Gran Turismo 7 Update 1.07 Now Available: Tire and Progression Bugs Addressed

[GTboyz]

Yeah, I think that's the point. There's a user sending me a lot of hate mail about the review, so I suspect that's him trying to slander my name publicly. Truly crazy stuff.

he is sending hate mail because of your review ? why?

 

[JoaoSilva]

 

[HarVee]

Yeah, I think that's the point. There's a user sending me a lot of hate mail about the review, so I suspect that's him trying to slander my name publicly. Truly crazy stuff.

That's just crazy indeed. I found your review to be helpful and fair if I may be honest. Even if my feelings toward the game are in shambles right now.

 

[boostdmarkii]

Unfortunately I don't remember the steps, sorry.

i know time trials you can use your garage by going into setting at the pre race menu the cars are very stock though it does seem some still have there power adders just no exterior stuff at all

 

[JoaoSilva]

Almost 2PM in Japan and still not a peep from Polyphony, no justification, no nothing.

 

[soc123_au]

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4.9 and still dropping. Good one, Polyphony.

Cyberpunk was bragging about how low it could get on metacritic. GT7 " hold my beer..."

 

[XSRacing111]

Almost 2PM in Japan and still not a peep from Polyphony, no justification, no nothing.

Wasting away in the northeastern seaboard of the good ol’ US of A. With GT7 down I thought today would be a good day to go outside and enjoy the nice weather, but I didn’t have any. Just cold and rainy. So I sat indoors, loaded up my weather app and stared at the forecast for Key West. 😢

 

[Yard_Sale]

Technically that’s revenue… profit is revenue (total $ they make) minus expenditures (cost of making the game, discs, employee salaries and benefits, licenses [and that 💩s expensive as it is])
You’d be surprised how expensive it is to make a racing game with licensed cars, music, and tracks (especially Suzuka). It’s easily in the hundreds of millions even for PD. And that’s no joke.

Yeah. Especially these days with the amount of coding that goes into any game. The amount of man hours that go into these titles is astronomical

I work for a major entity. We have a budget approaching a billion dollars. Guess what our biggest expense is by far?…. Like 90% probably. Salaries and Benefits.

I wish more people understood the economics of stuff like this. Which is mainly why I’m ok with MTX’s. Granted, not in the sleezy way Sony is going about it. But I get it.

My guess is something cataclysmic is going on over at PD. Something that will possibly costs them millions of dollars in revenue and lost “upfront-costs-recovery-revenue” if they don’t get this right, and thousands of angry gamers leave the franchise and let their PS plus memberships lapse (which surely PD gets a cut of). Something along the lines of entire game progress of thousands and thousands of players not being able to be recovered. That would be absolutely detrimental to this franchise. Especially in the beginning of a game that is very grind heavy to get to the good parts of the game.


…..or, they’re taking the “if we’re in for a dime, might as well be in for a dollar approach”. And they’re taking this opportunity to fix a lot of bugs and uploading 5 months worth of DLC right now to get back in everybody’s good graces.

Either scenario is pretty plausible to me

 

[JoaoSilva]

Wasting away in the northeastern seaboard of the good ol’ US of A. With GT7 down I thought today would be a good day to go outside and enjoy the nice weather, but I didn’t have any. Just cold and rainy. So I sat indoors, loaded up my weather app and stared at the forecast for Key West. 😢

My poor ol' Portugal is going through a dust storm right now so I'm not much better off. 😂

 

[HarVee]

…..or, they’re taking the “if we’re in for a dime, might as well be in for a dollar approach”. And they’re taking this opportunity of just fixing a lot of bugs and uploading 5 months worth of DLC right now to get back in everybody’s good graces.

Either scenario is pretty plausible to me

5 months of DLC is doubtful, but bug fixing is definitely possible, and I really hope that's the case. This game needs all the bug fixing it can get-so long as the core game stays stable that is...

 

[regnar]

I could imagine the first line in patch notes 1.08 tomorrow, -employee XXSD45447 Terminated for pushing the wrong button

 

[ShiftingGears]

Yamauchi is busy capturing this historic moment in GT history in high definition

 

[HarVee]

I could imagine the first line in patch notes 1.08 tomorrow, -employee XXSD45447 Terminated for pushing the wrong button

My family has a saying for people like that. We call them "Dave on tank 5" because my dad once knew a guy named Dave that worked in one of the factories he had worked in, and this Dave would occasionally fall asleep on the job leaving many products without proper quality control.

