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It's already in GT Sport so I'm pretty sure it will show up in GT7.
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The 2002 model is already in GT7.
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What's awful gamedesign?
Anyway, FH5 looks "cooler" the same way Fallout looks cooler than the ordinary FPS game. Some similarities between both games, but completely different designs and purposes. FH5 pretty much tries to take GT players and NFS players into the same game, a bit like GTA in a smaller extent. It's a much more appealing game for "content creators", than the normal racing game. That's why normal gaming youtube channels, that don't focus on racing games, usually make videos with FH games and not AC, GT or even FM. And the whole "FH5 looks more vibrant" thing, having the trees in your face, AI roaming around, etc, helps a lot. Plus being a street racing game with multiple environments helps too.
Also, that's not a thing. When a brand is being successful with their product, other brands won't stop market theirs.
For GT7 though, I'd be happy if they kept the fanbase hooked, by revealing one new car (to the game) every week or so. A small trailer, showing the new car, maybe some modifications applied to it, maybe a snippet of a new track that would be slowly revealed every new car trailer, culminating in a new track being revealed every month until release.
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Not sure why you're so worried about Horizon, it's not like people will stop paying attention to GT7 just because there's another racing game in the market. I've said this before, Gran Turismo has a different appeal than open world racing games. And it's a 2 decade old franchise and still relevant and a huge brand, it'll do just fine.
What game design are we talking about here? They haven't shown much aside from replay footages and cinematics.
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I can agree that simcade/sim racing is a niche (tough around 10 milion sales gt sport make it big number) but do you know gran turismo 1 was best selling game on ps1, gt2 has 3rd place, on ps2 gt3 2nd place and gt4 3rd, on ps3 gt5 2nd place, years before fh exists, so saying thx to new fh maybe it won't be a niche sounds weird for me
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If the only difference between the PS4 and PS5 version is graphics, then GT7 is just a content patch for GT Sport, similar to GT5 2.0 was.
We only got one GT game on PS4. We’ve been waiting for GT7 for literally years, and you want a physics and sound engine that runs on last gen specs??? Wtf!
Imagine buying a PS5 to play a PS4 calibre game. Yikes.
Imagine buying a PS5 to play a next gen game, and then being limited to 20 players per lobby because PS4 users need to be accommodated. Yikes.
And for the record, I don’t have a PS5 yet. I was gonna buy one for GT7, but if GT7 is a PS4 game with shiny graphics, it may be the first GT game I don’t buy.
Hell, while we’re at it, why don’t we throw PS2 standard models into GT7 to flush out the car roster?
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I mean at this stage we know there will be crossplay with parity to physics and number of cars, and even graphics without rt during gameplay will be mostly differ only in resolution, question is why it took pd almost 5 years to do it as new content in cars roster and new tracks isnt big at all.
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Imagine how neat it would be if GT had dyno tuning one day...
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You really don't understand how hard it is to get a PS5 right now, do you? And with the PS4 still having a massive install-base, solely releasing GT7 on a hard-to-obtain console would be a pretty bad business decision. We also don't know how much was necessarily cut from the PS5 version to fit the PS4 version.
Not to mention that when it comes to grid sizes alone, a larger grid might not necessarily be better, between online lag and the fact that some circuits may have limits on how many cars they could hold.
Just look at the remake of Trial Mountain for example. I can't imagine that the design of the pit lane - and the consideration of how many cars would fit in it - would be a spur-of-the-moment decision that was changed at the last moment to fit the PS4. Nor do I believe it to be a coincidence that Trial Mountain's pit lane, after being redesigned, happens to fit the exact number of cars that the PS4 is limited to having.
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Do we know there will be cross play?
Looking at games like Battlefield 2042, there is cross play between PlayStation and Xbox, but there is not cross play between generations (ie between PS4 and PS5). The PS5 lobbies have double the player count that the PS4 lobbies have.
If what you say is true, then GT7 is a PS4 game with shiny graphics.
It’s nothing more than a content patch for GT Sport that happens to erase your garage, liveries, and decal collection.
I’m fully aware of the PS5 shortages.
You want to talk about bad marketing decisions?
