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Why does that tire appear to be flat and coming off the rim....
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Lighting from underneath
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McLaren won't challenge for F1 title until 2024
McLaren is hoping to have "everything we need" within 18 months
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Zak... why you do this to me?
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I’m seeing reports that Merc would make a move for Gasly if Lewis retires. Can’t say I could think of a better option. He has way outdriven that car the past couple of years.
I feel bad for Gasly cause it seems like he’s stuck at AT. Even if he gets promoted to up to Red Bull (again) he’s going to get the #2 driver treatment. It doesn’t seem like he has much of a Future with Red Bull.
I feel bad for Gasly cause it seems like he’s stuck at AT. Even if he gets promoted to up to Red Bull (again) he’s going to get the #2 driver treatment. It doesn’t seem like he has much of a Future with Red Bull.
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If Lewis goes, Gasly and Ocon seem like the two options Mercedes would pursue. Ocon because he was at Merc in 2019 and is a known quantity there. Gasly because of the reasons above.
Both are race winners in midfield cars, so they have already got that monkey off their back which will help with removing an extra layer of pressure for a late promotion to a top team.
Both are race winners in midfield cars, so they have already got that monkey off their back which will help with removing an extra layer of pressure for a late promotion to a top team.
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Pastor Maldonado on an alternate reality:
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Pastor Maldonado on an alternate reality:
“I was expecting the move”– Pastor Maldonado discusses his “Verstappen like” negotiations for a possible all Spanish speaking Ferrari lineup
Comparing himself to Max Verstappen, Pastor Maldonado reveals he was in talks to move to Ferrari in 2014 alongside Alonso.
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I get a massive feeling of doubt. Maybe his manager emailed Ferrari and they organised a meeting that never happened for a GT 3 drive or something.Ladies and gentlemen,
Pastor Maldonado on an alternate reality:
“I was expecting the move”– Pastor Maldonado discusses his “Verstappen like” negotiations for a possible all Spanish speaking Ferrari lineup
Comparing himself to Max Verstappen, Pastor Maldonado reveals he was in talks to move to Ferrari in 2014 alongside Alonso.
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Zak Brown: McLaren boss says no sprint events in 2022 a possibility
Formula 1 is in danger of not having any sprint events this year as a result of a stand-off over money, says McLaren boss Zak Brown.
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Zak Brown: McLaren boss says no sprint events in 2022 a possibility
Formula 1 is in danger of not having any sprint events this year as a result of a stand-off over money, says McLaren boss Zak Brown.www.bbc.co.uk
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I didn't mind the sprints. Made the whole weekend more entertaining than just FP1, FP2, FP3.....
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F1 will stop race promoters from putting on part of their pre-race displays during the 2022 season and beyond.
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This is, I think the biggest issue with F1 in general. Very few seats that are genuinely worth a damn, short of "Well I got to drive F1 for a while". Look at someone like Danny Ricciardo. Nice guy, suitably quick, maybe could have been a contender. But he's now been out of a top-tier car for so long and has more or less aged out. I mean, would any team pick him as a key driver in a world championship winning car? Not likely.
There is a small glimmer of hope when engines and cars change, that you could end up with another Jenson Button one-off WDC. But for most of these drivers the ceiling is already there, despite being an F1 driver. With drivers like Lewis and Max more or less ruling their team for 7-10 years at a time, and only 2-3 teams being genuinely competitive, plenty of F1 drivers do an entire 10-15 year career without so much as a podium.
Look at guys like Hulkenberg. I'm not saying he had the talent to be WDC but...just an entire career of accomplishing nothing of note in the sport, etc.
As you said - where would Gasly go if not a random surprise move like replacing Hamilton, etc. I hope new cars move toward changing this, but it sucks knowing that if you don't start as a phenom with some luck in the right team, your F1 future is already limited.
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Considering the number of top seats vs total seats on the grid, there has always been a three stooges syndrome with regards to great drivers never getting the drive they might have earnt or that one chance at realistically going for the championship. Every passing F1 generation has its drivers whom you might feel are talented but never got the chance because of the elite drivers occupying the top spots.
A front-running driver with race-winning experience is the literal definition of "best of the rest" but that phrase itself carries negative connotations.
80s: Alboreto, de Angelis, Pironi, Warwick (didn't win any races but undoubtedly a great driver at his peak)
90s: Alesi, Berger, Coulthard; Häkkinen looked this way for a long time until McLaren got it right in 1998
00s: Barrichello, Montoya, maybe Ralf Schumacher
10s: Perez, Leclerc, Ricciardo
That's not to say that each of these groups are (or were) as equally strong as each other in terms of skill and potential. And of course there are other factors as to why some drivers never made it like career choices (Alesi and Warwick not going to Williams) or politics (Warwick's move to Lotus when they were still sort of competitive was vetoed by Senna; Barrichello's obvious number two status). The 1980s was peculiar in particular because between Prost, Piquet, Senna and Mansell, it was arguably the most competitive era ever at the elite level so you might not look at their best of the rest as the most potentially talented because all of the exceptional talent actually did make it.
Simple fact is that there can only ever be one winner. Somebody's going to miss out no matter how much potential they might have. Drivers like Leclerc and Sainz still have time and I'm sure Russell will join them in terms of reputation and calibre.
A front-running driver with race-winning experience is the literal definition of "best of the rest" but that phrase itself carries negative connotations.
80s: Alboreto, de Angelis, Pironi, Warwick (didn't win any races but undoubtedly a great driver at his peak)
90s: Alesi, Berger, Coulthard; Häkkinen looked this way for a long time until McLaren got it right in 1998
00s: Barrichello, Montoya, maybe Ralf Schumacher
10s: Perez, Leclerc, Ricciardo
That's not to say that each of these groups are (or were) as equally strong as each other in terms of skill and potential. And of course there are other factors as to why some drivers never made it like career choices (Alesi and Warwick not going to Williams) or politics (Warwick's move to Lotus when they were still sort of competitive was vetoed by Senna; Barrichello's obvious number two status). The 1980s was peculiar in particular because between Prost, Piquet, Senna and Mansell, it was arguably the most competitive era ever at the elite level so you might not look at their best of the rest as the most potentially talented because all of the exceptional talent actually did make it.
Simple fact is that there can only ever be one winner. Somebody's going to miss out no matter how much potential they might have. Drivers like Leclerc and Sainz still have time and I'm sure Russell will join them in terms of reputation and calibre.
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Sure, but I don't accept "it's always been that way" as an excuse for a weakness in the sport. Sure, there will only be one winner, but when we generally know each season is between 2-3 drivers, that's pretty slim pickings. It's one of the reasons I'm not particularly fond of F1 with the "eras" which are dominated so heavily by one driver or team or manufacturer, etc.
It could be better, but as it is, a lot of talented drivers with nothing to aim for (except stumbling upon an accidental dream).
It could be better, but as it is, a lot of talented drivers with nothing to aim for (except stumbling upon an accidental dream).
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I don't see how it's different to any other "open" sport. Yes F1 has a rulebook but I mean it the same way that any sport can be dominated by someone head and shoulders above the rest, whether it be a humans natural ability (e.g. Usain Bolt) or because one team has built the best machine, or created the best team with the best manager.
The history of sport is dominated by, well, domination. How many sporting series can you NOT regularly predict the winner from one of a few? There are obviously outliers but they're rare.
The history of sport is dominated by, well, domination. How many sporting series can you NOT regularly predict the winner from one of a few? There are obviously outliers but they're rare.
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