Gran Turismo 6 coming to PS3

[Saidur_Ali]

http://www.linkedin.com/company/13609?trk=tyah

201-500 but I've seen 240-250 mentioned elsewhere.

If PDI had that many by now why wouldn't they say so?

I think all the top Sony first party studios grow in size together, they seem to always be similar in size, so now I would think everyone part of the top Sony Worldwide studios will be around the 200 mark.

PDI's website has been showing as approximately 110 employees since 2007, I guess they just haven't bothered to update the numbers. I think Kaz said in 2008 they had about 150 people working on GT5 and we know they have expanded like the rest of the first party studios since then.

 

[Nismo34]

I think all the top Sony first party studios grow in size together, they seem to always be similar in size, so now I would think everyone part of the top Sony Worldwide studios will be around the 200 mark.

PDI's website has been showing as approximately 110 employees since 2007, I guess they just haven't bothered to update the numbers. I think Kaz said in 2008 they had about 150 people working on GT5 and we know they have expanded like the rest of the first party studios since then.

They seem to update the rest of their website accordingly, including their new offices and job openings and whatnot, why wouldn't they change the employee count if they had really expanded in numbers?

 

[Saidur_Ali]

They seem to update the rest of their website accordingly, including their new offices and job openings and whatnot, why wouldn't they change the employee count if they had really expanded in numbers?

Like I said they probably can't be bothered on that side of things, their capital is still the same on website since 2007.

 

[Prototyp3]

It would be interesting to know how many people PD is composed of. We may never know the exact number but still.

 

[Scaff]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/25/every-sony-owned-studio-is-working-on-ps4-games

Polyphony Digital is almost certainly working on Gran Turismo 6 for PS4.

PD Is almost certainly working on a GT title for the PS4, doesn't mean to say it has to be GT6.

A possibility I've not seen aired is that PD have been working on GT6 alongside the DLC production and its close to being ready, as such a small element of PD could be finalising GT6 on the PS3 while the bulk of the team have moved onto GT7 (or GT7) for the PS4.

Truth is that we have nothing from Sony on this aside from an off-hand comment from the SCEE SVP saying that GT6 is a PS3 title; he could be right, he could have misspoken, we simply at this stage don't know.

What I will say in regard to launch sales of the PS4, I very much doubt that GT-whatever would make that big an impact on the sales, even the PS3 (without a GT title and with a high price tag) managed to sell-out. Sony don't really need a GT title to drive units in the early days of the PS4, they need it around 6 months to a year into it to keep the initial sale once the early adapters (who will buy it anyway) have been exhausted.

 

[brunooow]

Am i the only one that thinks that GT6 will be released for both PS3 and PS4???

 

[United6694]

I think GT6 on PS3 makes sense...

Look at GTA, number 5 is coming out on the PS3 (is it not) surely Rockstar must have known about the PS4 yet decided for PS3 so whats to say that PD wouldn't have thought the same?

 

[McLaren]

Gran Turismo has always been a system seller. Sure, the initial install base will be small, but if there's a Gran Turismo, millions will buy the console just to play the game.

Millions probably will, but not the same amount that bought GT5 after the some of the ridiculous decisions PD made with it.

It would be smarter for Sony to make sure GT6 is on PS4 close to the launch period, even if it's a GT3 scenario. At this point there's no need to bother with another GT release on PS3 if it's not going to bring anything new to the franchise.

It doesn't need to be released at all, then. The next title needs to completely restructure itself.

 

[GTPorsche]

It's not going to be restructured on PS3, that's for sure.

 

[ElementRacer]

Well look how late GTA5 is being released. There's still loads of potential on the ps3.

 

[05XR8]

Is it viable to have GT6 downloadable as was revealed about keeping the games you want? Will discs still be available to purchase? If only Sony games are available on BluRay the shelves will look plenty empty. If GT6 is for PS3 does that keep consumers happy and stocks(Shareholders) up? No doubt if a GT title for PS4 comes out less than 2years from Dec 2013, GTPS3 users will have upgraded to a PS4( mind you, I don't know the numbers, am not speaking for the majority and only going off 'what if's?).

