Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

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I have 2 theories as to why we still can't sell our cars:

1. There is a genuine issue wherein selling a car from your garage will remove it from your collection. PD haven't managed to find a solution that allows you to sell cars without reducing the number of cars in your collection.

2. PD intentionally withheld the feature to push microtransactions. They didn't want people to make a quick buck by selling cars like the previous games, so they decided to implement a "collection" feature to ensure that no-one could sell their cars. However this doesn't explain why you can't sell a duplicate that you bought intentionally.

Here's a fun fact for ya, they removed any mention of that being a feature on their main game page as well.

So I'd wager it's the latter.
 
Here's a fun fact for ya, they removed any mention of that being a feature on their main game page as well.

So I'd wager it's the latter.
But the word "sell" is still on PlayStation.com and PS Store, even when there's nothing for the player (cars or even parts obtained from tickets)* to sell. Talk about an attempt at avoiding a false advertising liability, since people are trying to dodge any false advertising allegations here about it despite complaining 24/7 about car selling.

*Parts you get from tickets (including engines) have an in-game MSRP except for ticket-exclusive parts, so there is an implication they are also items that can be sold. This also should alleviate any goalpost-moving attempts that the "sell" part of the game's blurb on PS website/Store only covers cars.
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EDIT: Selling was however never mentioned on that page of the GT website to begin with, not even in the post-release date trailer version.
 
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A Forza-style auction house would fit so well for an update that it's actually shocking it hasn't happened yet.

It would not only alleviate some of the FOMO problems concerning the used and legend cars, but also bring immense value to cars with engine swaps and special parts installed. I can easily imagine some people paying millions for such cars - especially those that missed out on the Great Bonanza.

I assume each car would have a set value that can't be set too high, but it would be a fantastic feature regardless. Let it be known that the 5000+ engines I stocked up would go to great use...
 
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A Forza-style auction house would fit so well for an update that it's actually shocking it hasn't happened yet.

It would not only alleviate some of the FOMO problems concerning the used and legend cars, but also bring immense value to cars with engine swaps and special parts installed. I can easily imagine some people paying millions for such cars - especially those that missed out on the Great Bonanza.

I assume each car would have a set value that can't be set too high, but it would be a fantastic feature regardless. Let it be known that the 5000+ engines I stocked up would go to great use...
very true. GT is a great game, looks fantastic and plays well.

But their decision making is weird, something common with Japanese devs, like Konami and the PES series.

For one, there should have been a way to buy the PD customized cars that show up in the Clubman Cup, in the UCD dealership. And your idea is great, imagine people making specific builds and selling them for their own set price? But sadly that could never happen knowing PD's decision making and work ethic. They just make their own game and that's that. I'm lucky to really like their games and especially their graphics so to me it's a cool game, but for some people their decisions may put them off the game
 
New layout(s) > Nothing > New track > Nothing > Repeat

If this turns out to be the pattern for the tracks in the updates, it'll be depressingly weak. Following this, we should get nothing this month, an actual new venue in October, and another one only in February 2023. That's insane, I hope I'm dead wrong. An acceptable scenario, at least for the first 12 months from release, would be a new track every 2 months. New layouts should be a bonus, you know, like when new Maggiore layouts came along with Monza in January 2018 for GT Sport.
 
It's like they purposefully trying to kill the game. Just add a dozen of menus and new races/challenges. Nordschleife still has only 3 races. Like are you for real? Just add more races. You come up with a great menu feature - use it for good sake! So many cars in the game with zero purpose. Omg I want to scream. Kaz hear me!
 
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It's like they purposefully trying to kill the game. Just add a dozen of menus and new races/challenges. Nordschleife still has only 3 races. Like are you for real? Just add more races. You come up with a great menu feature - use it for good sake! So many cars in the game with zero purpose. Omg I want to scream. Kaz hear me!
Well if you want to drive on Nordschleife that much , you can use custom races :P

but i do agree we miss alot of events , like speaking of Nordschleife where's the 24H race of that? probably it's on someones hard drive 🤔
 
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It's like they purposefully trying to kill the game. Just add a dozen of menus and new races/challenges. Nordschleife still has only 3 races. Like are you for real? Just add more races. You come up with a great menu feature - use it for good sake! So many cars in the game with zero purpose. Omg I want to scream. Kaz hear me!
We are still talking about a title that is 6 months old. With a likely DLC strategy for the next 2-3 years.

