Gran Turismo 7 Update 1.44 Now Available, Adds Toyota GT-One, Lamborghini Urus, Audi R8

[zztmktn]

I'm very surprised by the livery of GT-One.
Not only Esso logo did not get replaced by Exxon but Marlboro design is not censored!

 

[juanffy18]

In the spanish Gran Turismo page they say the same too, 4 new cars

https://www.gran-turismo.com/es/news/00_4025764.html

 

[Ohayo]

So 3 events seem to be the new standard. Instead of usual 5, we get 3 + some special events that will vanish after a week. That's just brilliant 🙄

 

[wagnerFAM98]

What if this mysterious fourth car has something to do with a version of an existing car by bareen? The same thing happened for the Dior Mangusta.

 

[TumeK5]

What if this mysterious fourth car has something to do with a version of an existing car by bareen? The same thing happened for the Dior Mangusta.

It still shouldn't count as its own car, as Dior's doesn't.

 

[Draugnimir]

I wonder what the staff that used to make tracks at PD are doing these days. Maybe no new tracks, but there's always that small hope they fix other areas of the game, such as payouts.

Perhaps they're involved in Scapes and that's part of the reason why we're getting so few new tracks?

...I hope I'm wrong 😅

 

[Griff0]

Woohoo GT-One

Very nice update, actually I like all of the cars.
I didn't expect a new track but I was kinda hoping for new Missions or at least a new Menue Book.
There's still a lot of classic events missing. We have 'Race of the Turbo Sports Cars', but where's the 'NA Challenge' for naturally aspirated cars? Would have been a perfect fit for the Audi R8 NA V10, but oh well...

I'm really happy about the GT-One though. An absolute beauty, might just be my favourite from André de Cortanze
Can't wait to take it around Le Mans tomorrow

I'm also ok and actually happy about it being Gr. 2
Although it's the '99 LMGTP version with modifications, it's still essentially a GT1 car, that what it was designed for
And performance wise it probably fits right in there along with CLK LM

 

[br1x]

The CLK-LM started on pole at 1998 le mans, it was faster than the gt-one in quali, the GT-ONE had a better race pace, these two cars are pretty balanced, like every GT1 as they all are in the same class IRL, the 1999 and the 1998 gt-one are basically the same.

1998. The GT-ONE was slower that year.

But regardless, I don't see why it wouldn't be added in Gr.2.

I already wrote something about that in this thread, but I will again: Toyota did their qualifying runs on day 1 of practice and focused fully on race setup for day 2 while everyone else did qualifying runs on day 2 as well, which led to improvements between 1.5 and 4 seconds in some cases. The GT-One was not beaten by any car it race against on pure pace.

Also this is the 1999 car which was heavily improved and about 6 seconds faster a lap at Le Mans, which is a massive improvement for a simple evolution of a car.

IRL this car is miles away from the CLK LM, which itself is miles away from the McLaren F1 GTR which would obviously bring an even bigger imbalance to Gr.2 than there is already.

 

[RobertHammer]

that GT-one looks amazing 🔥

only weirdness is that its being Gr.2 for some reason 🤔

 

[juanffy18]

GT One LM804 - 1998 24 Hours of Le Mans #28, 1999 24 Hours of Le Mans #3, later on display in Japan.

 

[Normalaatsra]

What if this mysterious fourth car has something to do with a version of an existing car by bareen? The same thing happened for the Dior Mangusta.

It's speculated that the secret car is related to the recent anime collab.

 

[MoLiEG]

So, the GT1 is a GR2.

Well that was unexpected.

Still, it's a WIN update in my books.

 

[GBalao888]

I can imagine people being furious (myself included) if the GT-One is really in Gr. 2 instead of Gr. 1.

It's a car everyone wanted to see in the game, but it gets badly butchered.

 

[Niko-H]

Remember that the "Gr." system is, and always will be (at least within GT7) a bit of a mess. A simple 1/2/3/4/B system will always look funny when it includes multiple eras of motorsports history.
That's why we have a 2002 Silvia and 1993 Alfa Romeo in Gr.4, 1990s GT500s and 1980s super silhouette in Gr.3, and Group C monsters in Gr.1.

There will always be some artistic license involved in fitting cars into the "closest group." Perhaps GT8 will bring a more robust class structure that reflects the differences between LMGTP and GT1 or between a modern GT4 and a 1990s DTM touring car.

As it stands, the GT-One feels closer to the CLK and F1 GTR than the 2010s hybrid LMPs and fantasy VGTs. I would argue differently if we had a few more LMGTPs in Gr.1. It's also easier to BoP a "slower Gr.1" in line with the other Gr.2s. As opposed to trying to BoP a "faster Gr.2" up to speed with other Gr.1s.


P.S. - The gran-turismo.com update has been corrected and only says "three new cars."

