Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

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OMG amen to that brother, I feel the EXCAT same way. I wish I never bought into PD's lies once again... Never ever giving them any chances again.
Literally the very first thing displayed on the screen during the announcement trailer was a lie. PS5 exclusive lol. That sure sold some systems that very night.

Personally, I don't even see PSVR2 compatibility happening. Not outside a demo event like GT Sport. Perhaps it would be best if Kaz retired because I feel like there needs to be new blood injected into the studio.

Like, man, Rennsport was unveiled this past weekend and lo and behold, it had a cockpit cam without the wheel and hands in front. Something people have been begging PD to do over a decade. It's a no-brainer, afterall.
 
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I just wish the people saying they're done with the game, the franchise, PD, the PS5.. etc. etc. would also be done with the section of GTP where people that aren't done with any of that stuff would like to congregate, without the hecklers flinging turds in socks at every discussion...

... maybe it's just me.

I already know this will get a load of poo emoji's, and people suggesting I'd be better off in some kind of echo chamber, but I don't think I'll ever understand the mentality of people that dedicate so much time to ******** on what other people like, when instead they could walk away and do something more positive with their lives.

Is this complaining about complaining, yes... I suppose it is, intolerance of intolerance at the end of the day.
 
I guess we're going to be seeing this as 1 of the 3 cars in the June update...


Actually, spoke too soon. Make that 2 of 3:


Perhaps even 3 of 3:

The GT300 car would be awesome, tbh. Totally different animal to the Subaru one we just got.
 
OMG amen to that brother, I feel the EXCAT same way. I wish I never bought into PD's lies once again... Never ever giving them any chances again.
Same here man. I feel that PD really capitalised on the whole nostalgia aspect of their fans. Even in the description of the game that is still up, it claims that the classic GT simulation mode returns. Not to mention the selling part.
 
I already know this will get a load of poo emoji's, and people suggesting I'd be better off in some kind of echo chamber, but I don't think I'll ever understand the mentality of people that dedicate so much time to ******** on what other people like, when instead they could walk away and do something more positive with their lives.
I would like Polyphony to learn from their mistakes, to create a better game. Because I know they can.

They simply have no desire to do so, and it's actively hurting their reputation, the series' image, and causing fans to give up and **** on the game, as it were.

There's a reason why people are mad. You being mad at them for being mad (rightfully) is absolutely going to be complaining about the complainers, especially when said complainers have merit.
 
That’s why I believe Pikes Peak could be a paid DLC candidate. Firstly, it’s a huge amount of work to create the whole track. Fully worthy of paid DLC. Secondly, it isn’t particularly suitable for online competition or official events. So no worries about splitting the userbase.

It’s basically single-player DLC.
Oh honey, no.
You've seen the rage over lobbies not having the desired functionality right? You think people aren't going to want to compete directly and flexibly against each other on Pikes Peak? People can't do that if their friends can't afford to spend even more on one track. You think PD wouldn't ever want to at least have some form of online competition set there at some point? It's very suitable for official competitive events because the location itself hosts very famous official competitive events. You then start pricing people out of the competition who may otherwise have a chance at doing well - last thing this game needs is even more barriers to the competitive corner of the game. And it would rule it out from ever being used in a daily race or daily time trial (where Pikes Peak would be very appropriate), since it would leave that part of the game dead for a significant share of players for at least a week.
Also, a huge amount of work? By that logic, shouldn't the Nurburgring have been held back for paid DLC? That's pretty long.

Paid DLC like this does at least 1 of 2 things every single time - splits the playerbase, or leaves the paid-for content barely used and effectively DOA/cut off from the rest of the game. I always find it so weird when people go out of their way to argue why they should get less for their money, or pay more than is rational, or pay in order to specifically screw up the thing they claim to like/enjoy. Paid DLC is a bad idea when used in this way on a game like this.
 
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I just wish the people saying they're done with the game, the franchise, PD, the PS5.. etc. etc. would also be done with the section of GTP where people that aren't done with any of that stuff would like to congregate, without the hecklers flinging turds in socks at every discussion...