Logically you’d expect something more notable around the Christmas period to capitalise on new players. While satisfying early adopters. Then you have other possible key dates like the release of the movie, PSVR2, GT7 2.0 etc.

Of course, logic may not come into any of this! On the face of it adding extra events should be one of the easier things to do. I just think you can only judge the success of any strategy once it’s clear PD’s full focus is on GT8.
 
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We are still talking about a title that is 6 months old. With a likely DLC strategy for the next 2-3 years.

Logically you’d expect something more notable around the Christmas period to capitalise on new players. While satisfying early adopters. Then you have other possible key dates like the release of the movie, PSVR2, GT7 2.0 etc.

Of course, logic may not come into any of this! On the face of it adding extra events should be one of the easier things to do. I just think you can only judge the success of any strategy once it’s clear PD’s full focus is on GT8.
So it's only valid to criticise the lack of content once the game has ceased being supported? Er, no.
 
It's like they purposefully trying to kill the game. Just add a dozen of menus and new races/challenges. Nordschleife still has only 3 races. Like are you for real? Just add more races. You come up with a great menu feature - use it for good sake! So many cars in the game with zero purpose. Omg I want to scream. Kaz hear me!
don't forget that Sport Mode - arguably the place where the highest-playing users participate - is a much worse experience than GTS at 4 years old. i understand that the % of users who race in sport mode is small, but its daily users who would happily log 4+ hours of racing a day and they're a total afterthought. i maintain, though, if they had put the slightest effort into making the PP/tuning work, Sport Mode/lobbies would be stacked 24/7. but they're not, even in the freebie Race A you will often not find 11 other drivers on PS5 to race against. that 'unranked' trial ended up lasting several months and removing the option for a ranked non-racecar competition... which, again, there were people who did those all day every day for years on GTS. i won't even get started on the penalty system.

while the physics in GT7 feel better than GTS, they aren't calibrated to BOP - and they certainly don't bother testing the cars against each other to see if the BOP even makes sense. until two weeks ago, testing MR Gr3 cars was a joke... many couldn't take a curved incline even at TCS 4. even in the 'low/mid/hi bop', there are 2 Gr4 cars that are clearly faster than the rest.

the whole thing is mailed in, and while i think they will very slowly flesh out Single Player... i suspect they are going to try and do some Sport-mode game again (maybe crossgen, to fill the races). the difference, i imagine, is that people like me will not pay more than 20-30 bucks for them to add on a mode thats already in the game.
 
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This still works, to this day. And nowadays it's even an official layout in the game!
The first sector of the Daytona Road Circuit Experience used to have an even more daft shortcut. Instead of turning left towards the infield you just went straight and followed the oval layout, which somehow made the game think you crossed the finish line. It's already been patched out but for some reason PD never bothered to reset the ranking board.

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It's like they purposefully trying to kill the game. Just add a dozen of menus and new races/challenges. Nordschleife still has only 3 races. Like are you for real? Just add more races. You come up with a great menu feature - use it for good sake! So many cars in the game with zero purpose. Omg I want to scream. Kaz hear me!
This game is dead, 6 months are enough to add events. No communication, no interview and between each update absolutely nothing.
 
Every now and then I come back to this thread to check for potential discoveries and news. It's frankly sad to see the amount of peasantry. If a game is so bad then why do we keep playing it? Making money is easy enough and now with the ability for custom grids we can make whatever events we want.

There's of course many things that 'could' be added or improved upon that would be nice, the game is far from pure perfection of course. But going as far as calling a game "dead" is massively exaggerating, thinking that maybe Polyphony will suddenly release GT7 2.0 that they've had in storage 10 years in advance if we complain enough.

Just enjoy what we have at the moment, and future additions will be like a bonus. As cliché as it is to say, it's just a game at the end of the day.
 
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Didn't one of the mclarens have this problem in GTSport?
Hmm, I don't remember. The MP4-12C and 650S engines are tucked away pretty well, even though they have engine bay windows, I'll have to have a look (in GT7, GTS is uninstalled).

I know the McLaren F1 had an unusual offset interior rear view because of its backbone, so that engine's even less visible. I can't check that one in GT7 for... a long time, I'd rather get the the classic Merc and 8C first, maybe in 18 months.

