Gran Turismo 6 coming to PS3

Not everyone is born with silver spoons. It will be several years before PS4 is affordable for a lot of people.

The last PS2 game was released in March 2013 - 13 years after PS2 launch

People still buy N64 consoles and games, can fetch good $$$ on ebay

Not sure why you would LOL at that

The PS4 is pegged to be relatively cheap. I think Simonk put me right on this a while back. People are saying around £300 - £350. That isn't silver spoon money at all.
 
It's still alot of money to justify spending on a games console when you've got bills coming in, let's be real here.

Let alone if you are one of the few who either got laid off or has a pay freeze.

If anything it will be an update saying we are half way done with GT6 and expect more in the coming years. (Then delayed, and then delayed again :grumpy: etc)
 
The PS4 is pegged to be relatively cheap. I think Simonk put me right on this a while back. People are saying around £300 - £350. That isn't silver spoon money at all.

That's higher than the annual wage for a labourer working in a Zimbabwean silver mine.
 
Consider the following when you have a fat PS3; The fat PS3 has got a lot higher energy consumption then the PS3 slim (almost double to triple as much). If the PS4 has a low energy consumption like the PS3 slim then waiting for a price cut and play on your fat PS3 makes no sense at all. In a couple of years your price advantage is gone. Energy consumption is something that is overlooked by many people when buying electronics.
 
I have a fat PS3, and the reason I overlook the energy consumption angle is because I don't care in the slightest about it when putting together hundreds of dollars to buy game consoles upfront. How many people do you think play it that much where they never turn it off, 24/7?
 
I have a fat PS3, and the reason I overlook the energy consumption angle is because I don't care in the slightest about it when putting together hundreds of dollars to buy game consoles upfront. How many people do you think play it that much where they never turn it off, 24/7?

The advantage of waiting 2 years for the PS4 to get it $100,- cheaper would already be gone if you play on average 2-3 hours a day
 
Which would be a valid point if the PS4 had backwards compatibility and therefore the same available software library; and if the PS3 Slim used no power at all. 2-3 hours of gaming a day is a lot when added up, but even then the power consumption isn't much of anything compared to someone watching an older TV or using a desktop computer for a few hours.
 
Consider the following when you have a fat PS3; The fat PS3 has got a lot higher energy consumption then the PS3 slim (almost double to triple as much). If the PS4 has a low energy consumption like the PS3 slim then waiting for a price cut and play on your fat PS3 makes no sense at all. In a couple of years your price advantage is gone. Energy consumption is something that is overlooked by many people when buying electronics.

Does a North American fat (120V 60Hz) consume less energy than an Australian slim(240V 50Hz)?
 
That's higher than the annual wage for a labourer working in a Zimbabwean silver mine.

Are you a labourer working in a Zimbabwean silver mine??

Seriously though. You bought a PS3, chances are you eventually going to buy a PS4. Be it on day of release or maybe even 2 years after. I can't see Sony dropping the price of the console, if it is going to be £300, for quite some time. My guess would be around 4-5 years, a considerable drop that is.

Are you going to wait 5 years for a PS4? If your are then the question on wether or not you want GT6 to be a PS4 release has been answered. It's because you aren't going to be buying a PS4, so you don't want to miss out.

So, by that answer, you are looking at the release of the next GT from somewhat of a selfish point of view, IMO.

There is no doubt that GT on a PS4 is going to be a marked improvement, be it GT6 or GT7. If its not as it should be when a PS4 released GT, then I'm done with GT.

GT4 was pretty much as good as it gets, for me, and I would love to see something along those lines, with a livery editor, a proper tyre physics model (as spoken about by Scaff), a decent career mode, and support for all kinds of different online racing leagues.

I'll wait GT6 out if its a PS3 release, untill GT7. If they can't get it right by then, them I'm out.
 
A PS4 GT7 better have incredibile sounds, as sound makes up a large percentage of immersion. If we still get hair dryers then I think I will become disillusioned with Polyphony Digital.

With PS4 power comes no excuses for certain fundemental elements not to be at a very high standard, sounds being one of those elements.
 
A full GT on next gen will take PD at least two or three years to make. Given the rumor that they have had dev kits for two years was true, they could be one their way to finish a GT on PS4. But I highly doubt it and I would gladly be proven wrong.
 
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A PS4 GT7 better have incredibile sounds, as sound makes up a large percentage of immersion. If we still get hair dryers then I think I will become disillusioned with Polyphony Digital.

With PS4 power comes no excuses for certain fundemental elements not to be at a very high standard, sounds being one of those elements.

There's nothing stopping PD, or any other developer for that matter, from including proper sound in their PS3 games. The Blu-Ray discs offers more than enough space for either uncompressed or lossless sound. Which is the best there is.
 
