Forza Motorsport 7: General Discussion

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So my guess is that 30gb on pc difference is likely those 4k assets, since the Xbox One won't have them available until the release of the X.

Yep, the actual difference is 28.61 gb. Pre-downloading now that the global system update allows it.

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Did one of the open championships with an F50 GT and had a 10 lap race of Hockenheim in the Rain as race 5. No noticeable FPS drops at all in cockpit view over 5 minutes of driving.
I just did the race he listed, with the Audi, and he is infact telling the truth. There is very much something wrong, it looks terrible.
 
I ran a race on homestead earlier in the FXX K and had AI cars screaming past me, on both straights. I think I managed to finish 9th in a 10 lap race barely as the 11th place car was about to fly by me as I crossed the start line.

So I looked at the replay. Hyper car division is limited to 1000hp the lead car was showing more than 1600hp on unbeatable. I droped the level to expert and ran it again. This time I managed 2nd place, almost got the win, was in the lead coming out the last corner but the AI car was to fast on the straight and passed me before the finish line. I looked at the replay again this time he was running a modest 1032hp.
 
I ran a race on homestead earlier in the FXX K and had AI cars screaming past me, on both straights. I think I managed to finish 9th in a 10 lap race barely as the 11th place car was about to fly by me as I crossed the start line.

So I looked at the replay. Hyper car division is limited to 1000hp the lead car was showing more than 1600hp on unbeatable. I droped the level to expert and ran it again. This time I managed 2nd place, almost got the win, was in the lead coming out the last corner but the AI car was to fast on the straight and passed me before the finish line. I looked at the replay again this time he was running a modest 1032hp.

Hold on, so they make the AI faster that what they limit you too? Is this GT's 'Chase The Rabbit' again?
 
Hold on, so they make the AI faster that what they limit you too? Is this GT's 'Chase The Rabbit' again?

Its a bug. It only happens now and then. Most of the time I win these races with ease but sometimes the AI get hyper drive and surprise ;)

GT never had a case where the AI was more powerful than the player car they just sometimes had lineups where there were one or two very fast cars in there that may start up front making them hard to catch in every case the player could get that same car and then make it even faster and win easily. Assuming of course that is what they wanted to do. I liked the challenge and kept trying until I could beat it with the Camaro race car. Then went to a Ford GT street car then a Shelby. Before long I could win that race with several different and inferior cars.
 
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Its a bug. It only happens now and then. Most of the time I win these races with ease but sometimes the AI get hyper drive and surprise ;)

GT never had a case where the AI was more powerful than the player car they just sometimes had lineups where there were one or two very fast cars in there that may start up front making them hard to catch in every case the player could get that same car and then make it even faster and win easily. Assuming of course that is what they wanted to do. I liked the challenge and kept trying until I could beat it with the Camaro race car. Then went to a Ford GT street car then a Shelby. Before long I could win that race with several different and inferior cars.

Ah okay. I just seen a video from Nick from AR12 saying when he put the game on Unbeatable, the GTX was pushing just over 2,600 hp. Is it like that only some of the time and not all the time?
 
Ah okay. I just seen a video from Nick from AR12 saying when he put the game on Unbeatable, the GTX was pushing just over 2,600 hp. Is it like that only some of the time and not all the time?

Yes I've saw this happen in maybe 6 to 8 races out of over 400 I have ran so far.

Once it happens though if you restart the race it will keep happening in that race.
It is a little annoying if you are trying to earn some quick credits but it is also kind of fun. Normally some of these races could get boring but I like the challenge of chasing em and trying to keep up, even over taking some of them. In that race on homestead it was funny. The only reason I managed to get to 10th place was due to the AI going so fast they kept hitting the wall in the corner :lol:

It is possible that the AI has been over powered in other races where I did not notice it though. Some cars are geared such that the extra power does not make them any faster just better acceleration and I only take note when there is obviously something up. If I win anyway then more fun, when I get skunked, oh well least I got an excuse ;)
 
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On Unbeatable, the AI is always faster than me in a straight line, in every race. I haven't checked horsepower, because I can see them driving away from me in the straights, in identical cars. I also verify it with the "gap" data on the HUD, showing how I can pull away out of a corner, and slowly stop pulling away, and then they start to gain back. (on long straights)

They're also always faster on Pro, but not as much. A good build and tune can overcome it sometimes.
On Expert they're around equal, and at lower difficulties they're slower.

Different cars, tracks, classes, races, etc change the amount or severity.
 
I sometimes get the names of drivers not appearing during a race. It just shows a blank box where the name is and the leval.
 
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I'll give this a try when I get home today, but my shift barely started so that's going to be a while. I use cockpit view exclusively, so it should stand out like a sore thumb for me. I'll record the results if I can, since the Xboxdvr site hasn't been uploading our stuff for some reason.

Thanks! It could be just this race, I haven't tried a Free Play version with the same parameters.
 
So my guess is that 30gb on pc difference is likely those 4k assets, since the Xbox One won't have them available until the release of the X.

I'm in the preview program and you can already enable the 4k download. My file is showing in the 90s now. I believe the Fall Update released today, so the option should be available to everyone, if 1X is in your future.

 
XOne version has "just" around 70gb, the PC is about 100gb from what I remember. Maybe it was originally going to be even bigger so they started to look for things to compromise on. Crazy, I know but It's just my silly theory. The cars having changed sounds shared across many other cars... why would they do that? LaFerrari has generic sound for example and in FM6 it has the right one.