... maybe it's just me.

I already know this will get a load of poo emoji's, and people suggesting I'd be better off in some kind of echo chamber, but I don't think I'll ever understand the mentality of people that dedicate so much time to ******** on what other people like, when instead they could walk away and do something more positive with their lives.

Is this complaining about complaining, yes... I suppose it is, intolerance of intolerance at the end of the day.
In my experience of being on forums in the past decade alone, I slowly came to the conclusion that forums in general have become nothing but a bastion of complaints, both legit and nonsensical (as well as being forced) such as a certain someone here complaining about my strong devotion to a certain musician some months earlier... It's not just here. On forums of other fandoms, I found just as equally a lot of nonsensical takes about certain characters and stuff, making me want to throw myself off a cliff whilst stabbing myself with a knife multiple times as I fall off that cliff. (lol)

In other words, unfortunately, it's the norm in forums like this. =/
 
Well Dai Yoshihara's Tesla Model 3 just got a new livery for Pikes Peak, and we know that the car is coming to the game soon. The image of the Suzuki VGT on Pikes Peak is a blatant reference to the Suzuki Escudo, and the event itself is coming up in a few weeks... It's either a coincidence or a sign of things to come.
 
We did get the GR010 last month and the WEC Spa 6h happened earlier in the same month. It's all possible.
 
I just wish the people saying they're done with the game, the franchise, PD, the PS5.. etc. etc. would also be done with the section of GTP where people that aren't done with any of that stuff would like to congregate, without the hecklers flinging turds in socks at every discussion...

... maybe it's just me.

I already know this will get a load of poo emoji's, and people suggesting I'd be better off in some kind of echo chamber, but I don't think I'll ever understand the mentality of people that dedicate so much time to ******** on what other people like, when instead they could walk away and do something more positive with their lives.

Is this complaining about complaining, yes... I suppose it is, intolerance of intolerance at the end of the day.
Well, that's the result of GTPlanet's policy on "free speech": a circlejerk of emotionally frustrated people whose only satisfaction in life are their feeble attempts to bully anyone who dares voice an opinion they don't like. Some people here are gratuitously obnoxious and some think they can be obnoxious based on longevity/past contributions.

Not much different from other, old time forums, each with their own horror stories. Reddit is no answer either, because it promotes cancelation of people who disagree with the established opinion of the sub. Such are online communities.

I keep visiting forums because they're still a good source of information and I like to share what I know, but take any gaming forum today and you have to dig information out of the mud of complaints. They feel like dungeons full of trolls guarding the treasures.

You'd believe Gran Turismo 7, Forza Horizon 5 and The Crew 2 are failures if you just read their forums. The biggest issue with the internet is how it makes the opinion of 0.05% sound more like 50%.
 
In my experience of being on forums in the past decade alone, I slowly came to the conclusion that forums in general have become nothing but a bastion of complaints, both legit and nonsensical (as well as being forced) such as a certain someone here complaining about my strong devotion to a certain musician some months earlier... It's not just here. On forums of other fandoms, I found just as equally a lot of nonsensical takes about certain characters and stuff, making me want to throw myself off a cliff whilst stabbing myself with a knife multiple times as I fall off that cliff. (lol)

In other words, unfortunately, it's the norm in forums like this. =/
I'd argue that this forum is super laid back. The CSL DD is quite the expensive wheel and it barely works now. I haven't a twitter account but if there isn't an uproar about there being pretty much no word on a date for a fix, I'd be shocked.
 
I do not think people just complain to complain in here, I think one on part yes it can become annoying to see complaints every thread everywhere (especially if your trying to find a news or some sort from GT7). But is it also selfish for those who do not complain to mention that they (complainers) should keep their voices down or simply stop complaining because it takes away the fun or excitement of the game (in a way).

I believe its better to understand these complaints (no matter how frequently it comes) instead of pushing them away.

Perhaps in a very far dream a PD employee will see said threads and use them as feedback to better the game (I dont know just a thought).