Yes, you're right. I'm sure, PS4 users will be able to play via a service based on Gakai and GT6 (if for PS3) would certainly be one of the first games to offer the service for.
 
There's nothing wrong with the game coming out on PS3, in isolation. GTA5 will be too, and nobody is complaining about that.

All this talk of wanting it on the PS4 because of the relatively unlimited freedom PD would have in creating a new game is overlooking something obvious; that's exactly what we were told about the PS3, that it offered so much for GT5's creation. Then, of course, Kaz was quick to criticize the limitations of the system, where many other developers simply buckle down and design to the system limitations. I don't recall Hideo Kojima constantly making excuses about how he wanted to include other things in his games, but didn't thanks to a system that couldn't handle it.

Regardless of which system GT6 ends up on, I just want to see PD design a game within the inherent limitations the console provides. There will always be a ceiling, and as a Sony-owned studio, they have some of the best knowledge of where that ceiling lies.
 
There's nothing wrong with the game coming out on PS3, in isolation. GTA5 will be too, and nobody is complaining about that.

All this talk of wanting it on the PS4 because of the relatively unlimited freedom PD would have in creating a new game is overlooking something obvious; that's exactly what we were told about the PS3, that it offered so much for GT5's creation. Then, of course, Kaz was quick to criticize the limitations of the system, where many other developers simply buckle down and design to the system limitations. I don't recall Hideo Kojima constantly making excuses about how he wanted to include other things in his games, but didn't thanks to a system that couldn't handle it.

Regardless of which system GT6 ends up on, I just want to see PD design a game within the inherent limitations the console provides. There will always be a ceiling, and as a Sony-owned studio, they have some of the best knowledge of where that ceiling lies.

I agree with this.

Except, the jump from PS2 to PS3, in terms of technology, was massive. I don't expect the same from this new generation. Plus, I don't think that consumers, the older ones at least, will put up with yet more excuses from Kaz if a PS4 version of GT is lacking again. I know I won't.
 
You guys are missing a key element here, which is that the PS4 will most likely not launch with a lot of games. If history repeats itself, the PS4 wont be getting a ton of good games until at least 6 months after its release. There will be a lot of time in which the PS4 will have no games, which is why it makes sense that there are so many PS3 games coming out around the PS4's launch date. Like nealcropper said, it's a no brainer for the game to be PS3.
 
There's nothing wrong with the game coming out on PS3, in isolation. GTA5 will be too, and nobody is complaining about that.

All this talk of wanting it on the PS4 because of the relatively unlimited freedom PD would have in creating a new game is overlooking something obvious; that's exactly what we were told about the PS3, that it offered so much for GT5's creation. Then, of course, Kaz was quick to criticize the limitations of the system, where many other developers simply buckle down and design to the system limitations. I don't recall Hideo Kojima constantly making excuses about how he wanted to include other things in his games, but didn't thanks to a system that couldn't handle it.

Regardless of which system GT6 ends up on, I just want to see PD design a game within the inherent limitations the console provides. There will always be a ceiling, and as a Sony-owned studio, they have some of the best knowledge of where that ceiling lies.

I couldn't have written any better than this. +1. :)

I agree with this.

Except, the jump from PS2 to PS3, in terms of technology, was massive. I don't expect the same from this new generation. Plus, I don't think that consumers, the older ones at least, will put up with yet more excuses from Kaz if a PS4 version of GT is lacking again. I know I won't.

Well we don't know about GT PS4 will be lacking, since we heard nothing about it of course. So no need to talk about that yet. Hehe. :sly:
 
A PS4 GT7 better have incredibile sounds, as sound makes up a large percentage of immersion. If we still get hair dryers then I think I will become disillusioned with Polyphony Digital.
I thought the new meme was weed eater sounds. ;)

I found myself with a Peugeot that overpowered the field badly, so I took off the sports muffler and close tranny and redid the race, and cruised by all the other cars. I was impressed at how each car had its own distinct humm and purr and rumble, many of which I recognized from my early morning tear to work. I think you "vacuum cleaner" guys are lost in the jungle of your own cliches.

There's nothing stopping PD, or any other developer for that matter, from including proper sound in their PS3 games. The Blu-Ray discs offers more than enough space for either uncompressed or lossless sound. Which is the best there is.
The drive has nothing to do with sound quality. Those samples have to fit in system ram. Even Turn 10 shortsheeted the sounds in Forza 4, in which the other cars have generic samples - muted samples at that, and yours makes an ungodly roar. And the 360 has a slightly more flexible unified ram.

Once again, if you want a seriously improved Gran Turismo, you don't want it on PS3.

Anyway, time to play with my weed eaters. :D
 
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