Forza
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McLaren F1GTR
what do you mean may only have xbox? if they don't have a ps2 why would they even bother comming to a site that is about a PS2 only game?
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I love this! The stuff cobra comes out with is classic XD. If you even HINT at some feature of ANY game being better then GT4s, Cobra will jump in, and try and rip said game apart...and usually fail. I see that Cobra has ALLREADY used his time machine to jump to april ish and play the finished build of forza and tell us what the damage is like! THANKS MATEY! But this line is the best...
If your a fan of sim racers, you will laugh at the above. Thank you cobra, you never fail to lighten my day.
Oh and...
IRONY!!
Forza looks like it's gonna be great, by the time it comes out I'll probs have finished GT4 and want some thing new to play, and forza seems to certainly offer stuff GT4 won't. 3 play garage battles for one eh eh eh eh
If your a fan of sim racers, you will laugh at the above. Thank you cobra, you never fail to lighten my day.
Oh and...
IRONY!!
Forza looks like it's gonna be great, by the time it comes out I'll probs have finished GT4 and want some thing new to play, and forza seems to certainly offer stuff GT4 won't. 3 play garage battles for one eh eh eh eh
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Yes this is not a Ethusia vs GT4 thread but I have to totally agree with you Hyde, my mouth is drooling just thinking about driving through twisty mountain roads at night in a 1v1 battle using real physics. Now the question is will the AI use drifting techniques so we can have some drift vs grip challenges. 
Hyde
Whow! This thread is huge! And its about a different game!
Can anyone tell be if Forza has the tuning capacity of GT4 (ie suspension tuning and turbo upgrades etc).
I might borrow it on XBOX one day and see how its like. It has a half decent track list.
PS looking at teh above and some of the (few) screen shots I've seen of Forza, I'd say that GT4 has realism on its side. The tyre profile on the Toyota GT1 is larger than in real life. Forza seams to have a need4speed slant to it rather than a racing simulation to (just from the pics).
Can anyone tell be if Forza has the tuning capacity of GT4 (ie suspension tuning and turbo upgrades etc).
I might borrow it on XBOX one day and see how its like. It has a half decent track list.
PS looking at teh above and some of the (few) screen shots I've seen of Forza, I'd say that GT4 has realism on its side. The tyre profile on the Toyota GT1 is larger than in real life. Forza seams to have a need4speed slant to it rather than a racing simulation to (just from the pics).
Zer0
is that a Photomode shot by the looks of it is indeed a photomode shot, looks good mind you. could you possibly post a non photoshop screenshot to see how Forza holds it's own.
I've got nothing against photomode... It's unfair when the picture is taken at a higher resoultion then "compressed" in photoshop. Which is why the screenshot you posted looks so good. If you posted a screenshot of a Gran Turismo 4 Bently, at the same distance that the Forza Motorsport one was taken. You would clearly see that Forza Motorsport is superior.
Also the dramatic lighting does help
also why is that #7 still blinding on the side of the gran turismo shot is it glow in the dark or somthing lol
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Xpand was released last year.cobragt
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- Almere /Holland
XPLOSV
to put it simpy ..they took gt3 & projectgotham2 & need4speed underground2
added some real tuning parts (bodykits from C-west/ Veilside/Bomex/wingsWest) (suspension Koni/Tein/Bilstein) (Turbo and engine HKS/APEX/AEM/G REDDY)
so yes! Forza has the tuning capacity of GT4 and more !
but the game yust handles like "soft ****"
it's from the same people who brought you project gotham.. 👎
From what I've heard so far their physics are supposed to be more simulation based than GT4 which is a good thing.
Reading that either Kaz or some other PD spokesperson said that the realism in Enthusia Racing might be overdone put me off a bit and made me expect ER so much more than before.
Reading that either Kaz or some other PD spokesperson said that the realism in Enthusia Racing might be overdone put me off a bit and made me expect ER so much more than before.
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I am not a GT fanboy, however, when push comes to shove, GT4 isn't as bad as you think. This is an in-game shot.
- 3,420
Judging from the forza demo, the physics are marginally better than gt3's. Ofcourse that's just a democode_kevI love this! The stuff cobra comes out with is classic XD. If you even HINT at some feature of ANY game being better then GT4s, Cobra will jump in, and try and rip said game apart...and usually fail. I see that Cobra has ALLREADY used his time machine to jump to april ish and play the finished build of forza and tell us what the damage is like! THANKS MATEY! But this line is the best...
If your a fan of sim racers, you will laugh at the above. Thank you cobra, you never fail to lighten my day.
Oh and...
IRONY!!
Forza looks like it's gonna be great, by the time it comes out I'll probs have finished GT4 and want some thing new to play, and forza seems to certainly offer stuff GT4 won't. 3 play garage battles for one eh eh eh eh
- 3,420
Dynamic lighting? That lighting you see is ingame, PM doesn't add dynamic lightingFrontis that a Photomode shot by the looks of it is indeed a photomode shot, looks good mind you. could you possibly post a non photoshop screenshot to see how Forza holds it's own.