 

[RPR6143 RPG]

I don't think anybody is going to play today because of maintenance issues. It's probably going to be a couple of days though to a couple of weeks or even a month to finish maintaining.

 

[HarVee]

I don't think anybody is going to play today because of maintenance issues. It's probably going to be a couple of days though to a couple of weeks or even a month to finish maintaining.

Then they deserve all the backlash and negative PR they get if it takes that long.

The hopeful and optimistic part of me thinks it won't be any more longer than another day though.

 

[kembro]

Who thinks Sophy cracked the ***** and doesn't want to play.

 

[nebXden]

There's actually a workaround right now in the few arcade races where you can access your garage cars and tune them, so they're at least stored on the console.

That makes sense, then I'll expand on what I said before. The maintenance message mentioned that any changes to occur while the servers are down will be lost, so that what what you said tells me it's like a read-only reverse cloud save.

Traditionally when you play a game it'll save the data locally and then send the saved data to the cloud so it's backed up. That traditional system checks which one between your console save or the cloud save is most recent and will overwrite the outdated one.
My guess is that what you have locally will always be overwritten by what's stored on the server regardless if your local save has more recent changes.

I could test this pretty easily by yanking the internet in the middle of a World race and finishing the race and closing the game, then plugging the internet back in and reloading the game and seeing if I still have the credits from winning the race or if it's the amount I had beforehand

 

[Yard_Sale]

5 months of DLC is doubtful, but bug fixing is definitely possible, and I really hope that's the case. This game needs all the bug fixing it can get-so long as the core game stays stable that is...

I wouldn’t be surprised if the head nerds, and head bean counters over at PD have a line drawn in the sand,, time-wise. And if the line was to be crossed for an immediate fix, they would just “recalibrate” and knock out 3-5 scheduled patches in one fell swoop. It’s much more palatable to have people pissed off for 36 hours, than to have them pissed off for 3 more weeks because there was still patches needed

 

[XSRacing111]

Yeah. Especially these days with the amount of coding that goes into any game. The amount of man hours that go into these titles is astronomical

I work for a major entity. We have a budget approaching a billion dollars. Guess what our biggest expense is by far?…. Like 90% probably. Salaries and Benefits.

I wish more people understood the economics of stuff like this. Which is mainly why I’m ok with MTX’s. Granted, not in the sleezy way Sony is going about it. But I get it.

My guess is something cataclysmic is going on over at PD. Something that will possibly costs them millions of dollars in revenue and lost “upfront-costs-recovery-revenue” if they don’t get this right, and thousands of angry gamers leave the franchise and let their PS plus memberships lapse (which surely PD gets a cut of). Something along the lines of entire game progress of thousands and thousands of players not being able to be recovered. That would be absolutely detrimental to this franchise. Especially in the beginning of a game that is very grind heavy to get to the good parts of the game.


…..or, they’re taking the “if we’re in for a dime, might as well be in for a dollar approach”. And they’re taking this opportunity to fix a lot of bugs and uploading 5 months worth of DLC right now to get back in everybody’s good graces.

Either scenario is pretty plausible to me

Salaries and benefits. I work at a casino. I understand completely. Everyone thinks we’re Scrooge McDuck but we really don’t make that much money.
Most of it is tied up in jackpots and we also double as a bank so we need a lot of cash on hand for people to come in to do financial transactions. We employee about 2500 people with the average salary from the CEO down to the janitor is about $80-90 thousand a year. That doesn’t include benefits for full time employees.
And people wonder about inflation…
Best way to beat it and make things cost more reasonable while gaining value is for everyone (and I mean everyone) to take a massive pay cut. Everything is horribly overvalued. Maybe that’s what Sony is trying to teach us. 🤔

 

[4679]

Maybe the higher-ups PD are in a civil war: Half want to buff the credits back to at least where they were before, and maybe more, while the other half want to keep it as they are now to force more MTX. As they cannot decide, they have shut the servers down for the time being and blamed the poor mosquito that landed on top of the server.

