Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

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Come on man seriously?? This is when I feel as people dislike for GT taints their opinion..
I don’t dislike Gran Turismo.
you said yourself the cars are more alive.. that right there in itself is an improvement…
How so? The boring Peugeot in my driveway feels stiffer than the 208 GTi in GT7. Even when going for a spirited drive on small roads in the countryside.
people like GTS physics for only one reason… it made people feel good about their driving…
Isn’t this what simulation is supposed to make people feel? You say it like it’s a bad trait.
GT7 while not perfect is wayyyyy better than GTS.. the feedback from the wheel itself is better than GTS I can go on but honestly it’s really no point.. not trying to come out you with any disrespect but you lost me when you said GTS is a better game than GT7… even with GT7 flaws and it does have many is way better than GTS… It’s cool though we all have our opinion man you like GTS better I gotcha it was a good game I will agree with you on that.
Fair enough. Disagreement is fine.
 
Your key word “at the end of its life!” Do you remember when GTS first came out? Why are you guys not comparing like that?
Because that's the product we have right now? Why, in April 2022, would we compare GTS at launch when deciding and talking about which game we prefer to play in April 2022?

GT7, releasing after GTS with all it's updates SHOULD have superseded it in every way. It sadly didn't, only in some areas.
 
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Wait GTS has a more Traditional feel? The same game people on this forums was killing GTS for not being your normal GT game? Ok.

As GT Sport is now, in its current state? Yes, absolutely. Show me one League event in GT7. Just one.

And I was one of those people, and you know what? I still don't like GT Sport but I'm not going to pretend GT7 is a better game than it (GT Sport) currently is.


Come on man the AI is way better than GTS… again talking on a GT scale… I never lost or had to try hard against the AI in GTS.. it was terrible at least in GT7 you get in some heated races.. there is still some races I have yet to beat. So I can’t agree with you there sorry…

Having a stronger slipstream effect and not being bound to the same in-game laws of physics that we are doesn't make it "better". The AI still only sees its pre-determined racing line and nothing else. Yes, they'll occasionally move aside when you're faster than they are, but the AI is the same.

The license test has been the same in GT for how long come on really?

So you're telling me that previous GT titles didn't require the latter licenses as well? Am I remembering past GT game incorrectly?

Again Yes GT7 has some flaws but please show me a game that doesn’t but to call GTS better than GT7 I’m sorry I can’t agree but it’s your opinion it’s cool.

GT7 is significantly more flawed for the reasons I pointed out. Disagreement is fine, that's what a discussion is — disagree with me all you want.
 
Yes, they'll occasionally move aside when you're faster than they are, but the AI is the same.
Key word is occasionally. I've still had a multi-lapped Demio try being aggressive toward me as if we were even still in the same race.

That race (and the next after it...) also had super bad rubberbanding. I haven't been playing nearly as much as I used to (the expected outcome of a lack of content) so maybe I'm just getting unlucky, but I'd rather not race against this AI again.
 
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I always think of Pac-man when I see the GT7 AI drivers following the yellow racing line.
You haven't played the game if you think that's how they behave.

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The AI car on the left is passing the AI car on the right by squeezing against the wall. I've seen hundreds of similar instances in GT7. The AI far superior to what was in Sport especially in the spicy races.
 
You haven't played the game if you think that's how they behave.

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The AI car on the left is passing the AI car on the right by squeezing against the wall. I've seen hundreds of similar instances in GT7. The AI far superior to what was in Sport especially in the spicy races.
Like yea you wanna compare GT7 to the other games I agree with you it’s lacking… but to GTS??? The races in GTS were terrible the AI did nothing… once in a blue moon you would get the ai trying to do something… it’s nothing like GT7.. I’ve been blocked and lost the race from the AI.
 
Because GT7 is based on GT Sport. It's not as if they started from scratch, like they did with GT Sport. They already had a full game to improve upon.

And they did. More cars, more tracks and literally every aspect of the game has been improved from Sport.
 
And they did. More cars, more tracks and literally every aspect of the game has been improved from Sport.

Except for high payout races, endurance events, more events altogether, a career structure — all of which are coming (or have arrived in its first wave) in future updates. So not "literally every aspect" then. Unless you know something no one else does and GT7 does, in fact, have all of these things over GT Sport?
 
