Ford planning LeMans Return + Ford GT revival

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1. For no reason whatsoever, your car would crash twice a day.

2. Every time they repainted the lines in the road, you would have to buy a new car.

3. Occasionally your car would die on the freeway for no reason. You would have to pull to the side of the road, close all of the windows, shut off the car, restart it, and reopen the windows before you could continue.

For some reason you would simply accept this.

4. Occasionally, executing a maneuver such as a left turn would cause your car to shut down and refuse to restart, in which case you would have to reinstall the engine.

5. Macintosh would make a car that was powered by the sun, was reliable, five times as fast and twice as easy to drive - but would run on only five percent of the roads.

6. The oil, water temperature, and alternator warning lights would all be replaced by a single "This Car Has Performed An Illegal Operation" warning light.

7. The airbag system would ask "Are you sure?" before deploying.

8. Occasionally, for no reason whatsoever, your car would lock you out and refuse to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door handle, turned the key and grabbed hold of the radio antenna.

9. Every time a new car was introduced car buyers would have to learn how to drive all over again because none of the controls would operate in the same manner as the old car.

10. You'd have to press the "Start" button to turn the engine off."
 
The reason for that is the car apparently has too much computing power.

That makes absolutely no sense.


That would be like me opening 96,000 tabs in chrome because I have 32gb of ram to waste.

chief engineer Jamal Hameedi said the car has more lines of code than is strictly necessary because the company used off-the-shelf components, meaning tailored software was not possible.

So the truth is that the coding is a sloppy pick-n-pull from a myriad of component manufacturers all copy and pasted into one file. But I guess that's less impressive sounding than the car has too much computing power.
 
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It's ye olde internet time!

1. For no reason whatsoever, your car would crash twice a day.

2. Every time they repainted the lines in the road, you would have to buy a new car.

3. Occasionally your car would die on the freeway for no reason. You would have to pull to the side of the road, close all of the windows, shut off the car, restart it, and reopen the windows before you could continue.

For some reason you would simply accept this.

4. Occasionally, executing a maneuver such as a left turn would cause your car to shut down and refuse to restart, in which case you would have to reinstall the engine.

5. Macintosh would make a car that was powered by the sun, was reliable, five times as fast and twice as easy to drive - but would run on only five percent of the roads.

6. The oil, water temperature, and alternator warning lights would all be replaced by a single "This Car Has Performed An Illegal Operation" warning light.

7. The airbag system would ask "Are you sure?" before deploying.

8. Occasionally, for no reason whatsoever, your car would lock you out and refuse to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door handle, turned the key and grabbed hold of the radio antenna.

9. Every time a new car was introduced car buyers would have to learn how to drive all over again because none of the controls would operate in the same manner as the old car.

10. You'd have to press the "Start" button to turn the engine off."
11. When you turn it to track mode, a little paperclip asks if you need help.
 
Wait till this one is as old is the previous one is now.
Hmm...maybe...maybe not. Never know. The 2005-2006 version was an epic tribute more than an evolution of the car. Would I be surprised if these became like 5 times their value in the coming years? No, but the older one is still climbing the value ladder and this new one when the first one rolls off the production line will probably hike prices even more.
 
I always thought the old gt was crazy cheap.

Yeah and the owners that still have theirs are the ones that came out ahead since the car sells for double (rough estimate) compared to when they bought it.

Hmm...maybe...maybe not. Never know. The 2005-2006 version was an epic tribute more than an evolution of the car. Would I be surprised if these became like 5 times their value in the coming years? No, but the older one is still climbing the value ladder and this new one when the first one rolls off the production line will probably hike prices even more.

It has nothing to do with being an epic tribute, the fact it was successor to the original is one reason, the engine it used and the performance it delivered. And the fact it was a limited number, very limited production as Ford said it would be was all the reason to buy it. And more so all the reason it was going to be a show piece/auction item down the road.

What would make this car climb faster than the GT before it is if they do the same limited numbers as the previous one but stretch it over time if they want, and then win races with it. So if the car won Le Mans for example...

The main reason we can expect these cars to resale super high is because of the linage and any other linage it can create.
 
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Yeah and the owners that still have theirs are the ones that came out ahead since the car sells for double (rough estimate) compared to when they bought it.



It has nothing to do with being an epic tribute, the fact it was successor to the original is one reason, the engine it used and the performance it delivered. And the fact it was a limited number, very limited production as Ford said it would be was all the reason to buy it. And more so all the reason it was going to be a show piece/auction item down the road.

