Gran Turismo 6 coming to PS3

[diegorborges]

And besides; all this talk of PS3's "limitations", when the majority of GT5's shortcomings had little to do with the technical side.

This. I bet if there's really a GT6 for PS3, most of those shortcomings will be solved.

We are going to pay the price: only 8-10 cars on track? (less cars on track made GTPSP possible at true 60fps) Lower quality LOD for oponent cars? (like Forza, if I'm not mistaken it really have 5 LOD levels for the car models)

I don't know, but they will find a way. I hope. What GT5 does well, it's already a very good technical achievement... some balance between the features may free some resources to fix stuff like the shadows, etc.

Honestly, more new car models, the removal of the premium/standard thing (I drive a lot of standards in GT5 but they must go.), more tracks and a WELL MADE A-spec mode will already make it sell like hot bread.

 

[Exorcet]

I agree with you... but for them, maybe selling 6 million copies of GT6 on PS3 it's enough money to go for it (let's consider 10 million of GT5 and 60% of those would get GT6). A big part of the assets are done...Why not?

6 millions x 50 bucks = A reason to do it. Inject part of this cash on GT7 PS4 development and you are good.


Even if they sell only 5 million copies of GT6 on PS3 it's still profitable...

The short of it is, it's not just about profitable, but most profitable. Are 6 million GT sales as good as 2 million console sales + 2 million GT sales? Would the number of PS3 buyers exceed the number of PS4 buyers?

This. I bet if there's really a GT6 for PS3, most of those shortcomings will be solved.

We are going to pay the price: only 8-10 cars on track? (less cars on track made GTPSP possible at true 60fps) Lower quality LOD for oponent cars? (like Forza, if I'm not mistaken it really have 5 LOD levels for the car models)

I don't know, but they will find a way. I hope. What GT5 does well, it's already a very good technical achievement... some balance between the features may free some resources to fix stuff like the shadows, etc.

Honestly, more new car models, the removal of the premium/standard thing (I drive a lot of standards in GT5 but they must go.), more tracks and a WELL MADE A-spec mode will already make it sell like hot bread.

There is no doubt that a new PS3 GT can beat GT5. I would look at Forza as the benchmark for a lot of things. GT6-PS3 should be able to match Forza in physics, tuning, customization, and online options.

But for me that's not enough. You're still giving up a lot potential in the hardware that could allow next gen games to far exceed what is possible on GT5/FM4. That is why I want a PS4 release. The only chance for GT6 to be a leading class sim is PS4. Sadly even if it's on PS4, there is no guarantee of anything, but being a PS3 game rules out hardcore sim.

 

[Conza]

While the argument of 'More people own PS3s than PS4s' as a succession that GT6 well be released on PS3 appears valid on the surface, further consideration would determine that, the importance of selling PS4s outweighs that of a single first party game, even GT6. Yes, there would almost certainly all more copies of the game were it released on PS3, but they'll definitely sell more copies of the PS4 if the game is released there instead. That's incentive for a PS4 release.

 

[Earth]

GT1 sold more then GT2

GT3 sold more then GT4

Its very likely GT6 on PS3 will not replicate GT5's success. If you consider it was nowhere near the critical success of GT1 or GT3 that makes the chances even more slim.

If GT6 is on the PS3 and the next Forza is released near the Next Box's launch, for the first time I will seriously consider making the jump.

I only agreed with GT6 being on the PS3 if it were released around June 2013, where it had no direct competition and the next gen of consoles were 6 or so months away.

 

[sparkytooth]

While the argument of 'More people own PS3s than PS4s' as a succession that GT6 well be released on PS3 appears valid on the surface, further consideration would determine that, the importance of selling PS4s outweighs that of a single first party game, even GT6. Yes, there would almost certainly all more copies of the game were it released on PS3, but they'll definitely sell more copies of the PS4 if the game is released there instead. That's incentive for a PS4 release.

BINGO!

What no one understands is that Sony needs to sell more PS4s to succeed,and this means that GT6 is more likely to be on PS4 because of this.With a company that needs as much money as Sony they can't put the PS4 to waste by making it's previous generation (PS3) sell more than the new console (Logic),for them to move more PS4s from the various Gamestops,EBgames,Wal-marts and shady guys in coats in front of those Wal-marts they need a killer app (GT3 much gentlemen?).That's where GT6 comes in.I may be wrong about this and GT6 might be released on PS3 instead but from a realistic perspective this might not be the case.

In short:The PS4 matters more than GT6 or the PS3.

 

[Spagetti69]

http://m.uk.ign.com/articles/2013/02/25/every-sony-owned-studio-is-working-on-ps4-games

Vita? I knew you so well.

 

[LeadFootLiam]

I sure hope it doesnt.

