Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

[NICKname]

Please elaborate.

Well, if you choose to ignore all of its flaws it's flawless...

 

[Kedmasterz]

In licenses and track experiences?

In most case yes, except with some cars but that's what enabled me to gold some circuit experience when I couldn't find the few hundreds with TC. That's how it feels for me 🤷😉

 

[Zona]

Throttle control using pad is hard.

Turn off haptic feedback if you're on a PS5 and it's much easier.

 

[Magog]

Please elaborate.

It has the best graphics, sound, physics, loading times, AI, tracks, cars, and controller feedback of any racing game I've ever played. Horizon Zero Dawn was my second favorite game last gen but I haven't bought the sequel yet because $70 for a game is ridiculous to me but I happily paid full price for GT7 and felt I got an amazing value for the money. Could it have a bigger campaign? Sure it could and it will. I fully expect them to release a large amount of DLC tracks, cars, and events for free as they did with Sport.

 

[Tak92]

Whats up with people getting fast lap times in express way by riding the wall ? Sorry but thats not racing i know its a game but its suppose to be a sim.

 

[Gingerale]

I read very few reviews as I find most people writing them have no idea what a review is even supposed to be or a basic understanding of the English language but I have never seen a major publication give a bad review based on MTX implementation unless it's pay to win which GT7 is not.

So you say reviews never take mtx into account.

But also rarely read reviews?

 

[Magog]

So you say reviews never take mtx into account.

But also rarely read reviews?

It's not a contradictory statement. I've read enough to see they aren't taken into account except for pay to win games and even then they usually get a pass.

 

[GTboyz]

Turn off haptic feedback if you're on a PS5 and it's much easier.

PS4 unfortunately.

 

[Imari]

It has the best graphics, sound, physics, loading times, AI, tracks, cars, and controller feedback of any racing game I've ever played.

That's obviously true if you've only ever played Gran Turismo games.

It's also not a terribly useful opinion.

 

[McLaren]

I'm looking at it from a logical perspective. MTX aren't taken into consideration in video game reviews as a rule.

Excluding the obvious question of, "How would you even know what 'rules' there are if you barely read reviews to begin with", MTXs absolutely are taken into consideration, this is wrong.

Update 5th March: As you will see from the review, no mention of the microtransactions were made. This was because the cost of these was hidden. Now I know this, combined with something I did mention - the grind - I can't overlook this matter of concern. Much like my many complaints against Ubisoft for forcing grind into their recent games to sell the solution, this is certainly present in Gran Turismo 7. As such, I will be adjusting my score from 9/10 to 8/10, though I will say the many qualities still make it a great title, it's just a shame it's been plagued by terrible decisions.

Gran Turismo 7 Review - I'm in Love with My Car [Updated & Score Lowered due to Microtransactions]

Gran Turismo 7 is here and marks a return to what people expect from Polyphony Digital games, but just how good or bad is it? Let's find out.

wccftech.com

Zarmena writes… I’ve always found the practice of making microtransactions available post-launch a bit iffy since they can’t be taken into account in reviews. I understand that Polyphony Digital was going for realism with the whole Hagerty thing, but considering the prices of the credit bundles and the inability to purchase cars individually like we could in Gran Turismo Sport, the whole thing just comes across a bit ill-advised. Let’s see how Sony responds to players’ concerns.

Gran Turismo 7 Microtransactions and Dynamic Car Prices Causes Concern

Gran Turismo 7 microtransactions have come under fire especially after it was revealed that in-game car prices will be dynamic.

www.playstationlifestyle.net

It's especially dismaying that the full scope of this new cash-for-credits scheme was only revealed after the review process was completed. Yes, it is an optional shortcut, but considering credits build fairly slowly via racing, you can’t sell cars from your garage, and a number of GT7’s coolest cars have been made artificially scarce, at what point do we call it predatory? With rare cars in the legendary dealer rotating in availability before they’re “sold out” (and unobtainable to you in your single-player game), and others that require peculiar, time-limited, in-game invitations to actually purchase, it’s definitely easy to see how some players who know they won’t have the time to build a large amount of credits by racing may be compelled to part with real cash to snag certain cars before they’re gone.

Gran Turismo 7 Review - IGN

Mixing the original GT’s trendsetting format with GT Sport’s stern but very successful focus on competitive online racing, Gran Turismo 7 makes a few errors but is a potent podium performance from developer Polyphony Digital.

www.ign.com

I read very few reviews as I find most people writing them have no idea what a review is even supposed to be or a basic understanding of the English language but I have never seen a major publication give a bad review based on MTX implementation unless it's pay to win which GT7 is not.

