- 614
- Brazil
- skyhightrees
Brother man, you came up frustrated and used huperbole. He's just trying to correct you, in that the game actually supports a good tune for the 500SS, not that deep. He just pointed it out
Gran Turismo 7 Physics
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FerrariF40
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- Australia
I like the new physics, its more challenging and more fun.
FFB feels a little more detailed now.
But when a car takes a hit, its spinning out to fast.
FFB feels a little more detailed now.
But when a car takes a hit, its spinning out to fast.
- 56
- Edmonton
- dimedancing
My totally unscientific subjective experience is that the game feels better now than it ever has. The G923 FFB has been generally good from the beginning, but the update where they broke the steering ratio and then the one immediately after, where they fixed it, felt weird and vague to me.
The latest update I’m finding more communicative in terms of grip loss and recovery, like it’s snappier and more direct. There was no mention of FFB changes, so maybe that’s just a side effect of the physics changes, but either way, I’m happy.
The latest update I’m finding more communicative in terms of grip loss and recovery, like it’s snappier and more direct. There was no mention of FFB changes, so maybe that’s just a side effect of the physics changes, but either way, I’m happy.
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- bristol
- smokebeer
- FOGSmokebeer
What is with the crazy vibration when you are pushing in the turn's ? i am already on very thin ice with my landlord and he's complained about the rattling "when you're playing your games"
2/1 in settings on a t300 i even opened it up and tightened every screw 🤷♂️
2/1 in settings on a t300 i even opened it up and tightened every screw 🤷♂️
What is with the crazy vibration when you are pushing in the turn's ? i am already on very thin ice with my landlord and he's complained about the rattling "when you're playing your games"
Ffb on t300 sucks.. i had a g923 before t300 and ffb on this game was better. Plus on t300 there is a countersteer assist even if you turn it off in menù... Shame cause t300 is a lot better wheel, but how It is supported by gt7 Is awful.
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I have to disagree here, my experiences with the T300rs on GT7 has been a very positive one. The latest update really bringing the driving feel and driving experience alive. The best it's been overall so far imo.
My T300 settings:
Latest drivers, and max sliders on the steering settings configured using the pc thrustmaster setup software.
GT7 in-game: FFBStrength5, FFBSensitivity2, Controller sensitivity1(for cockpit view works best for me) giving the most authentic feel for all cars Incl. non power steering cars, good feel and detail mid corner, ability to balance the car with slight counter steer during hard braking, easy to modulate car slip angle when over steering..
I mainly use road cars on CS tyres, some cars with SH, with no TC and other assists. ABS weak. Cockpit view 99prcnt of the time.
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- bristol
- smokebeer
- FOGSmokebeer
- 212
- Belgium
what you are describing Is what i felt on G27 and gt6 and g923 on gt7.
What i feel in t300 Is lot more invasive..
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- Didcot, Oxfordshire
- danardif1
I would agree with you. I got round to driving some of the road cars in my garage the other night, namely the F430 and RX8 at Maggiore and then Laguna Seca, and had amazing fun with them. On the Sports tyres (hards on the Ferrari, soft on the Mazda) there's a nice amount of slip and the cars don't just break away unless you're doing something stupid with your right foot...
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- London, Ontario
- voodoovaj
I agree with you on the understeer. I got back into the game yesterday and the understeer (on controller) is unbelievable. I hate to use the controller as an excuse, but I seem to do just fine in GTS. When I jump to GT7, I have to come to what seems like a full stop just to turn the corner. I'm running at the back of the field on the RBR and if I try to up the pace at all, I run off track. I have to brake early and slow to a crawl just to avoid blowing the corners.
Not a fan
I think people that don't play online don't see these short comings, because the AI is so slow. In competition though, it's a glaring fault.
- 212
- Belgium
No understeering problem with a steering wheel, but apparently something has changed for controller players. Must have to do with the driving aids PD uses for controller.
When I went from controller to steering wheel (must have been GT3) I noticed that suddenly the front wheels turned as far as I steered. While on controller, they stopped turning at an angle where the grip started to loose. Could this 'aided' max angle be the reason for the excess understeer on controller? Don't know if there is a setting to get rid of this aid.
When I went from controller to steering wheel (must have been GT3) I noticed that suddenly the front wheels turned as far as I steered. While on controller, they stopped turning at an angle where the grip started to loose. Could this 'aided' max angle be the reason for the excess understeer on controller? Don't know if there is a setting to get rid of this aid.
- 130
- United States
I've been taking gaps between Gran Turismo 7 play time and I can feel large differences between the physics before and now.
To me, it feels as if Polyphony is trying to do redneck engineering to fix the physics problems, instead of actually making the physics correct. Basically, instead of the overhaul it needs. They just keep adjusting the values they have so it won't be AS bad.
Like before, there is no slip angle. You grip like sandpaper on a baby's face or you're oversteering and you need to countersteer lest you crash.
What Polyphony has done, is just made that boundary less and less violent over time. To me, A good physics engine gives me visual cues when I am close to my limit even without FFB. Multiple sims do this very well. Even sims from the early 2000s and late 90s Illustrate this MUCH better than GT7.
To me, it feels as if Polyphony is trying to do redneck engineering to fix the physics problems, instead of actually making the physics correct. Basically, instead of the overhaul it needs. They just keep adjusting the values they have so it won't be AS bad.
Like before, there is no slip angle. You grip like sandpaper on a baby's face or you're oversteering and you need to countersteer lest you crash.
What Polyphony has done, is just made that boundary less and less violent over time. To me, A good physics engine gives me visual cues when I am close to my limit even without FFB. Multiple sims do this very well. Even sims from the early 2000s and late 90s Illustrate this MUCH better than GT7.
- 3,987
- Netherlands
It seems that some rwd and mr cars have way more understeer. The F8 still handles perfectly, but the new supra road car has more understeer. The carrera gt way more understeer as well. And the dodge viper in the laguna seca CE had loads of understeer. Maybe it’s better for the competition in the sport mode, but less enjoyable to me. They erased the character of those cars.
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- Belgium
- 3,987
- Netherlands
Thrustmaster t300
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- Belgium
- 3,987
- Netherlands
The laguna seca circuit experience one, gt3 I think.
The supra still has some oversteer, but less than before.
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- 3,816
- London, Ontario
- voodoovaj
Braking balance needs to be added to the cars. It's unavailable in Sport Mode.
Also this -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_braking
My sensitivity is set to 10.
Have a look at the steering dot when turning. That shows the actual amount of input that the car is getting versus what you are giving it. I can have the controller at full input, but the car doesn't care. The game is over filtering my input, and since I can do nothing more to increase my steering angle, the game is forcing me to drive slower.
This isn't fun. What's the point? I can handle being at the back of the pack because of my own mistakes or inability, but if the game is handicapping me and filtering my input, then I'm just fighting the game.
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