 

[AutumnalGlow]

I could test this pretty easily by yanking the internet in the middle of a World race and finishing the race and closing the game, then plugging the internet back in and reloading the game and seeing if I still have the credits from winning the race or if it's the amount I had beforehand

I'm pretty sure people have already "tested" this (though unintentionally) and you do lose your progress.

 

[XSRacing111]

My poor ol' Portugal is going through a dust storm right now so I'm not much better off. 😂

Staring at the Key West forecast. 81 degrees F (27.2C) and sunny. All. Year. Round.
I started thinking, maybe global warming isn’t a bad thing.

 

[Rotax2020]

Yeah, I think that's the point. There's a user sending me a lot of hate mail about the review, so I suspect that's him trying to slander my name publicly. Truly crazy stuff.

Hi, if you think thats me: No i am not.

 

[kilesa4568]

Seeing the cuts to an already low race economy is probably the lowest I've seen a developer go. It actually feels insulting they think I'd fall for it and feed their microtransaction greed.

I hope it turns into a public relations disaster for them. They deserve it for thinking I'm a mug.

 

[TeamCZRRacing]

Hi, if you think thats me: No i am not.

Why would anyone think it's you?

 

[Firestone]

I am one of “the people“ who enjoy driving and physics, tuning and online competitive play… and I do care about acquiring, and trying out different cars. And would love to have cars overflowing in my garage without a lengthy grind. Because I’ve paid for an experience... to drive, race and collect different cars like a normal auto enthusiast. Not a tedious grind.

I think at this point you should put up a disclaimer that you “speak for yourself” and just walk away from the thread. No offense, but I’ve noticed a few of you guys seem to sprinkle into this thread with very tone deaf, generalized, boarderline trollish talking points.

On the flip side… 90% of this thread doesn’t agree with your position on this game, and are very aware that this is a shameless cash grab from Sony/PD. This thread alone should tell you that something isn’t right with what Sony and PD are doing here.

If you can’t see this, that’s ok. And if you like the grind, that’s your prerogative. But don’t make it as if everyone else is the problem. You are the minority.

There are quite a few that share my sentiment. If you look at the people the come from AC and other more hard core games, their main concern is the driving aspect. The player base that are are hard core into sport mode will remain and the majority that will collect cars will be done with the game after 2-3 weeks. People threatening to sell or sold the game are not the long term players. There is a lot of depth in every other aspect of the game. People who complain are usually the loudest of the bunch vs people that will just enjoy the game. At the end of the day, the game is ultra expensive to make and compared to other sims, it offers a lot.

 

[Yard_Sale]

Salaries and benefits. I work at a casino. I understand completely. Everyone thinks we’re Scrooge McDuck but we really don’t make that much money.
Most of it is tied up in jackpots and we also double as a bank so we need a lot of cash on hand for people to come in to do financial transactions. We employee about 2500 people with the average salary from the CEO down to the janitor is about $80-90 thousand a year. That doesn’t include benefits for full time employees.
And people wonder about inflation…
Best way to beat it and make things cost more reasonable while gaining value is for everyone (and I mean everyone) to take a massive pay cut. Everything is horribly overvalued. Maybe that’s what Sony is trying to teach us. 🤔

Hahaha!

“Quick!!….. show of hands. Who would like to volunteer for a 50% cut in pay and benefits??”





(My hand’s not raised)

 

[XSRacing111]

Seeing the cuts to an already low race economy is probably the lowest I've seen a developer go. It actually feels insulting they think I'd fall for it and feed their microtransaction greed.

I hope it turns into a public relations disaster for them. They deserve it for thinking I'm a mug.

Considering the metacritic scores and reviews alone, it’s already well beyond a PR disaster.

 

[XSRacing111]

Hahaha!

“Quick!!….. show of hands. Who would like to volunteer for a 50% cut in pay and benefits??”





(My hand’s not raised)

Well then we’re going to continue paying $150 for a video game that should theoretically only cost $30.
But what do I know, considering the game of life is how many commas and zeroes we have on our portfolios before we die.
Besides, I work part time I don’t get benefits. 😂

 

[HarVee]

Besides, I work part time I don’t get benefits. 😂

Same here. It's a real pain to afford nice things when you are only able to work part-time. So you have to spend your money more wisely. MTXs are not something I consider to be a wise investment, at least not in their current implementation. Maybe if it was like GT Sport where I could buy a moderately expensive car for a reasonably low price I'd consider giving PD a bone every now and then.