There's strong hints of irony here....

 

[Nielsen]

It has the best graphics, sound, physics, loading times, AI, tracks, cars, and controller feedback of any racing game I've ever played. Horizon Zero Dawn was my second favorite game last gen but I haven't bought the sequel yet because $70 for a game is ridiculous to me but I happily paid full price for GT7 and felt I got an amazing value for the money. Could it have a bigger campaign? Sure it could and it will. I fully expect them to release a large amount of DLC tracks, cars, and events for free as they did with Sport.

You are entitled to your opinion, but saying the game is “terrific” is a little oversimplified just because its individual elements are very likeable. Also, clearly you haven’t played many racing titles if GT7 offers the best AI you have experienced.

In my opinion it takes more than great graphics, sound, content, etc. for a game to stand out from the bunch. It has to make good use of its best qualities, which GT7 doesn’t. The game is burdened by unfulfilled potential that could easily come into fruition if PD didn’t insist on this understated approach to game design.

 

[JDMKING13]

You are entitled to your opinion, but saying the game is “terrific” is a little oversimplified just because its individual elements are very likeable. Also, clearly you haven’t played many racing titles if GT7 offers the best AI you have experienced.

In my opinion it takes more than great graphics, sound, content, etc. for a game to stand out from the bunch. It has to make good use of its best qualities, which GT7 doesn’t. The game is burdened by unfulfilled potential that could easily come into fruition if PD didn’t insist on this understated approach to game design.

What racing game on a console you feel is better than GT7 in your opinion?

 

[THOMASBARNES]

wait, did someone have the audacity to praise GT7?! how dare they?!

 

[Nielsen]

What racing game on a console you feel is better than GT7 in your opinion?

Gran Turismo Sport

I could mention more, but there’s no point when PD’s own predecessor represents a benchmark.

 

[JDMKING13]

Gran Turismo Sport

I could mention more, but there’s no point when PD’s own predecessor represents a benchmark.

Wait… so your rather play GTS than GT7 ok I gotcha.

 

[Hellburner]

Whats up with people getting fast lap times in express way by riding the wall ? Sorry but thats not racing i know its a game but its suppose to be a sim.

My daughter loves the sparkles in the replay... 😊 To be fair, PD could have made the walls 'stick' or made them irregular so you would bounce off or get stuck. Now they give you a perfectly smooth surface, no wonder people start exploiting it.

 

[Samus]

Wait… so your rather play GTS than GT7 ok I gotcha.

Well it has more races to do than GT7 as of right now for one thing.

 

[Hellburner]

It has the best graphics, sound, physics, loading times, AI, tracks, cars, and controller feedback of any racing game I've ever played. Horizon Zero Dawn was my second favorite game last gen but I haven't bought the sequel yet because $70 for a game is ridiculous to me but I happily paid full price for GT7 and felt I got an amazing value for the money. Could it have a bigger campaign? Sure it could and it will. I fully expect them to release a large amount of DLC tracks, cars, and events for free as they did with Sport.

I always think of Pac-man when I see the GT7 AI drivers following the yellow racing line.

 

[Nielsen]

Wait… so your rather play GTS than GT7 ok I gotcha.

I would rather play GT Sport if PD was still supporting it with content. They obviously had to move on to GT7 sooner or later, so I also moved on as the old game became irrelevant.

GT7 does some things better than GT Sport, but sadly it does most things worse than GT Sport. In my opinion…

 

[JDMKING13]

Well it has more races to do than GT7 as of right now for one thing.

The driving alone in GT7 puts GTS to rest in my opinion… The races alone with better AI weather condition, time lapse, elevation changes that actually make you change the style of your driving etc… the fact I can actually build a track car from a stock production car, the sounds etc. I understand people not like GT7 but to say GTS is an overall better game especially how many updates GTS got in its life time compared to GT7…. Nahhh

 

[Nielsen]

The driving alone in GT7 puts GTS to rest in my opinion…

The driving in GT7 may feel more alive, but there’s still work to do before I’d call it an improvement.

 

[Terronium-12]

Wait… so your rather play GTS than GT7 ok I gotcha.