Releasing GT6 as a “new” game on PS3. It should have either been a 3.0 content patch for GT5, or it should have been a PS4 release title. Instead, they went with a stupid middle ground that pissed a lot of people off.
And they’re doing the same thing again. If 7 is a PS4 game, it should be a content patch for Sport.
At the rate that PD produces games, we’re now going to be stuck playing a PS4 game for the majority of the PS5’s lifespan.
GT7 as a genuin PS5 game was the only reason I was interested in buying a PS5. Now, there’s a good chance I’ll buy neither, at least not until I can get both dirt cheap. How is that good for sales?
The number of cars in an online lobby isn’t just about how many cars fit in the pit lane.
It’s a huge deal for cruising lobbies, car show lobbies, that kind of stuff. To this day, those are some of the most popular and highly populated lobbies still going.
For big events like nations cup and manufacturers cup, bigger grids is always better.
And many of us hope that Sport Mode gets expanded on, with a wider variety of races, including multi class endurance style races. You need more than 20 people per lobby to pull that off.
Think about all the new customization being added. Body kits, custom wheels sizes, decals on glass….all of this places load on the game. The PS4 can barely handle GTS, and people want to play “bigger” game on the same system? (Dynamic weather and dynamic time, with changing track conditions…on PS4??? Lol ya right buddy)
I’m willing to bet that cross generation online lobbies will cause more issues and more lag than 30 or 40 players in a PS5 exclusive lobby would.
We’ll see I guess. Won’t be a launch purchase for me though.
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Wasn't an adjustable computer shown as one of the upgrades? Might be something close to dyno tuning
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Looking forward to some videos being released of actual in game gameplay,also hoping its not going to be just gt sport with a few extra cars and tracks.Just my opinion. 👍
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They should bring back earlier GT's Power and Speed and expand that mode to include dyno. And probably record the car's performance by ourselves.
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GT5 suffered massive delays. Then, the release of GT5 was a disaster, the game was a dumpster fire. PD had to spend a lot of time and resources updating GT5 to version 2.0 to make the game decent.
All that combined to push development of GT6 way behind schedule.
Up to that point, we had seen two GT games per console generation. The delays to GT6 meant that it would come out right at the very end of the PS3 lifespan.
This caused a big debate, should GT6 be a PS3 title, or a PS4 launch title.
As we know, it became a PS3 title. Content wise, GT6 was almost exactly the same as GT5. Aside from the addition of some new cars and tracks, there were only minor differences that were barely noticeable. It was a waste of everyone’s time basically be forced to start GT5 over again, and it meant that the GT franchise fell completely out of sync with console life spans.
This is why we didn’t get GT Sport until well into the PS4 lifespan, why we haven’t seen a second GT title in PS4, and why GT7 is being released for PS4 AFTER PS5 has technically been launched.
Obviously, covid and micro chips have thrown a wrench in the gears.
That said, I would much rather see PD release a $20 DLC for GT Sport with some new tracks, new cars, new Scapes, and delay the launch of GT7 until PS5 sales can catch up to demand.
As things are, GT7, a supposed “next gen” game, will be limited by the constraints of the PS4 for basically it’s entire lifespan.
If PS5 lobbies were separate from PS4 lobbies, it wouldn’t be an issue. But since it’s been confirmed that there will be cross-generation lobbies, PS5 users will be constrained by the PS4.
All of that combines to make it really not worth while having to delete our entire garage, or entire livery collection, our entire decal collection, just to start a new game that is nothing more than some new cars and tracks running on the last gen console specs.
See my rant above.
Ultimately, because it means GT7 will be a PS4 limited game. At the rate that PD releases new games, we won’t see a true “next gen” GT game for another 4-5 years. And it’ll come at the end of the PS5 life cycle, and we’ll have this same debate about whether or not GT8 should be a PS5 title, or a PS6 launch title.
For those of us who have been racing online since Prologue, we’re ready for the next step. We want dynamic time, dynamic weather, 30, 40+ car grids, far better AI, etc etc…and the PS4 simply can’t handle all that stuff.
If the PS4 can handle all that stuff, then that stuff should be a content patch or DLC for GT Sport.
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