tie to the XJ220 IMO.

FTFY

I guess it's a subjective matter.

Getting back on topic, any figures for horsepower yet, or weight?

 

[Beeblebrox237]

FTFY

I guess it's a subjective matter.

Getting back on topic, any figures for horsepower yet, or weight?

It's a flimsy tie, period. IMO it's a nonexistent tie.

No hard figures, but Ford claims it has over 600 bhp and developed it to have the best power to weight ratio of any car on sale today. With 650 bhp that means it would need to weigh 650 kg to match the Koeniggsegg One:1, which is pretty mental.

 

[Grandea GTR]

Could we try and stay on topic?

Well you did post the photo... Couldn't help it.

But yeah. On topic.

So would the R8, 560S (or 650S?), and possibly the new Ferrari be part of the competition up for the GT to go against?

 

[GranTurismo guy]

It's a flimsy tie, period. IMO it's a nonexistent tie.

No hard figures, but Ford claims it has over 600 bhp and developed it to have the best power to weight ratio of any car on sale today. With 650 bhp that means it would need to weigh 650 kg to match the Koeniggsegg One:1, which is pretty mental.

I could imagine it weighing around 1250kg (I don't think that's too ambitious of a figure??) and be close to or at 700hp.

@Grandea GTR that was my thought

 

[Beeblebrox237]

Well you did post the photo... Couldn't help it.

I posted the photo as a comparison to the Ford GT and as evidence for my argument about its interior. Just like how I posted the photo of a dreadful Chrysler.

 

[GranTurismo guy]

I posted the photo as a comparison to the Ford GT and as evidence for my argument about its interior. Just like how I posted the photo of a dreadful Chrysler.

I guess that means you don't like the way the gt interior is then?

 

[R5]

Can we please stop with this "Oh the interior is like... and not like..." discussion?

K thanks

 

[GranTurismo guy]

Can we please stop with this "Oh the interior is like... and not like..." discussion?

K thanks

I did stop. I asked him if he liked the gt's interior or not.

 

[R5]

I did stop. I asked him if he liked the gt's interior or not.

Not just you.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

I guess that means you don't like the way the gt interior is then?

*sigh*

A concrete bunker has a nicer interior than the 2005 GT. The new interior looks alright, though. Comfortable and of good quality, but not very special.

 

[GranTurismo guy]

Going back to ford's power to weight statement, I just can't imagine how they are going about it in terms of figures- high power? Low weight? A balance of the two?

The numbers, for sure, must be nuts regardless.

 

[Grandea GTR]

Not just you.

I stopped minutes ago. All should be well.

Going back to ford's power to weight statement, I just can't imagine how they are going about it in terms of figures- high power? Low weight? A balance of the two?

The numbers, for sure, must be nuts regardless.

I have a feeling it would have a balance of power and weight.

Wonder how well it corners.

 

[GranTurismo guy]

I stopped minutes ago. All should be well.


I have a feeling it would have a balance of power and weight.

Wonder how well it corners.

Well it doesn't have massive spoilers or anything, so I am curious about the handling of downforce, but it can imagine this will be more a cornering car than a flat out speed machine like the Laferrari etc

 

[Grandea GTR]

Well it doesn't have massive spoilers or anything, so I am curious about the handling of downforce, but it can imagine this will be more a cornering car than a flat out speed machine like the Laferrari etc

But it does have channels, vents, and those buttresses.

We'll see once it comes out.

 

[catamount39]

I wonder how big the list of aero tricks that will be taken out for the GTE car will be?

 

[AudiMan2011]

Well it doesn't have massive spoilers or anything, so I am curious about the handling of downforce, but it can imagine this will be more a cornering car than a flat out speed machine like the Laferrari etc

I reckon that like the LaFerrari and Pagani Huayra, it'll utilise active aero.

CarScoops
Finally, the Ford GT also boasts a motorsport designed inboard pushrod suspension and active-aero wings that improve downforce and braking.

 

[GranTurismo guy]

I reckon that like the LaFerrari and Pagani Huayra, it'll utilise active aero.

I thought this might be the case.

 

[McLaren]

If you're in the market for a brand new supercar, a couple of 100 thousand probably won't be a massive problem.

Ehh, I'd argue there's still a fine line there. The majority of these folks who buy $200,000 cars are buying them because that's what they can either afford comfortably or the max they care to spend on a car. If they buy them, but have an income to purchase a $400,000 car, then chances are that they've either already bought the $400,000 car, or didn't like it when they considered it.

Well you did post the photo... Couldn't help it.

But yeah. On topic.

So would the R8, 560S (or 650S?), and possibly the new Ferrari be part of the competition up for the GT to go against?

If this car has 700Hp (I've read it's pushing 600+ at the least), is running $400,000, & looks the way it does, I wouldn't be surprised if this is aimed at the 650S/488, or above. I can't see it having trouble against the R8 or 560S, though. $400,000 is a lot of money for a car that can't get away from a R8 or 570S that both cost under $200,000.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Ehh, I'd argue there's still a fine line there. The majority of these folks who buy $200,000 cars are buying them because that's what they can either afford comfortably or the max they care to spend on a car. If they buy them, but have an income to purchase a $400,000 car, then chances are that they've either already bought the $400,000 car, or didn't like it when they considered it.



If this car has 700Hp (I've read it's pushing 600+ at the least), is running $400,000, & looks the way it does, I wouldn't be surprised if this is aimed at the 650S/488, or above. I can't see it having trouble against the R8 or 560S, though. $400,000 is a lot of money for a car that can't get away from a R8 or 570S that both cost under $200,000.

I think Ford is aiming to outperform the 488/650s honestly. It should be far lighter than both, similar power, and has way, way more advanced aero. I'm willing to bet this is essentially a road legal Daytona Prototype that doesn't have to conform to the rulebook.