 

[Samus]

Well look how late GTA5 is being released. There's still loads of potential on the ps3.

Yes but once again, that and all of the other big PS3 games coming out this year are already announced and have been for some time. GT6 is not, which is why it's rather odd for it to be coming out on PS3.

 

[MeanElf]

Regarding the PD teams, I know it's all speculation short of camping outside the offices and doing head-counts...but who is to say that the two titles they are working on are 6 and 7.

There is also the possibility of the one team closing up GT5 with a spec III package, whilst the other works on GT6 (wherever it ends up being launched on.) The teams could then merge again. complete 6 and start work on 7 after a suitable time.

There has also been a fair amount of talk recently about how much quicker any future GT title will be to create, so I don't get all this talk about how smaller teams will make it take far longer. They also have a lot of the grunt work done.

Even if 6 is based on 5 and is for the PS3 they would only need to give all tracks weather and time change, add some more cars, possibly re-vamping A-spec and go with it. If it goes to the PS4 then the easier system coding will speed things up immensely and that will also apply to the future games.

I'm still not saying that I think it will be on the PS3 - just pointing out options and reminding folks that even the simplest situation can be far more complex than at first might seem to be the case

 

[diegorborges]

If they are doing a PS4 title, it should at least be easier (and faster?) to develop, according to the new architecture, PC-based... so the 110 employee structure will be more efficient.

What could make easier the idea of 2 different games, GT6 for PS3 and something else (GT7?) for PS4.

Because the framework and everything is already working on the PS3, a PS4 game will demand a complete change...

But again, assets are useful for any system so it would take less time to estabilish a PS4 game, if its really that easier to work with.

 

[tube chaser]

For starters I reckon as GT fans we may be biased in our analysis of this news. Our series is incredibly important to us, but doesn't exactly define the PlayStation experience. http://www.vgchartz.com/platform/3/playstation-3/ In other words I don't think GT6 is as important a system seller as we'd like to think.

Secondly what I got from PlayStation Meeting 2013 is that the PS4 isn't necessarily a replacement the PS3 - but rather an addition to the PlayStation Ecosystem. Not unlike Apple technologies. Quoted from the link provided by diegorborges earlier, Jack Tretton had this to say:

"You know, something that we have subscribed to since PlayStation 1 is that consumers come into the market at different price points, at different times, for different reasons. PlayStation 3 is gonna live on, and we don’t expect everybody to drop their PlayStation 3 and immediately buy a PlayStation 4 this Christmas. We know that there are gonna be people buying and playing PlayStation 3 for years to come, just as they did with PlayStation 2, just as they did with PlayStation 1. There may be a consumer that doesn’t become a PlayStation 4 consumer for five years. That’s okay. I mean, we’re selling PlayStation 3’s to people today, we sold them to people in 2006, and we hope to be selling them to people in 2015. That’s okay."

Before this post becomes too long, two questions for the unbelievers..

• Why would Sony have two first party car games competing for the same dime at launch?

• Why would the performance improvements in GTAcademy (leaderboards, interface, loading times) not be able to be incorporated into a radically better GT6 for PS3?

 

[maxpontiac]

For starters I reckon as GT fans we may be biased in our analysis of this news. Our series is incredibly important to us, but doesn't exactly define the PlayStation experience. http://www.vgchartz.com/platform/3/playstation-3/ In other words I don't think GT6 is as important a system seller as we'd like to think.

Are we looking at the same link? All I see is Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto ahead of Gran Turismo.

Not many games get near 9,000,000 copies sold, and your link proves that very thing.

Additionally, GT5 is the best selling PS3 exclusive out there.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Why would Sony have two first party car games competing for the same dime at launch?

This, has been stuck in my head for awhile now, and I agree. Sony doesn't want GT6 taking everyone's attention from DriveClub for the PS4, (DriveClub has the racing genre for PS4 covered), but instead wanted it for the PS3? Than again I'm getting the PS4 for christmas hopefully so I guess I'm okay to have GT6 on the P.S.3. *Twiches*

 

[diegorborges]

For starters I reckon as GT fans we may be biased in our analysis of this news. Our series is incredibly important to us, but doesn't exactly define the PlayStation experience. http://www.vgchartz.com/platform/3/playstation-3/ In other words I don't think GT6 is as important a system seller as we'd like to think.