What would make this car climb faster than the GT before it is if they do the same limited numbers as the previous one but stretch it over time if they want, and then win races with it. So if the car won Le Mans for example...

The main reason we can expect these cars to resale super high is because of the linage and any other linage it can create.
If this new car won Le Mans in GTE-Pro the prices would double...no...triple within a week. :scared:
 
More lines of code. That's just stupidly vague. You really can't read anything into that.
Plus, the engines on a jet run their own computer systems which are created by the engine manufacturer, not the airframe manufacturer. It's also a helluva lot easier to keep a jet engine running than a piston engine - the computers don't make it run, the fuel does. The computers just monitor various sensors. That's quite unlike modern piston engines which simply can't run without the ECU which requires inputs from all the sensors to make decisions about how to run the engine.
 
@Keef Stop injecting science and engineering into this discussion. We're trying to wave our arms around like a bunch of Neanderthals here!
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If this new car won Le Mans in GTE-Pro the prices would double...no...triple within a week. :scared:
It wouldn't. As long as the car is in production, resale values will only climb over MSRP by folks trying to flip them for a profit when they start hitting showrooms. Winning Le Mans won't do anything but add some legacy to the car later on down the road.

McLaren F1s didn't immediately double in price after 1995 & to this day, climb in value due to age, rarity, & its legendary Guinness record that put the car on top of the automotive world.

I don't see the '16 GT accomplishing quite what the '05 car did on the used market, at least not in the same, short time span of under a decade. It's still a $400,000 car & is an evolution of the car rather than a retro-throwback like the last car.
 
It wouldn't. As long as the car is in production, resale values will only climb over MSRP by folks trying to flip them for a profit when they start hitting showrooms. Winning Le Mans won't do anything but add some legacy to the car later on down the road.

McLaren F1s didn't immediately double in price after 1995 & to this day, climb in value due to age, rarity, & its legendary Guinness record that put the car on top of the automotive world.

I don't see the '16 GT accomplishing quite what the '05 car did on the used market, at least not in the same, short time span of under a decade. It's still a $400,000 car & is an evolution of the car rather than a retro-throwback like the last car.

I agree....somewhat. Success in international racing never really propped up the value of C5 generation Corvettes or 2nd generation Dodge Vipers. But the GT legend is so intertwined with LeMans, I could see owners at least attempting to ask very high prices after a class win.
 
I think Ford is aiming to outperform the 488/650s honestly. It should be far lighter than both, similar power, and has way, way more advanced aero. I'm willing to bet this is essentially a road legal Daytona Prototype that doesn't have to conform to the rulebook.

What makes you think it has way, way more advanced aero than a 488?
 
I agree....somewhat. Success in international racing never really propped up the value of C5 generation Corvettes or 2nd generation Dodge Vipers. But the GT legend is so intertwined with LeMans, I could see owners at least attempting to ask very high prices after a class win.

Why would it when they're mass produced in far larger quantities. And it seems these GT like the GT40 road cars are only being built due to Le Mans and WEC competition. Though the C5 Z06 lemans edition still sell for around 40k at times I see one pop up so I mean
 
What makes you think it has way, way more advanced aero than a 488?
Probably the body for one.
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I don't know if advanced is the right word considering the 488 likely has a lot more active aero going on underneath it, but the GT does look more aerodynamic in general. It's rare to see a road car "missing" this much body work for the air to pass through.
 
Probably the body for one.
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I don't know if advanced is the right word considering the 488 likely has a lot more active aero going on underneath it, but the GT does look more aerodynamic in general. It's rare to see a road car "missing" this much body work for the air to pass through.

Yep. We don't know for sure until we know for sure, but it's my guess.

Speaking of, I feel that both Ford and SCG both missed the mark on getting the boat-tail to work aesthetically. It's too boxy and inelegant in the Ford and not very cohesive nor detailed well in the SCG. In both cases, they put big circular elements in the middle that aren't actually exhaust to break up the void. :lol: I don't find that a very pleasing solution.
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If this becomes a trend (and I hope it does, because it's ****ing cool) I think designers should take a look back at history on how to resolve it properly. I know they've cut the tail in the 'kamm' manner to reduce length, but maybe they could play with it a little more. This Rolls Royce from 1914 is pretty damn elegant with it's boat-tail.

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The Auburn speedster's tail is also pretty beautiful.
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Perhaps changing the actual terminating shape isn't possible, but at least detail it better!
 
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