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that vid that front posted wasn't cool.

It has no merits, because none of the footage contains useful information, and the bragging and swaggering is irritating to say the least.

Not to mention it takes everything out of context and fuels both sides of the fanboy factions
 
tha_con
How am I supposed to accept your entire post as educated and knowledgable when you don't even understand percentages?

2% is .002? um...no it's not? .2 is 2%....

You can call me on BS all you want, but until you make sense, or even come across with anything logical, then yes.

Just the tire model and suspension model can tax the system, because it's doing it for 8 different cars, as well as running the physics engine, and is capable of running multiple styles of AI at the same time. This means the forza engine can load multiple sets of AI and run them at the same time, this is pretty hard on the system.

Understand ALL of the game, before you make assumptions.

Jesus ****ing christ! I spelled it out for you in the original post. I said .2% not 2% . I went further and spelled out as point 2 percent. And holy ****, 2% is .02!!!! not .2. You have absolutely no clue of how complex of algorithims they are actually having the xbox process. You do not have any idea what you are talking about and you are being completely hypocritical.


Edit: Sorry for being so pissed off but, damn....
 
There have been many problems with "LIVE" play the "latency" aspect should not be entered into the equation as that should be catered for in the programming, having played every on-line release to date the only game to get it spot-on is MGP2, 16 players(occasional lag/catered for) everything works. As for bad releases try the first TOCA "LIVE", after emailing CODEMASTERS they recommended a 2meg UPLOAD! required to host 12 players(that equates to a T1 connection). SEGA GT unbelievable lag, 3+ seconds in team racing, making it unplayable, INDYCAR 2005 don't even ask, abysmal. I realise "latency" will affect gaming but not to the degree certain titles are obviously affected, it's got a great deal to do with programming, jeez in some of the pre-game lobby's the voice will break up, so what chance does that hold out for a decent race?
If a "tap" leaks you get a plumber not a joiner(he does doors)
jOe :) :)
 
Gek, let it go. it doesn't really matter that your right were talking about Forza here and Tha_con is trying to give us his opinion, and that post you quoted was from the other day.
 
live4speed
Gek, let it go. it doesn't really matter that your right were talking about Forza here and Tha_con is trying to give us his opinion, and that post you quoted was from the other day.

The other day? The problem was he was stating his opinion as a fact and his only reason for this was that Forza has an advanced tire model that he has been told about and he believes it some how must max out the xbox leaving no room for a simple TFF apu.
 
I didn't mean he was stating his opnion there, I meant he was on Forza. Anyhow, theres been enough posts agreeing with you and explaining why since that post I'm sure the next time Tha_con is in here he'll be cool with it, he's quite level headed.

And yes it was that post was the other day over here, in fact it was almost 24 hours ago now.
 
kinigitt
that vid that front posted wasn't cool.

It has no merits, because none of the footage contains useful information, and the bragging and swaggering is irritating to say the least.

Not to mention it takes everything out of context and fuels both sides of the fanboy factions

OK 1st off, the Video compared a Z06 from 2001 to a 2005 C6, They do not sound anywhere near the same.

2nd, the video failed to show that Forza has some ****ty crap in it too. The video of Car you CAN drive in GT only showed slow ones.

This is to whoever made the video,

"Hey, stupid, You neglect to mention that in GT3, some of the cars you can only drive in GT3 were the Mazda 787B, Ruf RGT, which is faster than a Porsche, and a Jaguar XJ220. I have yet to see the XJ220 make an appearence in Forza.

And GT4 features the Cizect W16, faster than a Ferrari, Spyker C8, and more.
Better stop being a biased fanboy."
 
McLaren F1GTR
OK 1st off, the Video compared a Z06 from 2001 to a 2005 C6, They do not sound anywhere near the same.

2nd, the video failed to show that Forza has some ****ty crap in it too. The video of Car you CAN drive in GT only showed slow ones.

This is to whoever made the video,

"Hey, stupid, You neglect to mention that in GT3, some of the cars you can only drive in GT3 were the Mazda 787B, Ruf RGT, which is faster than a Porsche, and a Jaguar XJ220. I have yet to see the XJ220 make an appearence in Forza.

And GT4 features the Cizect W16, faster than a Ferrari, Spyker C8, and more.
Better stop being a biased fanboy."

XJ220:

http://media.xbox.ign.com/media/682/682857/img_2567726.html

some pretty screens:

http://media.xbox.ign.com/media/682/682857/img_2557910.html
 
McLaren F1GTR
OK 1st off, the Video compared a Z06 from 2001 to a 2005 C6, They do not sound anywhere near the same.

2nd, the video failed to show that Forza has some ****ty crap in it too. The video of Car you CAN drive in GT only showed slow ones.

This is to whoever made the video,

"Hey, stupid, You neglect to mention that in GT3, some of the cars you can only drive in GT3 were the Mazda 787B, Ruf RGT, which is faster than a Porsche, and a Jaguar XJ220. I have yet to see the XJ220 make an appearence in Forza.

And GT4 features the Cizect W16, faster than a Ferrari, Spyker C8, and more.
Better stop being a biased fanboy."