Secondly what I got from PlayStation Meeting 2013 is that the PS4 isn't necessarily a replacement the PS3 - but rather an addition to the PlayStation Ecosystem. Not unlike Apple technologies. Quoted from the link provided by diegorborges earlier, Jack Tretton had this to say:

"You know, something that we have subscribed to since PlayStation 1 is that consumers come into the market at different price points, at different times, for different reasons. PlayStation 3 is gonna live on, and we don’t expect everybody to drop their PlayStation 3 and immediately buy a PlayStation 4 this Christmas. We know that there are gonna be people buying and playing PlayStation 3 for years to come, just as they did with PlayStation 2, just as they did with PlayStation 1. There may be a consumer that doesn’t become a PlayStation 4 consumer for five years. That’s okay. I mean, we’re selling PlayStation 3’s to people today, we sold them to people in 2006, and we hope to be selling them to people in 2015. That’s okay."

Before this post becomes too long, two questions for the unbelievers..

• Why would Sony have two first party car games competing for the same dime at launch?

• Why would the performance improvements in GTAcademy (leaderboards, interface, loading times) not be able to be incorporated into a radically better GT6 for PS3?

Exactly what I was talking about.

For us, mostly car nuts it does makes sense to buy 2 racing games at the console launch. 2? Why not 3? 5 racing games? YAY.

But for people that aren't car nuts, works like this: Okay, the new PS4... I will buy a FPS, a sports game, a racing game and an adventure/platformer.

For these people, having 2 racing game "options" at launch may be not the best idea. They will buy one or another. And this at the beginning of a new IP such as Driveclub is not good. Gran Turismo would smash Driveclub sales into pieces, because the Gran Turismo "brand" is very strong.


It's a difficult subject to talk about.

 

[Brutaka]

I believe GT6 will be a PS4 game but not a launch title, in about a years time it may come out, that way it would have ample time for completion and wont have to compete with Driveclub. I highly doubt GT6 will be on both platforms.

 

[TokoTurismo]

I'm starting to slowly get over "GT6 needs to be on PS4" now. Kinda want it on PS3, but REALLY hoping it'll be better.

 

[Francocosta02]

i think if Sony wanted GT6 on PS4 they would have shown or said at least a minimum thing about GT6, and probably wouldnt give as much importance as they did to Driveclub.

And i dont think GT6 would be a really much motivational to buy a PS4 maybe among people here in GTPlanet yeah, probably 90%(hell! even 95% i dare to say) of the people here would buy it only for GT series, but the big numbers are in other kind of games.

2 things make me think GT6 is on PS3, the announcment of Driveclub, and the already installed market of PS3.

and 1 think makes me think its on PS4
GT6 on PS4 = More money for Sony
GT6 on PS3 = More moeny for PD

 

[Samus]

Games will certainly come out for PS3 after the PS4 launch but there is very, very little precedent for AAA, first party titles to do that. Not even dual releases.

Look at games released after November 2006 for PS2. God Of War II is the only first party game I would consider AAA that was released for the PS2 after that date. That's it.

and 1 think makes me think its on PS4
GT6 on PS4 = More money for Sony
GT6 on PS3 = More moeny for PD

You do realise they're essentially the same thing? PD are a wholly owned subsidiary of Sony.

 

[tube chaser]

Are we looking at the same link? All I see is Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto ahead of Gran Turismo.

Not many games get near 9,000,000 copies sold, and your link proves that very thing.

Additionally, GT5 is the best selling PS3 exclusive out there.

Very few of my GT5 friends on PSN play COD, so I surmise that most of those folks who support it and make it the best selling PS3 game probably weren't influenced to choose Sony over Microsoft by that particular exclusive. LBP perhaps but not Gran Turismo

 

[Earth]

Not sure why people are expecting GT6 this year, on any console. Gran Turismo 3, 4, and 5 were all announced well over a year before they released. That trend can change but I find it highly unrealistic to expect GT6 within 6 months after its announced, in this case E3 in June.

