Forza3 Definitive Trailer: AKA Why we are better than GT5 w Pro Racer Testimonials.

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So was he, Bugatti Spa and Bugatti S.A.S. are two different companies, Ettore Bugatti was the founder of Bugatti Spa, the Veyron is built by Bugatti S.A.S. They share a logo but since one of the companies is extinct there is no livensing conflict.

Actually, Bugatti SpA was founded by Italian Romano Artioli in the 1980s and this is where we got the EB110 from. Bugatti SAS was the third rendition of the Bugatti brand. Your point still stands though -- all three companies are unrelated beyond the brand name, essentially.
 
bogie,

you said gamers do not care about blu ray, or wifi etc when comparing the ps3 to the 360. i am telling you cannot have an arcade equivalent of the ps3. that's why your comparing of both situations are totally irrelevant. Gamers who don't care about features does not make it justifable to compare a 360 to a ps3. The 360 is still the most expensive console with so many expensive proprietary stuff attached to it.

oh by the way stop acting as a beacon of light and fairness. for someone who pretends to hate MS you do a pretty job of defending all things Xbox. Go on. No one is going to hold it against you.:lol:

I just found this "review" of Forza 3 over at top gear!!!

http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/top-gear-forza-3/

C.

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Christ. It took 4 posts there for someone to blame Sony...
 
Christ. It took 4 posts there for someone to blame Sony...

Indeed and if you read through the thread I started it didn't take long before the usual suspects started laying into me. Like I said in the thread im very disappointed Turn 10 haven't sorted the floating cars out.

Im as popular as swine flu on the Forza forums at the moment.:crazy:
 
That thread is so funny. The BBC/PD and Sony conspiring against FM3. And I don't think they really landed on the Moon either.

Floating cars? That's exactly why I don't like FM. If these guys can't sense it, there's no hope for them, but I guess we know that already!!!
 
When things go a bit pear-shaped, the impacts feel nice and solid. But strangely enough, when things are going smoothly, it can feel a bit too, well, smooth. It almost feels like you're driving some kind of magic carpet, hovering just above the track itself. A real feeling of movement and feedback is difficult for a game to accurately create, admittedly, but we couldn't help but feel slightly detached.

They still haven't gotten that fixed, eh?
 
Both companies continue to release shoddy ass products, and that is completely unacceptable in my opinion.





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Only just noticed your above comment.

I cannot disagree with your comment about Sony enough. I love Sony products, I have a Sony HDTV, Surround system, PS3 and all of these are top quality products which never fail on me. This cannot be said for MS considering im on my 4th 360 console in the space of 3yrs.

Ever since I upgraded my PS3 HDD to 320GB HDD the PS3 has come alive for me and the 360 seems like cheap, plastic, crap. If GT5 is released in Dec I can guarantee my 360 will be traded in and my xbox live subscription cancelled.

Looking into the future and if MS don't act by releasing a new console in the next few years then they are in trouble. As im an old fogie i've been playing video games since the 1980s and I even remember the ZX81, Zx Spectrum. Since those days we have gone from cassette tapes, cartridge, CD, DVD and now Blu ray. The problem for MS is developers may need to release 360 games with multiple DVDs and because the 360 only has 120GB HDD, storage space could become an issue. However for PS3 owners this is no concern what with Blu ray and how easily and cheap it is to upgrade your HDD.

The problem for MS is they believe the future is digital downloading. Well they are right in some respects but this won't succeed for another 10yrs. The simple reason is only a minority have a fast enough connection to make full use of this. However how many people would want to download 20GB with a 3mb download connection. The average download speed in the UK is 3mb!

Sony have been really clever in developing the PS3 and its almost as though they could see into the future. The 360 was developed with short term thinking compared to the PS3. I love trying to look into the future and how video gaming might change and I have come to this conclusion. If MS don't release a new console ASAP just watch how the PS3 will become dominant in the next 1-3yrs. Im afraid Software updates and Project Natal will not stem the PS3 tidal wave!
 
Christ. It took 4 posts there for someone to blame Sony...

Don't you just love these people....

If the review is biased or not remains to be seen but there is a 100% chance that the GT5 review will be biased beyond belief.

I mean, really?

Is there any real worth in actually joining that forum if you don't hail Forza and all of it's successors thereof? :odd:

EDIT: Honestly, I'm half enticed just to make an account just to call everyone out on their allegiance to a friggin' video game. It's a video game is it giving you lovin' in return?
 
I'm not sure why I clicked on that link but I got a real kick out of this comment: I actually find the opposite regarding Forza and "floating like on a magic carpet". I feel more attached to the road in Forza 2 compared to what Gran Tourismo Prologue feels like, especially when a car gets airborne.

Correct me if I'm wrong but a car shouldn't feel more attached to the road when it is airborne should it?
 
I'm not sure why I clicked on that link but I got a real kick out of this comment: I actually find the opposite regarding Forza and "floating like on a magic carpet". I feel more attached to the road in Forza 2 compared to what Gran Tourismo Prologue feels like, especially when a car gets airborne.

