Gran Turismo 6 coming to PS3

[CorvetteConquer]

I have no problems with PD having a go at another more optimized GT title for the PS3, it can only be a good thing for funding more staff to travel the world for content and first hand research, as well as getting/keeping more licences for PS4's GT.

I agree. PD's skilled enough to add/remove, tweak the operating system to make GT6 run smoother than GT5. Secondly, GT5 was terrible because of whacky and weird decisions from Kaz (in my opinion). GT6 can be "great" on the PS3 if certain features are added/amended.

BUT PD must be absolutely on the ball to outperform the the next gen racing titles before it get's too late (like 4 years too late).

It's funny...I sort of want to see PD trip and fall again and I almost want them to ignore the fan base's wishes. It would be very interesting to see how the community would react to a game without basic features like a livery editor, store front, up-to-date supercars and new manufacturers. PD's not immune to collapse or decline. Now, let's see if they've done their forum research. 👍

PS4 should have it's full Gran Turismo NO later than Summer 2014. I want them to retain the crown for worlds most respected racing simulator title (speaking in terms unit's sold)... and that means completely overhauled physics, sound and the sharpest graphics going. Perfectly doable if you ask me.

2014? That's a bit early, no? But that's speculation for ya!

I was thinking 2015-early 2016, considering the PS4 is so "easy" to develop for.

 

[psychoazubi]

Yep, GT6 for PS3 might earn the money to make PS4 a real great experience. :-)

That would be a (way to) looooong time until GT7 on PS4 is done if they are waiting for the GT6-PS3 money

 

[TokoTurismo]

It's funny...I sort of want to see PD trip and fall again and I almost want them to ignore the fan base's wishes. It would be very interesting to see how the community would react to a game without basic features like a livery editor, store front, up-to-date supercars and new manufacturers. PD's not immune to collapse or decline. Now, let's see if they've done their forum research. 👍

Oh we'll see about that CorvetteConquer. lol

 

[Ranman20]

30FPS would make the game look more cinematic!

More like dramatic.

 

[research]

....By the way, I wanted to shout out a thanks to whoever sent me the Nissan 270R.

You're welcome. One of my favorite cars, of all time. 👍

 

[omnibusse]

That would be a (way to) looooong time until GT7 on PS4 is done if they are waiting for the GT6-PS3 money

Yes, of course. They won't be sitting around waiting. 1st party devs have access to the first PS4 dev kists for about 2 years now. PD will be one of those, happily exploring what's possible. Therefore they might just need 1-2 more years to be finished with GTx on PS4.

Until then they will earn money by GT6 on PS3/Vita to do more tracks, cars and features. That's what I meant.

 

[GranTurismoer]

It would be nice to have GT7 for the PS4 be a more complete title when compared to debuts from yesteryear.

 

[dimangelogtp]

Well for me PD has done a wonderful job they released Gt5 that is the first game ever with 1000+ cars from the box not like forza n rest u end up paying 200$ , it is beautiful graphically n brings a lot of attention to detail for the year it was released , its got weather conditions first on Gt so with all that to consider im pretty sure Gt6 on Ps3 will be a new generation it self n im grateful that PD is not only on to money but to the real fans of the game that most of them are in depth car enthusiasts !!!! Cheers for PD

 

[occasionalracer]

2014? That's a bit early, no? But that's speculation for ya!

I was thinking 2015-early 2016, considering the PS4 is so "easy" to develop for.

Considering that updates can be released here and there, I'd rather them take a chance and release the game asap, then they can observe possible remaining bugs that could be lingering.

Summer 2014 is 3 years of development which is plenty for a non-CELL programming headache... 2015-2016 is just unacceptable in my view, never mind being a horrific business decision... again.

 

[KinLM]

If Forza 5 is released on the Next gen Xbox, then GT HAS to be a PS4 release. Because if not, then many people (like me) are going to buy the next Xbox instead and GT7 won't sell nearly as well since all the people who want a next gen racing game will have gone to the Next Xbox.