As crazy as it sounds but a game or something in general only gets better when pressure/protest or dissatisfaction of a community/people is thrown towards it. (I mean its common history).

The state that GT7 is in is pretty awfull, there are several good things that it does but the bad is outweighing its good parts and thats where the problem lies because the core principals of what made GT in the past so good are missing.
Some design choices that absolutely hurts the game or make it unplayable.
Lack of content and features.
Lets not even talk about Multiplayer/Lobbie settings. And theres so much more negative that can be found instead of the good stuff it does.

Its not a matter of it will "soon" get fixed either some of these are the core principals in what should have been focused on because it affects in both short and longterm how the game playout.

Everybody wants to enjoy the game but if it continues the state its in, nobody will and thats the simple reality.
 
So then they'd want a premium $70 price for the game, extremely expensive MTX, and paid DLC?

If future additions aren't free, they might just be one of the greediest game devs in recent history.
$70 is standard pricing for every AAA game on the market.

MTX and cosmetic DLC, none of which need to be used, are standard practice in many AAA titles.

Paid DLC expansions are a standard part of AAA gaming, from Forza Horizon, to The Last of Us, to Ghost’s of Tsushima. By it’s very nature paid DLC is optional and is usually developed because there is demand.
 
Well, that's the result of GTPlanet's policy on "free speech": a circlejerk of emotionally frustrated people whose only satisfaction in life are their feeble attempts to bully anyone who dares voice an opinion they don't like. Some people here are gratuitously obnoxious and some think they can be obnoxious based on longevity/past contributions.
This is rich coming from the guy who runs his mouth on things he knows nothing about, and then completely ignores people who directly challenge him on his very wrong points, even when they're moderators and people who actually know a thing or two.
 
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Hoping to start adding more to this at the end of the month.
 
I just wish the people saying they're done with the game, the franchise, PD, the PS5.. etc. etc. would also be done with the section of GTP where people that aren't done with any of that stuff would like to congregate, without the hecklers flinging turds in socks at every discussion...

... maybe it's just me.

I already know this will get a load of poo emoji's, and people suggesting I'd be better off in some kind of echo chamber, but I don't think I'll ever understand the mentality of people that dedicate so much time to ******** on what other people like, when instead they could walk away and do something more positive with their lives.

Is this complaining about complaining, yes... I suppose it is, intolerance of intolerance at the end of the day.

Exactly. I've seen so many people say they're done with GT, and yet here they are.
 
anyone one having issues with the mustang boss 429 not turning on corners ? it almost feels like the wheels (g923) are disconnecting and re connecting even when i drive in the inside car view i can see the hand motion laging when i turn the wheels can someone who owns this car try it and see if you have the same problem ? thanks..
 
anyone one having issues with the mustang boss 429 not turning on corners ? it almost feels like the wheels (g923) are disconnecting and re connecting even when i drive in the inside car view i can see the hand motion laging when i turn the wheels can someone who owns this car try it and see if you have the same problem ? thanks..
Raise it up.
 
I just wish the people saying they're done with the game, the franchise, PD, the PS5.. etc. etc. would also be done with the section of GTP where people that aren't done with any of that stuff would like to congregate, without the hecklers flinging turds in socks at every discussion...

... maybe it's just me.

I already know this will get a load of poo emoji's, and people suggesting I'd be better off in some kind of echo chamber, but I don't think I'll ever understand the mentality of people that dedicate so much time to ******** on what other people like, when instead they could walk away and do something more positive with their lives.

Is this complaining about complaining, yes... I suppose it is, intolerance of intolerance at the end of the day.
Pretty much every one of my posts is followed by sarcastic comments or downvotes. Yet I always try to be polite, informed, and answer reasonable questions.

Whether it’s sales discussions, news about a possible movie, or, God forbid, discussion about the actual game. There is a very obvious attempt to undermine PD and derail threads. This despite the mods being kind enough to provide (more than one) bitching & whining thread.