Correct me if I'm wrong but a car shouldn't feel more attached to the road when it is airborne should it?
You can see that he doesn't even know the proper name of the game...
 
and what about some of them claiming that PD paid Clarkson and BBC to bash Forza..? :lol:
1st page right? I laughed my ass off when I saw that

what about the other one saying "to hell with top gear, I like fifth gear more anyway"
 
I think Ferrari Challenge also suffers from this gliding over the track feeling. GT5p feels pretty well connected to me, only game i think feels moe connected is Rfactor.
I can't believe there was that thread saying Ferrari Challenge feels better and has better physics. I certainly don't think so, yes it's harder than GT but definately not more realistic.
Just look at pretty much any FC video and you will see what i mean, like the cars is skating smoothly over the surface.

To be honest i think it could have something to do with the FOV in part, the FOV seems to make the road look like it's driving under you as oppossed to you driving down the road, this is probably what gives FC its sense of high speed and why GT feels slow.

Edit: Also notice the slack slow reacting camera, something Forza 3 also has, in GT5 the camera is pretty much fixed in the horizontal direction, i believe this could play a major part in feeling disconnected.





compared to GT5's FOV and much tighter camera

 
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well, if they want slower, heavier, nanny-laden luxury sedan to go with their smooth flying carpet game, I have nothing against it :lol:
 
I don't even know what half of that dribble means over at that fanboy-infused forum.

EDIT: Yet another golden thread, albeit this one seems to a little more civilized...

http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/thread/2838657.aspx

Part of me hopes it is in, part of me doesn't. The Veyron is a fan-boy car and while it may make 1000hp from the factory, I am not impressed. For the cost of the car I don't think it's worth it in a performance aspect. I could care less about luxury and accessories myself. I hope it's in the game though, because everyone who drives it is like they're king *** is going to be VERY upset when they lose to something else ;)
 
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Oh dear..

I've just read the thread over on FM.NET and the last few pages of this thread, and it's quite obvious you are all as bad as each other..

And to be fair, I can't find any threads over there where people are taking quotes from this forum and pointing and laughing..

Never mind though, I am an old git who really can't be bothered with the idiocy of taking sides and belittling the competition in a childish manner so I guess I'll just bite my tongue on this one.

The SRT GT5p Vs FM2 review had a lot of odd comments from people calling of bias and unfairness etc, seems most people don't like criticism when it's aimed at their pet game.

Indeed and if you read through the thread I started it didn't take long before the usual suspects started laying into me. Like I said in the thread im very disappointed Turn 10 haven't sorted the floating cars out.

Im as popular as swine flu on the Forza forums at the moment.
Obviously you can't see it, but you are acting almost as bad as SR was over here...
I really do not understand why you would even have an account over there, I can see two threads you've started, both are just laying down obvious reactionary negativity, it's borderline trolling, and not really very clever at all.

Lets see if it all dies down after Gamescom, I really want to participate on both forums if I can, but really more about discussing the individual games, and leaving the 'vs' stuff to the teenagers..
 
Phil what do you want to discuss about? They're writing funny things, I'll laugh if i want to...
 
Phil what do you want to discuss about? They're writing funny things, I'll laugh if i want to...

Yeah in all honesty, if anythig it's quite apt. I mean the main starting point of this thread revolves around Forza making stupid claims and having digs at GT.
Though i must admit im not part of this whole Fanboy ordeal, the most logical position to take is a neutral one, that way you can have true unbiassed conversation. I mean if Forza 3 suddenly released a load of new footage that i felt blew GT away, i'd be over there, i'm not going to be Sony's lapdog.
 
Please stop trying to back track. You fully implied Forza 3 may get the Bugatti license just because they have the track. There is a key word in your post that tells us this. You used the word as a conjunction.

Whatever works for ya man.

bogie,

you said gamers do not care about blu ray, or wifi etc when comparing the ps3 to the 360. i am telling you cannot have an arcade equivalent of the ps3. that's why your comparing of both situations are totally irrelevant. Gamers who don't care about features does not make it justifable to compare a 360 to a ps3. The 360 is still the most expensive console with so many expensive proprietary stuff attached to it.

oh by the way stop acting as a beacon of light and fairness. for someone who pretends to hate MS you do a pretty job of defending all things Xbox. Go on. No one is going to hold it against you.:lol:



:lol:

ROFL. This guy is a hoot. I am keeping this quote in my favs. Laugh of the day. :D

Only just noticed your above comment.

I cannot disagree with your comment about Sony enough.!

That's fine. I have had 2 Sony digital camera's stop working. A tweeter in one Sony speaker and a woofer in the other Sony tower just stop working, a Sony WEGA Trintron tube go bad in less than 2 years ($450 to repair my $1500 TV at that time).

Microsoft, I went through 4 Xbox 360s, a DS 80 PC sound system where the USB port stopped working, the Microsoft MN wireless network adapter for my PC, and an original Zune that stopped working after about a year and a half.

Sony and MS make garbage for the most part in my experience.

I couldn't disagree with your comment more than you can imagine.
 
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The reliability of electronic goods are very variable between owner to owner, no matter what brand. I've seen 360s outlast some PS3s. It's just the luck of the draw.
 
I wonder how many cookies were cleared to skew those results, lol. I imagine some rabid fans out there trying to knock each side up further and further.
 
That's is very true but some electrical gear have inherent faults for example a Sony DVP-S725D dvd player, someone who has bought one of these knows what i'm talking about.
 
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