Part 2 to this is that if GT6 IS on the PS4 and Forza 5 is on the current Xbox, THEN everybody who wants a next gen racing game will buy GT6 and the PS4 instead, which will greatly help GT7.

 

[regnar]

Just my opinion, I think people are looking at GT6 as a separate title, but in reality GT6 is GT5, if PD had more time
they wouldn’t have released it in 2010 , I think they bit off more than they could chew going with the higher
polygon count on cars & tracks, etc., longer time to develop the project. My belief is GT6 will be as GT2 was to GT1, accumulation
of all there efforts in maxing the PS3 capability's, there will be more cars & tracks etc,. I think at this point PD is under
pressure to get this out the door to start working on the next title for the PS4 if they hadn't done so already.

 

[occasionalracer]

If Forza 5 is released on the Next gen Xbox, then GT HAS to be a PS4 release. Because if not, then many people (like me) are going to buy the next Xbox instead and GT7 won't sell nearly as well since all the people who want a next gen racing game will have gone to the Next Xbox.

The only problem with XBox is that they don't want to go with USB ports again next-gen (widely rumored anyway), making wheel choice very limited and thus hampering Forza sales cause most people already have their Logitech, Thrustmaster or Fanatec wheels and won't want to make the additional invest for the 1 game/console.

 

[cassiusclay99]

Can anyone tell me of there will be a press conference at the event? Journalists invited? Q&A?

 

[omnibusse]

The only problem with XBox is that they don't want to go with USB ports again next-gen (widely rumored anyway), making wheel choice very limited and thus hampering Forza sales cause most people already have their Logitech, Thrustmaster or Fanatec wheels and won't want to make the additional invest for the 1 game/console.

I hope, PS4 will allow us to use our Logitech-, Fanatec- & Thrustmaster-wheels. No word about those yet because no one except Sony knows.

Summer 2014 is 3 years of development which is plenty for a non-CELL programming headache... 2015-2016 is just unacceptable in my view, never mind being a horrific business decision... again.

I agree. It would be quite bad for PS4 to launch again without a GT soon after. And three years is a lot of time for a common platform as x86 is. But: It's new to PD. But on the other hand GT5 was described as a plattform on which they can easily change parts. Therefore I hope that the core will remain the same and that only platform-specific parts (low level coding) would require a rewrite for the PS4. And as Kaz described in the video, PS4 is a white canvas to develop for. Sounds easy ;-)

If Forza 5 is released on the Next gen Xbox, then GT HAS to be a PS4 release.

I agree, too. If Xbox has Forza, PS4 would better have something to offer for the same kind of audience. Not sure, if GT5 is required for that job, though.

 

[KinLM]

The only problem with XBox is that they don't want to go with USB ports again next-gen (widely rumored anyway), making wheel choice very limited and thus hampering Forza sales cause most people already have their Logitech, Thrustmaster or Fanatec wheels and won't want to make the additional invest for the 1 game/console.

Only a small percentage of people have wheels. The vast majority use controllers. And last I checked, Logitech wheels weren't compatable anyways.

Even so, I'd be willing to sacrifice the use of my G27 for some Next-Gen-Sim racing.

 

[ch3ng]

I honestly don't care anymore if it is a PS3 or PS4 game. But i don't want a GT6 Prologue on PS3, because it doesn't make sense and i'm not willing to pay for a advanced demo. I think a release on PS3 and PS4 could be interesting, but at the same time wouldn't show the true PS4 GT potential.

Well for me PD has done a wonderful job they released Gt5 that is the first game ever with 1000+ cars from the box not like forza n rest u end up paying 200$ , it is beautiful graphically n brings a lot of attention to detail for the year it was released , its got weather conditions first on Gt so with all that to consider im pretty sure Gt6 on Ps3 will be a new generation it self n im grateful that PD is not only on to money but to the real fans of the game that most of them are in depth car enthusiasts !!!! Cheers for PD

So much wrong with this post.