The AI is too slow. You can’t take proper racing lines because they randomly go at a crawl. The fact that you can regularly overtake the entire field is proof enough they are useless.
While I agree with you but some of the races are tough man and it’s not that hard to see all you gotta do is read around the forums.. people having trouble with many races in GT7… I think they had to make some races where it’s just not hard… also do you normally use the same class cars or you just getting over powers cars? I know I’ve gotten beating when using same class or weaker cars in the races. This was never the case for GTS. If they made all the races to the difficulty like getting golds on CE or License test people would be crying a River…
 
And they did. More cars, more tracks and literally every aspect of the game has been improved from Sport.
Do you just enjoy being wrong all the time? Ask the people who play in online lobbies if they've improved. Tell us how having far less single player events than GTS offline is improving things. Tell us how not having events for Gr.2, Gr.1 and speciality cars like the Super Formula is an improvement. And don't give me that "Custom races" excuse, GTS has those as well. Going from custom races + pre-made events to only custom races is not an improvement.
 
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literally every aspect of the game has been improved from Sport
Except there's about an eighth as many races, including the absence of races for many car classes and types that were present in GT Sport, and somehow they managed to make Multiplayer worse in terms of both connectivity and options; lobby settings are literally locked and you cannot change them. That means that if you run a race series for people with multiple tracks each session you need to shut the entire lobby down and start it again with the new track.

And you'll need to enter every setting again, because you can't save lobby settings. So if you get one wrong... shut it all down and try again.

Then there's the new inability to transfer photos onto USB drives...


Honestly, if you think literally every aspect of the game has been improved from Sport you either haven't played Sport enough, or 7 enough, or both. Or you're just making clearly false stuff up, which would be on form.
 
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While I agree with you but some of the races are tough man and it’s not that hard to see all you gotta do is read around the forums.. people having trouble with many races in GT7… I think they had to make some races where it’s just not hard… also do you normally use the same class cars or you just getting over powers cars? I know I’ve gotten beating when using same class or weaker cars in the races. This was never the case for GTS. If they made all the races to the difficulty like getting golds on CE or License test people would be crying a River…
Some are hard. I choose equal cars. I don’t always win. But that’s only because I’ve ran out of laps. There’s no reason I should be catching up on the straights like I do. It’s like they aren’t full throttle. Starting last it should be basically impossible to come top 5.
 
The AI is too slow. You can’t take proper racing lines because they randomly go at a crawl. The fact that you can regularly overtake the entire field is proof enough they are useless.
Don't even get me started on them parking, or crawling at extreme low speeds, at the apexes of any chicane, especially the Fords at the end of a lap of Le Sarthe. Or moving into your path to block you under blue flags when you lap them, a crime for which you'd be reprimanded in reality.
 
You haven't played the game if you think that's how they behave.

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The AI car on the left is passing the AI car on the right by squeezing against the wall. I've seen hundreds of similar instances in GT7. The AI far superior to what was in Sport especially in the spicy races.
Looks to me like 2 AI trying to rigidly stick to their programmed line and getting in each others way.

The AI is terrible in this game, calling it AI is being generous as well with the intelligence part.
 
It has the best graphics, sound, physics, loading times, AI, tracks, cars, and controller feedback of any racing game I've ever played. Horizon Zero Dawn was my second favorite game last gen but I haven't bought the sequel yet because $70 for a game is ridiculous to me but I happily paid full price for GT7 and felt I got an amazing value for the money. Could it have a bigger campaign? Sure it could and it will. I fully expect them to release a large amount of DLC tracks, cars, and events for free as they did with Sport.
To the bolded, no..

The car sounds while correct are far too tame sounding on cars that should sound very aggressive. GT Sport suffered from the same issue:




That's just one example but the car sounds much more 'racey' in real life than it does in-game, which makes alot of the supercars and racecars feel more like tuned up roadcars in GT7.
 