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Every now and then I come back to this thread to check for potential discoveries and news. It's frankly sad to see the amount of peasantry. If a game is so bad then why do we keep playing it? Making money is easy enough and now with the ability for custom grids we can make whatever events we want.
I keep playing to do time trials with all of the cars, and while the money-making is easy enough, and the custom races are a neat feature, the two are sadly separate. I need to grind four specific events to afford to set up any of thousands of custom events I could make, that pay something like one sixteenth as much at best? Any additions to the variety of the grind would be welcome, or if custom races (and Sport mode) paid just 600k per hour (ideally double) it'd be a massive improvement to balance.
 
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Which is fine to say if you're fundamentally happy with what you received in the game at release. For people who don't feel like that, you're basically telling people to stop feeling their emotions.
I guess my point with that whole post is; who of us can make improvements to the game purely by venting our frustrations. Is it logical to get upset when it doesn't achieve anything productive? Not really. Though emotions are rarely ever logical to begin with, so I can understand why it happens.
 
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I guess my point with that whole post is; who of us can make improvements to the game purely by venting our frustrations. Is it logical to get upset when it doesn't achieve anything productive? Not really. Though emotions are rarely ever logical to begin with, so I can understand why it happens.
 
I guess my point with that whole post is; who of us can make improvements to the game purely by venting our frustrations.
Do you actually think that no developers listen to customer feedback? As @Techlet has pointed out, there's clear evidence of Polyphony listening to the community on this very game. The response to the major community backlash was the most communication we've had from Polyphony for years, as well as probably the most significant changes to the structure of the game.

So the answer to your question is we can ALL make improvements to the game by letting Polyphony know what is and isn't working. Or was that not quite what you had in mind?
Is it logical to get upset when it doesn't achieve anything productive? Not really. Though emotions are rarely ever logical to begin with, so I can understand why it happens.
So you understand that emotions aren't logical, yet you're still going with people should just enjoy the game? It's not necessarily about being productive, it's about people having feelings and wanting to talk about them. Which is human and completely reasonable.

If you want to talk about things that don't achieve anything productive, let's talk about telling people to enjoy something that they clearly don't. That seems productive. How about you stick to your own "logic" before putting your oar in to tell other people how they should feel.
 
Every now and then I come back to this thread to check for potential discoveries and news. It's frankly sad to see the amount of peasantry. If a game is so bad then why do we keep playing it? Making money is easy enough and now with the ability for custom grids we can make whatever events we want.

There's of course many things that 'could' be added or improved upon that would be nice, the game is far from pure perfection of course. But going as far as calling a game "dead" is massively exaggerating, thinking that maybe Polyphony will suddenly release GT7 2.0 that they've had in storage 10 years in advance if we complain enough.

Just enjoy what we have at the moment, and future additions will be like a bonus. As cliché as it is to say, it's just a game at the end of the day.
Finally wise words. Thank You. I enjoy GT7 too.:cheers:
 
If you want to vent frustrations then fair enough, who am I to stop anyone. As shown, it has accomplished something before, so hopefully it will work again.
I'll probably not check back here for latest news as often, as these kind of debates I constantly see are messing with my head. I admit that's my own fault. It's the internet after all.
 
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It happens,Forza has a scuffed Silvia model that kept being used for more than one game(don't know if they fixed it for Horizon 5).
I just accept it as something that will eventually happen in a game with 400 plus cars
 
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So it's only valid to criticise the lack of content once the game has ceased being supported? Er, no.
If we’re discussing future support & DLC. That can only be done once we’re aware of PD’s plans. Paid DLC arrived 2 years after GT Sport’s launch. We have a different dynamic with GT7 given it’s the start of the PS5 lifecycle, with different milestones to come, ie the movie, VR etc.

Existing content and its value is a personal matter. TLOU just released for the third time at full price. Complete with its 15hr campaign. I’m heading towards 150hrs in GT7.
 
It happens,Forza has a scuffed Silvia model that kept being used for more than one game(don't know if they fixed it for Horizon 5).
I just accept it as something that will eventually happen in a game with 400 plus cars
It's been used since Forza Motorsport 1, released in 2005. They've let a few inaccurate models from that game linger for far too long.
 
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