1. Car count doesn't matter if the quality suffers. We have 800 standard cars. I prefer quality over quantity.
2. You don't pay 200$ for DLC cars.
3. Every company cares about money. Sony sold GT Prologue the advanced demo.

 

[HKS racer]

30FPS would make the game look more cinematic!

You don't even know what you are talking about. Cinema use lots of POST processing filters and don't have to calculate stuff in real time. 30 fps in a racing game are NOT ideal.

 

[AlvaroF]

Only a small percentage of people have wheels. The vast majority use controllers. And last I checked, Logitech wheels weren't compatable anyways.

Even so, I'd be willing to sacrifice the use of my G27 for some Next-Gen-Sim racing.

So send the wheel to me, I will be really thankful for that. Well, unless GT6 is for the PS3, or you use it for PC playing. In that case nevermind.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

The only problem with XBox is that they don't want to go with USB ports again next-gen (widely rumored anyway), making wheel choice very limited and thus hampering Forza sales cause most people already have their Logitech, Thrustmaster or Fanatec wheels and won't want to make the additional invest for the 1 game/console.

How will people with Fanatecs be affected by the lack of USB ports if they connect to the Xbox wirelessly?

 

[occasionalracer]

Only a small percentage of people have wheels. The vast majority use controllers. And last I checked, Logitech wheels weren't compatable anyways.

For sure there's a ton of people controlling their cars with their thumbs, but I bet you Logitech has sold a least a half million DFGT's and a couple hundred thousand G25/G27's. Fanatec has probably enjoyed USB wheel sales in the 100's of k's also and now Thrustmaster T500RS has a very decently affordable option for those who take sim-racing more serious. Problem is neither company has ever released sales figures, so it's impossible to guesstimate but when you look at the time-trialers you can see most of them use wheels.

Most people who have gotten comfortable with wheels will never go back to pads... and with racing games getting more realistic the wheel market will steadily grow over the next years, it's clear that the best drivers are all on wheels and that should make good wheels such as the T500 become cheaper and knock out cheaper wheels like the DFGT. I'm sure they'll all be compatible with PS4.

Even so, I'd be willing to sacrifice the use of my G27 for some Next-Gen-Sim racing.[/b][/color]

You're saying you'll give up a wheel for next-gen gameplay even if it means not steering and getting the physical feedback of the cars? If so, I say don't do such a thing to yourself....

 

[TokoTurismo]

If Forza 5 is released on the Next gen Xbox, then GT HAS to be a PS4 release. Because if not, then many people (like me) are going to buy the next Xbox instead and GT7 won't sell nearly as well since all the people who want a next gen racing game will have gone to the Next Xbox.

I don't understand this. So okay. If there was one game going on the current console cost for let's say, $60. While the other is going next gen but that said console costs 500$ or more, you really believe people are just going to walk out the door and buy that said console for ONE little game? Please... T_T Just stop it.

What is wrong with GT6 being on the PS3 while Forza 5 is on the nextbox. Is it some sort of problem? What happens if GT6 actually does correct everything that was wrong in GT5, and adds all the features that were skipped from GT5? Will people still say "ahh screw it, GT6 still sucks because its on PS3", or is it GT6 is on the PS3... If GT6 was worth to be on both PS3 AND PS4 then well, cool.

The exaggerations are to strong. It's sad how others will believe GT6 will automatically be garbage due to it being on a currect console, and somehow the next gen racing games will automatically be, the winners because for what, graphics???

EDIT: Also. I have this belief that having GT6 both PS3 and PS4, may somewhat struggle PD. I think it's better to have GT6 on both PS3 and Vita, so PD can focus on making GT7 for PS4 imo.

You can go ahead and ignore my post all you want. I'm just glad I've got to write out something I held in for such a long time.

 

[occasionalracer]

How will people with Fanatecs be affected by the lack of USB ports if they connect to the Xbox wirelessly?