I've got nothing against photomode... It's unfair when the picture is taken at a higher resoultion then "compressed" in photoshop. Which is why the screenshot you posted looks so good. If you posted a screenshot of a Gran Turismo 4 Bently, at the same distance that the Forza Motorsport one was taken. You would clearly see that Forza Motorsport is superior.
Also the dramatic lighting does help
also why is that #7 still blinding on the side of the gran turismo shot is it glow in the dark or somthing lol
you know gt4 supports 1080i so expect the game to be at a nice little resolution and ofcourse it wont look as smoot as the pic above but that high-res look will be present but as you know, jaggies will be present but not as noticable as they use to be http://www.gamesmediamirror.com/leech_1070_en.html now mind you that vid might be gt4 in 480p and ofcourse it's compressed but there isn't a jag problem. Can't wait to see gt4 in 1080i. Pics, vids, whatever, gt4's visuals are just better than forza's. I know forza has the nice textures and detail but what's all that without realistic light illumination? This is where gt4 shines, light illumination, which gives it that realistic look. Forza looks very fake in comparsion to gt4.*sighs* I dunno, this debate about graphics in my mind seems kinda pointless. The difference between GT4 and Forza seems to be the difference between 'great' and 'outstanding'. I don't think either of them can be complained about.
I also think it's quite silly when nobody's played the final game of Forza and very few have played GT4. Don't bother bringing up previous games and demos, those really just give a little glimpse of the finished game.
And personally, still pictures don't really give a full impression of a game. Believability comes from seeing the car move.
I also think it's quite silly when nobody's played the final game of Forza and very few have played GT4. Don't bother bringing up previous games and demos, those really just give a little glimpse of the finished game.
And personally, still pictures don't really give a full impression of a game. Believability comes from seeing the car move.
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code_kev
I agree. Forza's graphics are extremely good, however, the coloring of the textures seems to have a small cartoon feel to it. Now, this could be something that they plan on fixing, but as of now, this is what is being judged by everyone.
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- JDA1982
GT4's lighting is very limited in terms of when real time lighting is used, for example the lights from your cars headlights arn't real time, they don't light up anything all there is is a textured glow on the road right under them. Forza's lighting seems to me more complex, but that doesn't mean it's correct, however I find it's very hard to judge if it's the lighting or tyhe textures in some Forza pics. As for theGT4 and Fora pics posted before, it's a pointless comparison, the Speed 8 in the Forza pic is up close and well lit, in the GT4 pic it's too dark to see if it's as detailed and it's a photomode pic to boot. GT4's 1080 mode doesn't givce GT4 a large boost in graphics, it mealry smooths the verticla textures. As for the Bentles number on it's side, they reflect light so you can see them clear at night, a couple of cars in GT3 had numbers that did that too like the RX-7 LM, it's not that hard to do.
This is kinda pointless Cobra will just come back with things he doe's not understand
my global illumination is better than yours..... *nee neer nee neer*
it's got nothing to do with the global illumination it's the texturing and the refelctive properites of the cars that are impressive about Gran Turismo 4 although the "real time" refections are slightly dissapointing in Gran Turismo 4.
The model detail that really impresses me about Forza Motorsport the ammount of detail in the cars also.
for example
The exaust pipes are actually reflecting the paint work and the venturi underneath, and also note the self shadowing properies of the cars another nice touch.
Again this is a clear example of how both these products excel in different areas.
my global illumination is better than yours..... *nee neer nee neer*
it's got nothing to do with the global illumination it's the texturing and the refelctive properites of the cars that are impressive about Gran Turismo 4 although the "real time" refections are slightly dissapointing in Gran Turismo 4.
The model detail that really impresses me about Forza Motorsport the ammount of detail in the cars also.
for example
The exaust pipes are actually reflecting the paint work and the venturi underneath, and also note the self shadowing properies of the cars another nice touch.
Again this is a clear example of how both these products excel in different areas.
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- Cuddington, Cheshire
- JDA1982
The Speed 8 in Forza seems more detailed in that shot now the GT4 one has been enlarged. What you think of the lighting keep to yourself because the GT4 shot is too dark to make a proper judgment or comparison, but I do see alot more detain in the front of the Speed 8 in the Forza shot.
- 3,420
I see some of you dont know what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about lighting effects like head lights what not, I'm talking about the light that illuminates on the cars and tracks, it's very convincing. Color usage is important, no doubt but lighting is a whole lot more important for realistic visuals. Yes yes, I know forza has the detail set but it doesn't make up for the unrealistic visuals, sorry. Gt4 looks every bit more realistic than forza, there's no way around it. And while forza's cars have more polys, gt4's cars still look better.