 

[JSilvaGT]

I would prefer a GT6 for the PS3 and a GT7 prologue for the PS4, but I think the most probably is the GT6 will be a PS4 title.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

While the argument of 'More people own PS3s than PS4s' as a succession that GT6 well be released on PS3 appears valid on the surface, further consideration would determine that, the importance of selling PS4s outweighs that of a single first party game, even GT6. Yes, there would almost certainly all more copies of the game were it released on PS3, but they'll definitely sell more copies of the PS4 if the game is released there instead. That's incentive for a PS4 release.

Being on PS3 will not hurt PS4 as some of you might think. They will still end up releasing a game on PS4 probably in similar time frame than if they didn't release a game on PS3. It is also not like the Sony is thinking PS4 is a 1 year sprint of being successful, it will be a long marathon that goes to the end of this decade. GT for Sony is probably the most profitable game they got by far, if they sell quite a lot of games on PS3 as well as some PS3 consoles, it will help Sony quite a lot for their profits. Considering GT has not been a launch title for PlayStation console in boxed retail form in its history, I don't think it will make a massive difference for Sony to release it closer to launch than what was managed for a GT game on PS3.

If they do a PS3 release, worst case will probably be they will make probably around at least hundred million dollars extra while giving people who can't afford / don't want to get a PS4 straight away good first party games but it will cost them a slower initial uptake of PS4s. However they will then have a GT game also being able to shift a more profitable PS4, few years later.

PS4 also has got a lot going for it, going by rumours of spec of next Xbox I would think only way their competitors will be able to compete is heavily undercut Sony. Biggest threat I reckon though is more if there is a demand out there in the world for new gaming consoles like in the past, if it is more then that would awesome for gaming community as a whole.

 

[cletus 669]

We expect that PS4 will be released in December - and we hope that the first Gran Turismo game for this console will be released within the first few months. However if thus requires a huge amount of work, and after watching the PS4 stream - I think it probably will do (the potential graphics to show the weave of the carbon fibre seem to mean that the modelling is far above what is currently available on PS3).

And consider this, very little DLC, makes me think that PD have either been preparing GT6 for PS4 using a development pack, or possibily holding back DLC for a GT6 release on PS3. Whilst still developing GT7 for a slightly later PS4 release (maybe November 2014).

So I can see 2 Gran Turismo games being released within a couple of years! I'd buy both!

This! Didn't they split PD into two offices a year ago or so? So then why couldn't they have been working on both all this time? Old office is GT6 and new office(closer to Sony main office) GT7 for the new console. That does make sense if ya think about it for a second.

 

[sparkytooth]

This! Didn't they split PD into two offices a year ago or so? So then why couldn't they have been working on both all this time? Old office is GT6 and new office(closer to Sony main office) GT7 for the new console. That does make sense if ya think about it for a second.

And I guess Kaz is able to split into two or has a clone??

Also to back up the fact that GT6 (or GT7) will most likely be for PS4 is this:

Sony has every studio it owns working on PS4 games

The other guy before me already said it.Sorry.....

 

[sems4arsenal]

http://m.uk.ign.com/articles/2013/02/25/every-sony-owned-studio-is-working-on-ps4-games

Vita? I knew you so well.

Pretty much end of the rumor then .

 

[cletus 669]

And I guess Kaz is able to split into two or has a clone??

Also to back up the fact that GT6 (or GT7) will most likely be for PS4 is this:

Sony has every studio it owns working on PS4 games

The other guy before me already said it.Sorry.....

So Kaz is PD's only employee? Get serious bro. Did you even read that article? The very first sentence says "many of PD studios are no doubt working on PS4 games." It doesn't say ALL are working on PS4games or ONLY PS4 games.

 

[sparkytooth]

So Kaz is PD's only employee? Get serious bro.

He's not the only one obviously and you can't stand sarcasm I think:tdown:.He's important none of the less.I guess PD should have an army by now but I always keep seeing the same names in the credits movies of every GT.

 

[wankal13B]

Gt series was the reason you bought a ps console. It's all stratigic marcketing, don't dought for one minute thay will launch gt6 with ps4. it just makes sense$$$$$$. Wishfull thinking, gt6 on ps3!!.

 

[Samus]

This! Didn't they split PD into two offices a year ago or so? So then why couldn't they have been working on both all this time? Old office is GT6 and new office(closer to Sony main office) GT7 for the new console. That does make sense if ya think about it for a second.

They expanded, I don't recall anything to suggest they split into two distinct teams a la Naughty Dog.

 

[MeanElf]

BINGO!

What no one understands is that Sony needs to sell more PS4s to succeed,and this means that GT6 is more likely to be on PS4 because of this...

I think quite a few people understand and had already come to the assumption that PS4 would be the logical choice. Trouble is, now along comes a contrary bit of info which suggests maybe GT6 will appear on PS3 instead.