I'm also not happy about this. It's actually happened across many cars such as the newer V12 Lambos and Ferraris, Vulcan, One-77, Zonda R just to name a few. Also upsetting is that the Skylines now sound like completely something else. Interestingly, I've yet to come across any American V8s that sound off. Coincidence? And what in heck happened to the loud bass and visceral oomph that we have in FM6 and 5? Many cars sound weak and hollow, ironically, race cars more so than anything else.

Check out the car sound thread at forzamotorport.net. Has 14 pages I think, approaching 14,000 views!

I would honestly just take about 200 cars up front if they do the sound justice.
 
If there's that many complaints about it, they'll likely fix it. FM6 did go through a similar topic and there were cars that that had their sound updated. The Vulcan to me, sounds a bit Ferrari-ish.
 
Starting to think about about the first DLC pack which should land at the start of next month-first Tuesday?

Hoping we can get some more up to date racecars such as the Audi R8 LMS GT3 or the Ferrari 488 GT3 or GTE
 
I have a question for anyone that might have the answer.. I'm planning on picking up the One X when it comes out on 11/7, but had a few questions about my game saves. I always figured they where saved to the cloud, so is it even necessary to get an HDD to transfer over files outside of saving the time to redownload all the games and whatnot? I don't want to get a One X thinking that, only to find out that I have no gamesaves.
 
I have a question for anyone that might have the answer.. I'm planning on picking up the One X when it comes out on 11/7, but had a few questions about my game saves. I always figured they where saved to the cloud, so is it even necessary to get an HDD to transfer over files outside of saving the time to redownload all the games and whatnot? I don't want to get a One X thinking that, only to find out that I have no gamesaves.

Can't say for sure anything about the one X and only have a few games on the One but I can say that at least in the case of Forza 7 I can go back and forth between the PC and Xbox and the save files get synced from the cloud when the game is started. I think this is the case with most if not all XBox 1 games so that you can log into a different XBox and still play from the point you left off somewhere else.

Edit: Now that I think about it my Xbox 1 had to be sent in for repair and came back wiped clean. I had to download and reinstall my games but the save files synced up when I started them so did not appear to loose anything
 
Can't say for sure anything about the one X and only have a few games on the One but I can say that at least in the case of Forza 7 I can go back and forth between the PC and Xbox and the save files get synced from the cloud when the game is started. I think this is the case with most if not all XBox 1 games so that you can log into a different XBox and still play from the point you left off somewhere else.

Edit: Now that I think about it my Xbox 1 had to be sent in for repair and came back wiped clean. I had to download and reinstall my games but the save files synced up when I started them so did not appear to loose anything
That's what I was figuring as well, and it's been a while since I got my Xbox One S over the base, so I couldn't exactly recall. So if anything, the HDD file transfer would just be to save time with the downloading and installing of the actual games then, I would imagine.
 
That's what I was figuring as well, and it's been a while since I got my Xbox One S over the base, so I couldn't exactly recall. So if anything, the HDD file transfer would just be to save time with the downloading and installing of the actual games then, I would imagine.
I got a 4tb external HDD for $130, it actually came yesterday. Last evening it took me about 30 minutes to transfer/copy 600-700 gb worth of games, and DLC over. That would of took me at least several days with my internet, to redownload all the games, plus I have a 250gb cap now. I was wondering about the saves too, but if you go into game management, it looks like there’s a save file for it there.

Overnight Forza 7 did the 4k update as well, so now it’s 97Gb. It’s all ready to go, alls I have to do when I get the Xb1X(three weeks from today :) ), is unplug the USB and plug it into my new console.

It’s really easy to manage game storage with an external hard drive too on XB1, it’s easy to switch from external and internal.
 
I got a 4tb external HDD for $130, it actually came yesterday. Last evening it took me about 30 minutes to transfer/copy 600-700 gb worth of games, and DLC over. That would of took me at least several days with my internet, to redownload all the games, plus I have a 250gb cap now. I was wondering about the saves too, but if you go into game management, it looks like there’s a save file for it there.

Overnight Forza 7 did the 4k update as well, so now it’s 97Gb. It’s all ready to go, alls I have to do when I get the Xb1X(three weeks from today :) ), is unplug the USB and plug it into my new console.

It’s really easy to manage game storage with an external hard drive too on XB1, it’s easy to switch from external and internal.
That's what I'm contemplating doing right now as well. I'll get the One X on the 6th around 9pm, and if I choose to not to get an external HDD then I'll be sitting there all night waiting for my stuff to download lol. I don't have much games on mine right now, so a 1TB would be more than enough for me.

Quick question, I enabled the 4k loading for my games but nothing popped up for Forza. Do I have to manually select it from somewhere? I didn't initially see it in the "Updates" section, unless I just checked too soon after accepting the changes.
 
Quick question, I enabled the 4k loading for my games but nothing popped up for Forza. Do I have to manually select it from somewhere? I didn't initially see it in the "Updates" section, unless I just checked too soon after accepting the changes.

Did it yesterday and it took about an hour to kick in after I checked the box.
 
Well, I'm choosing positivity for this one.
As am I, but I can also see how it could be taken the other way as well. I don't think Turn 10 really engages in that kind of petty Twitter sass like some other developers have in the past, though.
 

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