I don't think this was meant to be a serious comparison, if it was then you are probably right in some of your observations, but I don't think so :)
 
McLaren F1GTR
OK, I was wrong. There is an XJ220. However, if that is a Ford GT, it is UGLY!

Are you talking about the yellow one? Isn't that the 1966 Ford GT40?

Beautiful old car! Not quite as sleek as the new one but beautiful! Or are you talking about the Forza modelling?
 
vilante
Are you talking about the yellow one? Isn't that the 1966 Ford GT40?

Beautiful old car! Not quite as sleek as the new one but beautiful! Or are you talking about the Forza modelling?

the screen does make it look rather clumsy. but it isn't the ford GT, it's the 66 GT40 like you said.
 

Tha_con, Were did you go? Your Forza information was so good. Posted here, copied to forzacentral, then you came to answer a few questions. You became an instant hero to us!

Then you go silent. :indiff: Do not tell us your roommates are keeping you from this new Forza build. Please, throw us a bone! We promise to try and stop posting the link to that goofy GT-4 vz. Forza parody. (Yes, it was meant as HUMOR, I assume. I had nothing to do with it, but thought is was funny!)

If bribes are neccesary, let us know what your 'virtual lager' of choice is. I am sure we will do whatever it takes. :)

Also, can you give a little of your background info. Who do you write for, have you beta tested (and for what. . . ) blah-blah-blah

Cheers !
~ Two Red Eyed (TRE)


 
McLaren F1GTR
And GT4 features the Cizect W16, faster than a Ferrari.
I feel I have to point out how wrong that statement is in the context that your comaring the Cizeta to Forza's Ferrari selection is daft especially when Forza has the Enzo. Besides that the Cizeta is only fast in a straight line, round corners they understeer like a brick wagon.
 
live4speed
I feel I have to point out how wrong that statement is in the context that your comaring the Cizeta to Forza's Ferrari selection is daft especially when Forza has the Enzo. Besides that the Cizeta is only fast in a straight line, round corners they understeer like a brick wagon.

the cizeta is a big tank.
 
I've seen GT40's and the back of that one looks wrong, and ugly.


OK, Forza has the Enzo, yes. But it seems some people only want Forza instead of GT4 for its car list having Ferrari and Porsche. If that's all they care about, they need to play NFS, but they probably already do.


However, the vid Front posted was very wrong comparing a 2001 Z06 to a 2005 C6. They sound almost nothing alike.
 
But theres no denying the sounds in Forza are better than in GT, the engine noises in GT IMO have always sounded a bit flat.
 
The vids look pretty good...
As good as any other vids you are going to see.
It's too hard to tell from just a clip.
I see little snips of GT4 on TechTV sometimes and it looks ultra slick.
I have seen one small segment on Forza several times, and I first thought it looked like SegaGT mixed with Gran Turismo 3.
When I played the Foprza demo, it was on an LCD in the kiosk, and those things always look like total crap refreshing at like 24h or something.
Impossible to really tell there, too.
 
DevilGTx
The vids look pretty good...
As good as any other vids you are going to see.
It's too hard to tell from just a clip.
I see little snips of GT4 on TechTV sometimes and it looks ultra slick.
I have seen one small segment on Forza several times, and I first thought it looked like SegaGT mixed with Gran Turismo 3.
When I played the Foprza demo, it was on an LCD in the kiosk, and those things always look like total crap refreshing at like 24h or something.
Impossible to really tell there, too.

the forza demo isnt much to look at, but man is it fun.My fave car is theEVO 8 with all assists save abs turned off. The way the tires scrub off grip at the limit, the way the body shifts its weight around. bliss.
 
Sorry, been gone playing GT4 and Forza, between the two games, and work (I'm also in the Army) it's kinda hard to get all my play time in AND post up here when I have to write impressions on these games and comparisons yada yada.

Anyway, Right now I'm working on a GT4 guide, as well as an In-Depth Forza Preview which will feature a LOT of information about forza, etc, and be very beefy. So everyone hold tight and I'll bring back more info in the coming week.
 
tha_con
Sorry, been gone playing GT4 and Forza, between the two games, and work (I'm also in the Army) it's kinda hard to get all my play time in AND post up here when I have to write impressions on these games and comparisons yada yada.

Anyway, Right now I'm working on a GT4 guide, as well as an In-Depth Forza Preview which will feature a LOT of information about forza, etc, and be very beefy. So everyone hold tight and I'll bring back more info in the coming week.

Thankyou, can't wait to see it :)
 
I have done some more playing with the Forzademo today and the fantastic realistic physics provide a very rich drivingexperience. It's quite amazing. there's so much going on during a hot lap. It's hard to describe all the details but you feel everything like in real life : oversteer, understeer, the way the tires lose and regain grip, the way the car moves,not only on its suspension but also the movement of the tires etc... and it remains very playable and loads of fun. It really gives you the feeling of controlling a light overpowered racecar on the edge.
 
Double_R
Xbox Is Poo :)

I Hope Forza Is Good Though Cause Then I Will Buy An Xbox ;)

Man, I'm a PS2 owner and I don't have an Xbox and still I find fanboy-isms like this beyond annoying. 👎
 
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