Now, nowhere has it officially been confirmed or denied - nor has there been an official statement as to whether or not GT6 will appear on both consoles to keep both sets of fans happy - that however might still be a possibility.

You also suggest that Sony and PS4 sales will be better served by launching on that console:

With a company that needs as much money as Sony they can't put the PS4 to waste by making it's previous generation (PS3) sell more than the new console (Logic),

I only quote this as you seem to be suggesting that console sales of the PS3 will still factor into this - most folks would already have one by now, surely?

I think Sony know they will have another guaranteed few million sales of GT6 on PS3 and that with PS4 they can either release an expanded version, or one which utilises the features on offer using more glorious visuals etc. Failing that, the long view will still bring them out out well with GT7 within two years.

Personally I still think GT6 will be a PS4 title and that an error was made in that announcement. I won't object if the game comes out for both generations though.

 

[cletus 669]

They expanded, I don't recall anything to suggest they split into two distinct teams a la Naughty Dog.

No you are right. But it makes sense that they could have been working on both for at least a year. One office working on GT6 and one working on GT7 seems logical. Just another opinion on the interweb ya know.

 

[Nismo34]

No you are right. But it makes sense that they could have been working on both for at least a year. One office working on GT6 and one working on GT7 seems logical. Just another opinion on the interweb ya know.

They have a small enough team as it is, splitting them to work on 2 games means even less people to work on them which means it will take longer to make. So no, it doesnt make sense.

 

[Exorcet]

One office working on GT6 and one working on GT7 seems logical.

How big is each division? What are the goals for each product? Are they both focusing only on new projects? Would they both be focusing on GT?

 

[Samus]

They have a small enough team as it is, splitting them to work on 2 games means even less people to work on them which means it will take longer to make. So no, it doesnt make sense.

Exactly. Naughty Dog have 250+ employess that split into two teams, what is the current number for PD? I'm pretty sure it's already half that before you even think about splitting them.

 

[Nismo34]

Exactly. Naughty Dog have 250+ employess that split into two teams, what is the current number for PD? I'm pretty sure it's already half that before you even think about splitting them.

Approx 110 according to their website. So say it is split evenly, thats 55 working on GT6 and the other 55 working on GT7. If it took 110 to make GT5 in 5 years, it could well take 10 to make GT6 and GT7.

 

[patriotzero]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/25/every-sony-owned-studio-is-working-on-ps4-games

Polyphony Digital is almost certainly working on Gran Turismo 6 for PS4.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Polyphony Digital is almost certainly working on Gran Turismo 6 for PS4.

They better.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Exactly. Naughty Dog have 250+ employess that split into two teams, what is the current number for PD? I'm pretty sure it's already half that before you even think about splitting them.

Where did you see they have 250+ employees. I would think PDI will now have about 200 or more spread across their 3 offices, similar to other Sony first party studios. There will not be much splitting of teams going on there most likely, just working towards an end goal of making Gran Turismo a better game. Making cars and tracks at high quality will be useful for all three main PlayStation platforms, PS3, PS Vita and PS4. Most of game structure will be similar, all that will be left is implementing features specific for the three Playstation platforms and optimizing the game for the hardware.

 

[TheDabbinDave]

A couple games were named to be on the PS4 and PS3 (Diablo III), so it's not out of the realm of possibility.

And they are third party devs. PD can easily pull off a side by side release. Think about the install base of the two consoles.

 

[Griffith500]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/25/every-sony-owned-studio-is-working-on-ps4-games

Polyphony Digital is almost certainly working on Gran Turismo 6 for PS4.

The funny thing about that is that they could also, like some of the other first party studios mentioned, be working on a PS3 game as well. What that'd be escapes me, but this doesn't really help us.

 

[Samus]

Where did you see they have 250+ employees. I would think PDI will now have about 200 or more spread across their 3 offices, similar to other Sony first party studios. There will not be much splitting of teams going on there most likely, just working towards an end goal of making Gran Turismo a better game. Making cars and tracks at high quality will be useful for all three main PlayStation platforms, PS3, PS Vita and PS4. Most of game structure will be similar, all that will be left is implementing features specific for the three Playstation platforms and optimizing the game for the hardware.

http://www.linkedin.com/company/13609?trk=tyah

201-500 but I've seen 240-250 mentioned elsewhere.

If PDI had that many by now why wouldn't they say so?

 

[Tornado]

And they are third party devs. PD can easily pull off a side by side release. Think about the install base of the two consoles.

Diablo III isn't a game that was developed with either the PS3 or PS4 in mind. It's a game that came out nearly a year ago on the PC that is being ported to them.

 

[counter345]

I think it's a slip-up for sure, but if it did come out on the PS3, at least I wouldn't have to worry about buying a brand new console for it.