Microsoft opted for an entirely different way to send information between devices and console which makes any controller designed for XBox uncompatible with USB interface ... Fanatec made separate wheels for Xbox, Logitech and Thrustmaster haven't.

 

[omnibusse]

Microsoft opted for an entirely different way to send information between devices and console which makes any controller designed for XBox uncompatible with USB interface

It would be interesting to know how those special wheels worked out regarding sales figures. If they did not perform that well, it would be a reason for MS to change to a more common protocol when creating the next xbox.

I think some of the people with wheels might have bought an xbox if they could use their wheels with Forza.

 

[andosillano]

Amar212 is defending a lot the theory of gt6 for PS3 at neogaf forums.

The response to someone that said the gt6 have to be for ps4:

2. We don't know what is the current situation of the GT-engine for the PS3, really. Despite updates, basic code of GT5 is 2009 code of GT5rologue, enhanced in some areas and downscaled in others. But it is the same code. We don't have an idea about possible improvements they've made in past 24 months in coding and do they maybe have totally new, much more optimized PS3 code which can't be implemented in GT5 for some reason

3. Releasing GT game without having 15M consoles on market is not good idea. Used market would seriously hurt the revenues with all those who would jump in the next-gen train later then release and then decided to buy the game used from all those who bought it on launch. Also, Drive Club.

Also, every other damn revenue reason you can think of regarding selling DLC to platform with 75M users and to newly-released platform.

And ALSO, revenue they would lose with selling PS4 game compared to revenue they will make from selling a PS3 game - just incomparable. GT6 for PS3 will sell in 10M with no problem, especially if it comes bundled with PS3 console for Holidays with dropped price, once the PS4 pricing is revealed. You can't make up for the gap in such forecasted revenues, no way. It is really a no-brainer.

They are not into hurry with GT on PS4, nor would you be if you were them. They can release some compatible online service or some dedicated PS4 GT-online subscription based game aimed at most demanding players, but for full-release of "big" GT game on PS4 they will wait for a platform to saturate. And be sure that Europe will buy DriveClub in millions, together with PS4.

I think that we can be sure there will be gt6 for PS3 at least.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Ahhh. At least Amar understands GT6 should for PS3. I just had the same thought pop up just now, and honestly, it will hurt GT6's sells if it was released on PS4 (despite others saying they'll buy PS4 just for it), ESPECIALLY hurting DriveClub as well...

Bundling GT6 with PS3 will be a great idea, especially if its cheap during the holidays.

 

[avens]

Fun times, finally.

Since the video hints a gt6 announcement and we have no idea whether it will be on the ps3 or ps4, I'm actually more interested in knowing about vita integration. Probably the only person in the world but still.

 

[SlowInFastOut]

1 GT6 sold on PS4 = roughly $660 profit

1 GT6 sold on PS3 = $60 profit

do the math, it doesn't take nearly as many units to be more profitable on PS4.

 

[dr_slump]

1 GT6 sold on PS4 = roughly $660 profit

1 GT6 sold on PS3 = $60 profit

do the math, it doesn't take nearly as many units to be more profitable on PS4.

Too bad that your math is wrong.

 

[CorvetteConquer]

1 GT6 sold on PS4 = roughly $660 profit

1 GT6 sold on PS3 = $60 profit

do the math, it doesn't take nearly as many units to be more profitable on PS4.

You're probably going to be quite upset in the next few days if you're setting your hopes up for a PS4 GT6.

I'd recommend being apathetic than over-confident, that way you won't be disappointed. Or as disappointed.

 

[VYPA-SQUAD_Ace]

1 GT6 sold on PS4 = roughly $660 profit

1 GT6 sold on PS3 = $60 profit

do the math, it doesn't take nearly as many units to be more profitable on PS4.

You have to get that person to go buy a PS4.

Hell, I could wait til a PS4 and GT6 become used, what profit would that be then?

Oh and I have a friend that thinks he have found out the release date of the PS4.. he says November 22nd.