Forza3 can't be compared with GT5....
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Not that I'm aware of.
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Its for the best anyway. They probably wouldn't restrict it to the dragstrip. Thus we'd have unrealistic use of nitrous in circuit racing. Think you've been having a great race with one guy, and its going to come down to you holding him off on the final stretch? Not when he runs a 100 shot of nitrous and pulls right by you to win.
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Nitrous isn't that big a deal. Frankly, I never used it - well, I take that back, I used it in one race I was spending too much time on in GT4, but that was it. I prefer the idea of upgrading the car legitimately and pitting your tuning skillz against others, not relying on some joy juice to do half the work for you.
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Nitrous isn't...legitimate?
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Not all use N2o on the circuits (I never have). It mainly comes into play on the dragstrip and when PD only has few modifications available for certain cars which limits the power available. Like the '69 Camaro, which I've equiped with N2o.
I think its just as legitimate as any other forced induction.
Serves the same exact purpose as turbines and blowers.
Forces a small engine to breath like a big engine, and a big engine to breath like an even more massive one.
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But its not realistic for circuit racing, and we don't know that Turn10 would've limited it just to the strip. And if they added that they would feel obligated to add drag slicks and all the other drag strip goodies that we want, which they were not going to be included.
Found on youtube: Shift vs Forza 3, Laguna Seca in car view, HD graphics comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIPZ1BGVpps
interesting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIPZ1BGVpps
interesting
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You need to be more focused. People usually understand what they are doing and why
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Actually I'm with Terronium. I watched it because you posted it and said it was interesting... yet I do not see what is interesting or understand why I should be watching it. Perhaps you can enlighten us to what is interesting?
All it shows me is that the AI in SHIFT blocked him after he ran into them, and the interior view actually looks a bit nicer in SHIFT.
Obviously this is graphics comparison. Interesting because Shift is the best looking racing game on PC and without direct comparison it's hard to say.
Any other comparisons like physics are not possible by watching videos. Any video comparisons are all about graphics.
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Well its not *that* obvious. You could be comparing AI behaviour, since its over the same section of track you could be comparing track accuracy, or vehicle behaviour to certain actions. And though you can't do an accurate comparison of physics from a video, certain physics features can be observed in a video. Also its hard to do a graphics comparison on a youtube video, even a HD one has a lot of compression artifacts. I can tell you now, SHIFT looks a lot better than that on my PC. So its far from "obvious" it was graphics you meant when you said it was interesting.
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How about tyre damage?
Some didn't like the way how quickly tyres were shredded in GT4 - but I loved the feature. It forced one to balance the tuning and the tactical decisions involved were huge fun, especially in endurance races (which deserved the name in GT4).
In FM2 you could basically jump to the Race Avons and tune the hell out of a car without any real impact on tyre wear in the usual 5 lap online races.
How are things in FM3 (vs GT5P)?
Some didn't like the way how quickly tyres were shredded in GT4 - but I loved the feature. It forced one to balance the tuning and the tactical decisions involved were huge fun, especially in endurance races (which deserved the name in GT4).
In FM2 you could basically jump to the Race Avons and tune the hell out of a car without any real impact on tyre wear in the usual 5 lap online races.
How are things in FM3 (vs GT5P)?
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Well, of course there was tyre wear in FM2, but I always felt that this was mainly because of the choice of tyre compound - not actual tuning parameters such as Toe and Camber and pressure, which I feel should have the most noticeable and immediate impact.
But then again pit stops were nothing FM bothered about that much.
Graphics are a very important factor for me: not the polygon count or the resolution, but the actual look and style. Subject to taste, but nevertheless, being a "sim" is never a good excuse for dull graphics in my book.
But then again pit stops were nothing FM bothered about that much.
Graphics are a very important factor for me: not the polygon count or the resolution, but the actual look and style. Subject to taste, but nevertheless, being a "sim" is never a good excuse for dull graphics in my book.
It is a sim though, and the look and style = realism, and the only way forward with realism is to send poly counts and resolution through the roof.
If it was a stylized game, like Halfbrick Rocket Racers (for the love of god buy this game, it's like super smash bros multiplayer epics in a racing game), or CTR or whatever, then it can get away with the vehicle being very low poly and lower resolution.
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Polycount only matters for replays. When you're driving, it's the physics that matter more.
I'd like to remind some people... the most expensive sims in the world, full-immersion flight-sims used by the Air Force and various airlines, have graphic displays with terribly poly-counts and low texture-mapping detail. Instead, they spend an awful lot of computing power on physics and simulation of all the mechanical bits of the aircraft.
I've sat in numerous industrial-level sims... the most sophisticated graphics I've seen, so far, can be more easily compared to Counterstrike than "Far Cry"... and no, we're not talking Counterstrike Source here... we're talking about Counterstrike Beta 6...
I'd like to remind some people... the most expensive sims in the world, full-immersion flight-sims used by the Air Force and various airlines, have graphic displays with terribly poly-counts and low texture-mapping detail. Instead, they spend an awful lot of computing power on physics and simulation of all the mechanical bits of the aircraft.
I've sat in numerous industrial-level sims... the most sophisticated graphics I've seen, so far, can be more easily compared to Counterstrike than "Far Cry"... and no, we're not talking Counterstrike Source here... we're talking about Counterstrike Beta 6...
