I've driven the real thing, have you..........how should I put this..... ^^ FAIL
So have I, the difference is I don't use it to then insult other members and given the AUP here at GT Planet you should think twice about doing so in the future as well.
Now while the FM2 version of the 'ring is far, far too wide the version in FM3 is not as bad as many make it out to be, and quite frankly the version in GT5 still has some serious issues with it and is quite a way from being 99% accurate.
I would also question the members here who are saying that GT's version gets the elevation changes right, because it most certainly doesn't. In reality parts of the 'ring look like a wall of tarmac is in front of you and nothing in GT's version comes close to that.
The bottom line is that both inaccurate and accurate lap times can be obtained in both FM and GT, neither get it right with FM's being too wide in sections (which was far worse in FM2 and a lot better in FM3) and GT's messing up the elevation changes (which again improved between GT4 and GT5).
After watching the Forza 4 video again I realized something. It's WORSE than the Ring in Forza 3. They took dumbing it down to a new level.
Interesting, you appear to insist that only those who have experience of the real 'ring and its in game versions can comment on how accurate it is in games (and dismiss the opinions of those who have 'only' watched videos of the real thing. However here you seem to throw you normal standards aside and damn FM4s 'ring without having played it and without providing source material to back up your claim.
All you are offering here is inflammatory flame-bait and GT Planet has no time for this kind of behaviour or members who post it, as such I would strongly suggest that you provide some detail and evidence to back it up, and be willing to discuss it in a level-headed manner.
I don't like the look of the ring in forza. The fun for me having the Ring in a game is to have the chance at matching real life times. I kinda doubt the T10 reasons behind changing the track, maybe they did not have the time or skill to model it closer to reality. Why would T10 rape the ring like that, its not the Ring IMO if it is deliberatley modelled incorrectly for the sake of online play.
Maybe T10's new GT5 beating phyics would not show up realistic times at a close to correct a possble Nurburgring. Maybe its also why GT5 did not give us standing start at TGTT?
T10 didn't do anything initially to the 'ring. They got the assets for the 'ring in FM2 from the dev team behind PGR (after MS bought them) and used that with minor tweaks in FM2, which is why the 'ring in FM2 is quite nasty. However those assets underwent some serious work between FM2 and FM3, and the version in FM3 is much better (still not good enough - but no in-game version is and certainly none of them are the 99% that has been claimed). I can't yet state what the version in FM4 is like as I am still waiting on my copy of FM4, but once it arrives and I have some time on it I will be more than happy to post my (good or bad) opinion of it.
@ALL The bottom line here is that if you can't discuss this like grown-ups you will loose the ability to discuss it (and that doesn't mean the thread gets locked - so think about that carefully). Everyone has an opinion to bring to the discussion, those who have been to the 'ring obviously can offer a first hand view, however that doesn't mean they get to dismiss the opinions of others and to do so seriously risks action from the staff.
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I agree with you forget the turns or the width the bumps and the elevation changes are not that good either. It's all good though maybe one day T10 will go back and get it right. 👍
