Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread
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This trailer's sound balance at that timestamp completely wrecked my ears, they were ringing for like 10 minutes. I had to turn my volume max on my headphones to hear Kaz clearly at the start, so going into whatever that was was devastating =/
They really should fix that and reupload it, it's pretty awful.
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and that's why i don't expect the latest cars anytime soon in GT7 , most likely in GT8
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Then you gonna see "why there's no car from * insert year GT8 is released * ?! They all are from 2023!"
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Regarding new cars, at least now we know something. Should calm down the updated 2023 requests, in all the threads. NOT!
Anyway, the Nissan Z was added and before that, the Supra(including Gr.4/GT4-spec) and GR86. Cars that had data before they were released to consumers. So, we won’t see the new 2024 GT4 Mustang, but maybe cars eight months old and older.
Anyway, the Nissan Z was added and before that, the Supra(including Gr.4/GT4-spec) and GR86. Cars that had data before they were released to consumers. So, we won’t see the new 2024 GT4 Mustang, but maybe cars eight months old and older.
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It also depends on the cooperation level between PD and Car Manufacturer. I am not surprised that the newest cars in rooster are Toyota and Nissan, those were always very close to PD.
Also I would be happy to see more at least 2021-2022 cars. I don’t really need the most fresh ones
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I'd not be surprised if, with Toyota at least, the relationship is inverted - that we get current-model Toyotas quicker because Toyota want them in the game (because they think it's good marketing for them with a partner they trust) rather than because PD ask for them to be in the game (although I'm sure PD are happy with it too).
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This music is included in the IP Information of GT7, but can't be heard anywhere. (Hooked on America by Royal Philharmonic Orchestra was in the same situation even heard in one of the pre-release video clips, but it finally came via the latest update and now available in the Music Rally and Music Replay.)
If this comes to the game too, would it fit the post-race menu screen?
This music is included in the IP Information of GT7, but can't be heard anywhere. (Hooked on America by Royal Philharmonic Orchestra was in the same situation even heard in one of the pre-release video clips, but it finally came via the latest update and now available in the Music Rally and Music Replay.)
If this comes to the game too, would it fit the post-race menu screen?
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I tried the Maggiore 1hr again today with the Mazda RX-Vision GT3, but I still struggled. More specifically, my average lap time was likely around 2:00, yet I still was ultimately a little over 20 seconds behind the winner. Is there a more ideal car that maybe I should be using?
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Continuing with new cars to GT7 and Kaz’ mention of eight months to complete a car for GT7. The SF23 cars were tested over the entire 2022 season. However, they were revealed at Suzuka, in October, 2022.
Both cars debuted beginning of April and we got the update end of April. PD would have had access to the chassis a bit before October when the final bodywork was signed off. Pretty spot on for eight months.
Both cars debuted beginning of April and we got the update end of April. PD would have had access to the chassis a bit before October when the final bodywork was signed off. Pretty spot on for eight months.
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8 months to model a car is too long compared to the competition. PD need to develop something that helps speed up the process without sacrificing quality or they risk being left behind. They really need to work smarter instead of harder. This is why I want a new leader at the helm to call the shots and make the hard decisions - Kaz clearly won't as he's still stuck in the past. Perhaps it was good to be insular early on but not now. I know that this franchise can be great again if the right choices are made. There's no excuse with the huge financial backing from Sony.
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Good luck trying to replace the guy who's effectively second only to the president at Sony. You might want it, but you're not getting that to happen anytime soon.
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Left behind by who exactly?
GT has by far the most detailed and accurate car models (exterior AND interior). Those things take time.
Other studios are faster, but sacrifice quality.
You can’t have it both ways.
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Once upon a time, sure. But nowadays? New Forza models, for example, are just as detailed (and you see more of those details during gameplay because GT uses a noticeably lower quality model outside of Scapes).
I don't think it's fair to say GT has by far the most detailed car models when PD hasn't bothered to model the engine bays (and some cars don't even have a modeled interior).
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The biggest weakness is that Forza continues to use outdated models. Their new models may be as good as or better than Gran Turismo's, but we also still have models in the games that are nearly 20 years old.Once upon a time, sure. But nowadays? New Forza models, for example, are just as detailed (and you see more of those details during gameplay because GT uses a noticeably lower quality model outside of Scapes).
I don't think it's fair to say GT has by far the most detailed car models when PD hasn't bothered to model the engine bays (and some cars don't even have a modeled interior).
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You’re literally comparing trailer footage right now. I’ll be god-smacked if you can pop the hood on every car in Forza and see a detailed engine.Once upon a time, sure. But nowadays? New Forza models, for example, are just as detailed (and you see more of those details during gameplay because GT uses a noticeably lower quality model outside of Scapes).
I don't think it's fair to say GT has by far the most detailed car models when PD hasn't bothered to model the engine bays (and some cars don't even have a modeled interior).
FWIW, any car in GT that has a translucent engine cover, has a beautifully modeled motor
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Is this a bit?
I have no idea how you jumped from "PD needs to model cars quicker" to "Kaz needs to be sacked" in the same paragraph.
Kaz is Gran Turismo. It's his child, his vision. He's the reason for most of the series' quirks and charm. Without him leading things, who knows where we'd be? GT might've become another soulless crapfest with a festival setting, bland open world, supercars given to you right at the start of the game, paid car packs full of reused models from the old games...
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I thought he wasn't vice president of SIE anymore the moment Jim Ryan took over and restructured the whole company?
Um, on the "months to create a car" thing... not to be that guy, but pretty much game development in general is going to take longer than usual from here on out as gamers demand more graphical power from these yet-still-untapped current gen consoles. If they don't meet these demands, then people are going to nitpick how everything looks half-baked. Such as the very thing above about Forza's models being outdated.
It's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" thing, really. It sucks that everything is taking longer than usual, but it's the price we have to pay for wanting that ultra-detailed shine on your fancy new 2023 car. (Well, unless you want to resort to using AI, but that's a whole other controversy altogether)
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Once upon a time, sure. But nowadays? New Forza models, for example, are just as detailed (and you see more of those details during gameplay because GT uses a noticeably lower quality model outside of Scapes).
I don't think it's fair to say GT has by far the most detailed car models when PD hasn't bothered to model the engine bays (and some cars don't even have a modeled interior).
Let’s wait till we get our hands on it.
Right now all we have are cherry picked promo shots.
You also don’t know how long it took T10 to model their new cars.
The reboot has been 6 years in the making.
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This is the salient point that I think people sometimes miss when they talk about the pace of car/track updates. It's not just a PD thing or even a racing game thing, high-end game development in general is slowing down to such a crawl that even giant 1,000-person studios are taking close to a decade to make a single game.
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all of your screenshots aren't from gameplay either , plus forza reuses same old models like from x360 , that would be the same as GT7 using PS2 models lol
also for the reason why it takes longer to make a new car - mainly it's because of CAD scans , obviously they need the real car , scan the car and these are very detailed 3D scans of the real car but it requires alot of work to make it into a game engine
other games don't use that , they "just" create 3D model from reference pictures = thus faster , less demanding
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Forza's gameplay and Forzavista models are much closer in quality compared to GT7's gameplay and Scapes.
What? Most modern racing games use 3D scanning for cars (and/or CAD data straight from the manufacturers) and often environments, both for realism and to speed up production. This is not something that's unique to GT.
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