Honestly, while GT7 has better tuning and upgrade features, I'd rather play Sport as well. How a primarily esports-focused title has more of the traditional Gran Turismo "feel" than the game that released after the fact with the promise of returning to the series' roots does less than that is something I dare not try to comprehend.

The AI isn't better in either game, they're exactly the same and just as dumb. The physics, for the greater majority of the cars I've used thus far, are worse. For everything GT7 does better, and there are quite a few things, it's marred by questionable design choices, such as license tests having absolutely no value beyond Standard A; invitations that don't add anything to the game in any way other than gating off content, and there's no real career mode to speak of.

GT7 has the best Arcade Mode of any numbered entry in the franchise. It's a shame that they've completely forgotten about Simulation Mode.

 

[CodeRedR51]

wait, did someone have the audacity to praise GT7?! how dare they?!

Its quickly becoming very taboo around here.

 

[NikNakTobasco]

Gt7 has a lot going for it but the AI is definitely not one of them. It’s offensively bad. I can’t imagine how bad Sport was if this is an improvement.

 

[JDMKING13]

The driving in GT7 may feel more alive, but there’s still work to do before I’d call it an improvement.

Come on man seriously?? This is when I feel as people dislike for GT taints their opinion.. you said yourself the cars are more alive.. that right there in itself is an improvement… people like GTS physics for only one reason… it made people feel good about their driving… GT7 while not perfect is wayyyyy better than GTS.. the feedback from the wheel itself is better than GTS I can go on but honestly it’s really no point.. not trying to come out you with any disrespect but you lost me when you said GTS is a better game than GT7… even with GT7 flaws and it does have many is way better than GTS… It’s cool though we all have our opinion man you like GTS better I gotcha it was a good game I will agree with you on that.

Honestly, while GT7 has better tuning and upgrade features, I'd rather play Sport as well. How a primarily esports-focused title has more of the traditional Gran Turismo "feel" than the game that released after the fact with the promise of returning to the series' roots does less than that is something I dare not try to comprehend.

The AI isn't better in either game, they're exactly the same and just as dumb. The physics, for the greater majority of the cars I've used thus far, are worse. For everything GT7 does better, and there are quite a few things, it's marred by questionable design choices, such as license tests having absolutely no value beyond Standard A; invitations that don't add anything to the game in any way other than gating off content, and there's no real career mode to speak of.

GT7 has the best Arcade Mode of any numbered entry in the franchise. It's a shame that they've completely forgotten about Simulation Mode.

Wait GTS has a more Traditional feel? The same game people on this forums was killing GTS for not being your normal GT game? Ok.
Come on man the AI is way better than GTS… again talking on a GT scale… I never lost or had to try hard against the AI in GTS.. it was terrible at least in GT7 you get in some heated races.. there is still some races I have yet to beat. So I can’t agree with you there sorry… The license test has been the same in GT for how long come on really? Again Yes GT7 has some flaws but please show me a game that doesn’t but to call GTS better than GT7 I’m sorry I can’t agree but it’s your opinion it’s cool.

 

[JDMKING13]

@NikNakTobasco The AI in GTS was terrible while GT7 doesn’t have the best AI it still way better than GTS… the chilli pepper races in GT7 alone kill everything GTS ever had.

 

[NICKname]

It has the best [...] AI

 

[Samus]

Wait GTS has a more Traditional feel? The same game people on this forums was killing GTS for not being your normal GT game? Ok.

I assume he's referring to the fact that by the end of the games life it had a huge menu full of events to complete, that was pretty much like all the previous games.

GT7 doesn't have that, as you know. It has the Cafe Mode and races are all selected at the circuit.

 

[JDMKING13]

I assume he's referring to the fact that by the end of the games life it had a huge menu full of events to complete, that was pretty much like all the previous games.

GT7 doesn't have that, as you know. It has the Cafe Mode and races are all selected at the circuit.

Your key word “at the end of its life!” Do you remember when GTS first came out? Why are you guys not comparing like that?

 

[RedRockValley]

I simply can't agree with GTS physics being better than GT7.

Most cars in GTS handle like dead fish compared to when I drive them in GT7. GT7 is just way more intuitive, more engaging to drive. It's not perfect sure, but I haven't had many of the issues some others are seeming to have with cars such as the old American muscle variety.

For reference, I play on PS4 so none of the fancy DualSense feedback stuff for me and the only assist I use is weak ABS, but I often turn that off for pre-90s cars.