Except for high payout races, endurance events, more events altogether, a career structure — all of which are coming (or have arrived in its first wave) in future updates. So not "literally every aspect" then. Unless you know something no one else does and GT7 does, in fact, have all of these things over GT Sport?
Why are you choosing to ignore all the content we just got? You can earn credits faster than in Sport and there are a bunch of endurance races. Also the career is the cafe. Love it or hate it they did something different. If you just want to play GT4 that game is available pretty cheap used. I liked the cafe personally and I look forward to all of the future events they will be adding over time. That was what made Sport great. They kept the game alive with tons of content. I much prefer that to a single content dump like GT4.
 
Why are you choosing to ignore all the content we just got? You can earn credits faster than in Sport and there are a bunch of endurance races. Also the career is the cafe. Love it or hate it they did something different. If you just want to play GT4 that game is available pretty cheap used. I liked the cafe personally and I look forward to all of the future events they will be adding over time. That was what made Sport great. They kept the game alive with tons of content. I much prefer that to a single content dump like GT4.
The endurance races are done once and done. I'd take a remake of GT2, GT3 or GT4 over this. It is better than GT6 but being better than the worse GT game of the all isn't what I'd call praise.

Do you have a wheel? If so. Check out ACC. It beats GT7 in most areas. Steer clear if your are a controller user though.
 
Why are you choosing to ignore all the content we just got?

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Except for high payout races, endurance events, more events altogether, a career structure — all of which are coming (or have arrived in its first wave) in future updates. So not "literally every aspect" then. Unless you know something no one else does and GT7 does, in fact, have all of these things over GT Sport?

Except for high payout races, endurance events, more events altogether, a career structure — all of which are coming (or have arrived in its first wave) in future updates.

all of which are coming (or have arrived in its first wave) in future updates.

(or have arrived in its first wave)

Does that look like I've ignored anything? You quoted me, verbatim. It's right there, in your face. How you'd then go on to make this baseless claim is a spectacular feat. Congratulations

You can earn credits faster than in Sport and there are a bunch of endurance races.

Which has...nothing to do with what I originally said? Again, you quoted me, verbatim, meaning word-for-word, and this is what you took away from it? Even if GT7 does allow one to amass credits faster than in Sport, which may very well be true and I wouldn't really be surprised, it doesn't have a ton of variety. Variety that GT Sport in its current state has.

Oh, and the endurance races are one and done.


I liked the cafe personally and I look forward to all of the future events they will be adding over time. That was what made Sport great. They kept the game alive with tons of content. I much prefer that to a single content dump like GT4.

So you prefer a game that lacks content in comparison to its direct predecessor but will be improved over time, as opposed to something that's content rich on the day of release? That's your preference but it's most certainly an odd one.
 
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Does that look like I've ignored anything? You quoted me, verbatim. It's right there, in your face. How you'd then go on to make this baseless claim is a spectacular feat. Congratulations/



Which has...nothing to do with what I originally said? Again, you quoted me, verbatim, meaning word-for-word, and this is what you took away from it? Even if GT7 does allow one to amass credits faster than in Sport, which may very well be true and I wouldn't really be surprised, it doesn't have a ton of variety. Variety that GT Sport in its current state has.

Oh, and the endurance races are one and done.



So you prefer a game that lacks content in comparison to its direct predecessor but will be improved over time, as opposed to something that's content rich on the day of release? That's your preference but it's most certainly an odd one.

You mentioned it and then proceeded to make complaints as if it didn't exist. That's ignoring it.
 
Why are you choosing to ignore all the content we just got?
He referred to it in his post. How is that "choosing to ignore" it. Also "all the content" is no content; it's three races using existing content.

Why are you choosing to ignore all the aspects in which GT7 does not improve upon, and indeed is worse than, GT Sport in your statement that "literally every aspect of the game has been improved from Sport"?
 
You mentioned it and then proceeded to make complaints as if it didn't exist. That's ignoring it.

No, ignoring it would have been me not mentioning it at all. How did I choose to ignore something that I referred to in the previous post? You even state that I just mentioned it. :lol:

Why are you choosing to ignore the actual point being made?
 
You haven't played the game if you think that's how they behave.

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The AI car on the left is passing the AI car on the right by squeezing against the wall. I've seen hundreds of similar instances in GT7. The AI far superior to what was in Sport especially in the spicy races.
It really is, you can actually have a race with them now. They seem to be even better when you set up a custom race
 
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