 

[Stumps_GTI]

Not sure why people are expecting GT6 this year, on any console. Gran Turismo 3, 4, and 5 were all announced well over a year before they released. That trend can change but I find it highly unrealistic to expect GT6 within 6 months after its announced, in this case E3 in June.

This I believe is true enough, and no reason to doubt the trend will not continue....
But, deep down inside, I truly wish Kaz would surprise us all, with a "hey, GT6 is expected next week".

Maybe deep down, he has a yearning to please us all, by getting a game out, ready, before we suspect anything??

Note:
The above is purely speculation on my part, I have not read any secret files, I do not have access to PD knowledge base....
It is purely an "open rambling". A wish if you will.

 

[machschnel]

Not sure why people are expecting GT6 this year, on any console. Gran Turismo 3, 4, and 5 were all announced well over a year before they released. That trend can change but I find it highly unrealistic to expect GT6 within 6 months after its announced, in this case E3 in June.

You raise a good point.

In saying that, why does it matter how far out from release you announce a game? First thing that comes to mind is you miss out on getting the hype-train started early, but from certain comments Kaz has made after his experience with GT5, I think he'd be happy to release GT6 within a few months of announcing it.

What's the downside?

Less hype, precisely the thing Kaz wants to avoid.

 

[The_Rpg_Moogle]

You raise a good point.

In saying that, why does it matter how far out from release you announce a game? First thing that comes to mind is you miss out on getting the hype-train started early, but from certain comments Kaz has made after his experience with GT5, I think he'd be happy to release GT6 within a few months of announcing it.

What's the downside?

Less hype, precisely the thing Kaz wants to avoid.

Kaz knows any announcement of GT6 and people will be hopping on the hype train just like before...so he'd be wise to announce a game that's nearly finished. I think he and Sony know this very well. I've got trust in GT6 and PD, know matter what happened with GT5.

 

[Chrunch Houston]

I think there are very few games - if any - that are like GT. I bought the PS3 ONLY for GT. At the time only GT5P was available. I waited a whole year of delays to finally get GT5.

GT5P got me out of the mindset of racing the stupid AI robots. I only do online now and find it hard to believe that people actually like the seasonals and all the other offline AI racing crap.

I run my own room now even though I get bored with the limited number of tracks.

I can't wait for GT6 - because of all of the new tracks. I have been told I need a roll of duct tape to keep my hat on!

Games will certainly come out for PS3 after the PS4 launch but there is very, very little precedent for AAA, first party titles to do that.

I admire you sticking to your guns but you must be mad.

I find it a little funny how much the tables of opinion have turned over one guys mentioning of two letters and one number.

Luv ya simon - we shall see.

 

[seriouswapanese]

and 1 think makes me think its on PS4
GT6 on PS4 = More money for Sony
GT6 on PS3 = More moeny for PD

hate to break it to you but with a new system out Sony is going to care more about the system's sales numbers than how well GT6 might do on the PS3, and i'm sure they're smart enough to know how GT6 on PS4 would drive the numbers up.

 

[Scaff]

hate to break it to you but with a new system out Sony is going to care more about the system's sales numbers than how well GT6 might do on the PS3, and i'm sure they're smart enough to know how GT6 on PS4 would drive the numbers up.

Unless the PS4 is actually a pile of rubbish at launch (and given what we know that doesn't look to be the case) then GT6 at launch is not going to increase sales one bit.

They can't sell any more than they can make and the PS, PS2 and PS3 all managed to sell every last one of the initial production runs without a GT title in sight. In other words the PS4 will sell as many as Sony can make for at least the first six months without needing a GT title, and having one is not going to magic additional production units from thin air.

While a GT at launch would be nice, its certainly not needed to sell the machine at all. It is needed around six to twelve months after launch, once the early adapters have bought the machine (who were going to buy it regardless of a GT title or not), to continue to drive sales.