I’ve been a reader of this site for two decade’s. There’s been a very notable shift towards toxicity. I honestly can’t believe some of the abuse aimed at Kaz & PD developers. It’s all become very personal and should never come to this over a videogame.

I’ve played every Gran Turismo and much of the competition (on console & PC). GT7 is a flawed but excellent instalment. With so much further potential in the coming years. There’s a clear disconnect between some commentators who would have you believe PD’s design decisions for GT7, ie the Cafe mode, are awful. Yet it’s this more approachable mode that is bringing in so many more mainstream gamers. You could argue it needs more content. But that’s a different discussion.

GT7 is the first Gran Turismo since GT5 that you can truly say is a cornerstone of PlayStation’s output & marketing focus. I’m pleased to see the franchise back on top.

I’m also pleased to see constructive criticism. I can say without question I would not have purchased GT7 if the sound had not been improved since GT6. GT Sport was a big step in the right direction. While GT7 is simply fantastic in the sound department.

Well, that's the result of GTPlanet's policy on "free speech": a circlejerk of emotionally frustrated people whose only satisfaction in life are their feeble attempts to bully anyone who dares voice an opinion they don't like. Some people here are gratuitously obnoxious and some think they can be obnoxious based on longevity/past contributions.

Not much different from other, old time forums, each with their own horror stories. Reddit is no answer either, because it promotes cancelation of people who disagree with the established opinion of the sub. Such are online communities.

I keep visiting forums because they're still a good source of information and I like to share what I know, but take any gaming forum today and you have to dig information out of the mud of complaints. They feel like dungeons full of trolls guarding the treasures.

You'd believe Gran Turismo 7, Forza Horizon 5 and The Crew 2 are failures if you just read their forums. The biggest issue with the internet is how it makes the opinion of 0.05% sound more like 50%.
It seems silly to talk about “free speech” about something as inconsequential as videogames. With that said, I don’t see “free speech” extending to protect those who the dish out personal abuse to PD staff (and others). Maybe it’s been normalised and only a set of fresh eyes notices this toxicity?

We’re 3 months on from GT7’s launch. If you’re fortunate to own a PS5 you can still sell it above RRP. If you snagged yourself a copy of the 25th Special Edition. You can sell it for double the RRP. Everyone’s a winner.😆
 
There’s a clear disconnect between some commentators who would have you believe PD’s design decisions for GT7, ie the Cafe mode, are awful.. Yet it’s this more approachable mode that is bringing in so many more mainstream gamers
There you go again. Where is your data to support this? Besides, even if it were true, does that make the non-mainstream players wrong? What happened to catering to everyone?
 
Oh honey, no.
You've seen the rage over lobbies not having the desired functionality right? You think people aren't going to want to compete directly and flexibly against each other on Pikes Peak? People can't do that if their friends can't afford to spend even more on one track. You think PD wouldn't ever want to at least have some form of online competition set there at some point? It's very suitable for official competitive events because the location itself hosts very famous official competitive events. You then start pricing people out of the competition who may otherwise have a chance at doing well - last thing this game needs is even more barriers to the competitive corner of the game. And it would rule it out from ever being used in a daily race or daily time trial (where Pikes Peak would be very appropriate), since it would leave that part of the game dead for a significant share of players for at least a week.
Also, a huge amount of work? By that logic, shouldn't the Nurburgring have been held back for paid DLC? That's pretty long.

Paid DLC like this does at least 1 of 2 things every single time - splits the playerbase, or leaves the paid-for content barely used and effectively DOA/cut off from the rest of the game. I always find it so weird when people go out of their way to argue why they should get less for their money, or pay more than is rational, or pay in order to specifically screw up the thing they claim to like/enjoy. Paid DLC is a bad idea when used in this way on a game like this.
Pikes Peak isn’t suitable for anything but Hillclimbs, Time Trials, Touge or Cruising. It’s essentially a single-player piece of content. It’s why I believe we got the Goodwood Circuit in GT Sport but not the Hillclimb.

Competitive competition will be on regular tracks released as part of monthly free DLC. Sony also has a history of releasing paid DLC which are then included in special editions. Be they Spec B, Director’s Cut or whatever.

This is all speculation and we have no idea if Pikes Peak is coming. It’s just an example of how paid DLC can be introduced without splitting the online playerbase.The Hamilton DLC was paid and I don’t think that was particularly compelling. If anything it was aimed at elite drivers given the difficulty levels.
 
It’s essentially a single-player piece of content.
Sure didn't stop Polyphony from offering a glorified set of time trials which were wholly single player content as DLC in GT Sport, with the reward being something that they could have easily been patched into the game in the first month of release (which they subsequently did in GT7)
 
There you go again. Where is your data to support this? Besides, even if it were true, does that make the non-mainstream players wrong? What happened to catering to everyone?
The critical & commercial success of GT7 is precisely because it appeals to mainstream players. Plus enthusiasts like myself and Martin Robinson of Eurogamer.

Enthusiasts who care about authenticity & details. Whether that be cars, tracks, tuning, weather etc. Not just checking off events & collecting everything. A time when quantity over quality became the mantra and historically significant cars never felt special.

 
The critical & commercial success of GT7 is precisely because it appeals to mainstream players. Plus enthusiasts like myself and Martin Robinson of Eurogamer.

Enthusiasts who care about authenticity & details. Whether that be cars, tracks, tuning, weather etc. Not just checking off events & collecting everything. A time when quantity over quality became the mantra and historically significant cars never felt special.

I asked specifically about cafe mode. You claimed it was bringing in more casual players. Where is your data to support this statement? Why are enthusiasts wrong to say it's awful?
 
I asked specifically about cafe mode. You claimed it was bringing in more casual players. Where is your data to support this statement? Why are enthusiasts wrong to say it's awful?
Sorry mate but you’re going to have to start backing up your claims with sources & evidence. Critical & player reception, retail performance, and Sony’s continued investment in the franchise, all point to PD making the correct decisions for GT7. It may not be for you, but that’s irrelevant to the bigger picture.

 
I just wish the people saying they're done with the game, the franchise, PD, the PS5.. etc. etc. would also be done with the section of GTP where people that aren't done with any of that stuff would like to congregate, without the hecklers flinging turds in socks at every discussion...

... maybe it's just me.

I already know this will get a load of poo emoji's, and people suggesting I'd be better off in some kind of echo chamber, but I don't think I'll ever understand the mentality of people that dedicate so much time to ******** on what other people like, when instead they could walk away and do something more positive with their lives.

Is this complaining about complaining, yes... I suppose it is, intolerance of intolerance at the end of the day.
While I can empathise that people who have few complaints aren't enjoying seeing the criticism those who do have complaints shouldn't be told not to come and voice those complaints, and they probably have thier own frustrations.

There is a definite middle ground, but there will also be people on either side of the coin who are frustrated by the "excessive criticism" or the "blind praise". There is ultimately nothing wrong with loving or hating the game, and both views are valid, it's how those views are presented that matters and people need to be able and willing to discuss the positives and negatives openly without being offended by someone else's view of the game.

I think the majority of people on here probably like enough about the game to play it but feel it could be better than it is, I may be wrong on that but the tone on the board leads me to that conclusion. That's certainly where I am/was, though I have to be honest I am getting a bit bored of it now and á couple of times I've thought about booting it up and then decided that I actualy can't be bothered with it. I've played about 35 mins this week, but to be fair I've only played 3 games this week for about 3-3.5hrs total so I'm not the best case when it comes to game time.

Anyway, get in your echo chamber you. I also have to careful that I don't come across as complaining about complaining about complaining :boggled:
 
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Sorry mate but you’re going to have to start backing up your claims with sources & evidence. Critical & player reception, retail performance, and Sony’s continued investment in the franchise, all point to PD making the correct decisions for GT7. It may not be for you, but that’s irrelevant to the bigger picture.


What claims? You're the one making claims, not me.

Do you expect me to watch an hour long video?
 
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