Gran Turismo 7 March Update: Three New Cars, Three New Race Events and Time-limited Decals! - Gran Turismo® 7 - gran-turismo.com

The following is a list of contents included with Update 1.44 for Gran Turismo 7 to be implemented o...

www.gran-turismo.com

 

[DS13_supergt]

I already wrote something about that in this thread, but I will again: Toyota did their qualifying runs on day 1 of practice and focused fully on race setup for day 2 while everyone else did qualifying runs on day 2 as well, which led to improvements between 1.5 and 4 seconds in some cases. The GT-One was not beaten by any car it race against on pure pace.

Also this is the 1999 car which was heavily improved and about 6 seconds faster a lap at Le Mans, which is a massive improvement for a simple evolution of a car.

IRL this car is miles away from the CLK LM, which itself is miles away from the McLaren F1 GTR which would obviously bring an even bigger imbalance to Gr.2 than there is already.

Yeah, but can it be comoared to a modern LMP1 in gr1? I dont think so, that's why i want to see ot on gr2, also because it's a realistic choice consoderimg the other cars in the category, btw it will be in gr2 if its available fo WTC900.

 

[Griff0]

I can imagine people being furious (myself included) if the GT-One is really in Gr. 2 instead of Gr. 1.

It's a car everyone wanted to see in the game, but it gets badly butchered.

OK, I have not considered this.
For races with BoP applied this could indeed cause an imbalance or meas the GT-One is being nerfed
I only play single player, so I personally don't care too much

 

[Mafio]

The Urus is going to be one of the those car I buy just to paint, put rims on it and just look at it. Matter of fact, Im going full Florida....chrome paint and BIG matching wheels.

 

[RobertHammer]

OK, I have not considered this.
For races with BoP applied this could indeed cause an imbalance or meas the GT-One is being nerfed
I only play single player, so I personally don't care too much

For the longest time Gr.2 category is dominated by CLK LM because it has a broken BoP , maybe adding the GT-one they might sort the BoP now better like they did with the Gr.3 recently and that will be big plus since poor Mclaren F1 GTR Long Tail is slow under BoP atm

 

[PMK]

Absence of a new track is dissapointing since we haven't had a proper one in 13 months but the addition of the GT One compensates it for me.
Still don't care for the Urus though, IMO unironically one of the worst cars of all time and i have many friends who agree with me on that. Just a redesigned Audi RSQ8/Cayenne but 10 times uglier. A standard go to car that you buy when you're either an influencer or you go to Dubai/Monaco every other weekend.

 

[BrunusCL82]

I already wrote something about that in this thread, but I will again: Toyota did their qualifying runs on day 1 of practice and focused fully on race setup for day 2 while everyone else did qualifying runs on day 2 as well, which led to improvements between 1.5 and 4 seconds in some cases. The GT-One was not beaten by any car it race against on pure pace.

Also this is the 1999 car which was heavily improved and about 6 seconds faster a lap at Le Mans, which is a massive improvement for a simple evolution of a car.

IRL this car is miles away from the CLK LM, which itself is miles away from the McLaren F1 GTR which would obviously bring an even bigger imbalance to Gr.2 than there is already.

In an ideal world, this could be resolved with PD's addition of the GT-One '98 too; as happened in Gran Turismo 2, where both versions existed. The '98 version would be allocated to Gr.2, and the '99 version to Gr.1. In terms of digitalization, it wouldn't be that difficult, because they are basically the same bodywork. But, as it is basically the same car, at least visually, PDI may have decided that it was not interesting to pay two licensing fees for the "same car".

I would say the reason PDI chose to place the TS020 '99 in Gr.2 is because culturally, in the world of the GT fanbase, the TS020 (Gt-One) is closely associated with rivals CLK LM '98, McLaren F1 GTR '97, Panoz Esperante GTR-1 and, mainly, Nissan R390 GT1 (not difficult to be added in the future).

 

[Bojador]

P.S. - The gran-turismo.com update has been corrected and only says "three new cars."

Gran Turismo 7 March Update: Three New Cars, Three New Race Events and Time-limited Decals! - Gran Turismo® 7 - gran-turismo.com

The following is a list of contents included with Update 1.44 for Gran Turismo 7 to be implemented o...

www.gran-turismo.com

The dream is dead. We better start discussing the next update

/s

 

[Indigo Mizumi]

I was hoping they'd do something like what Project CARS 2 did and have the '98 spec GT-One in Group 2 and the '99 spec GT-One in Group 1, but I'm fine with having it in just Group 2. This opens up the opportunity for a future reunion with the Nissan R390, a car that would definitely be in Group 2.

 

[br1x]

Yeah, but can it be comoared to a modern LMP1 in gr1? I dont think so, that's why i want to see ot on gr2, also because it's a realistic choice consoderimg the other cars in the category, btw it will be in gr2 if its available fo WTC900.

There are many cars in Gr.1 that can't be compared with modern LMPs but with BoP just adding like 200HP or something it is already very close to Group C cars.

 

[Draugnimir]

In an ideal world, this could be resolved with PD's addition of the GT-One '98 too; as happened in Gran Turismo 2

It also happened in Project CARS 2, so I think Polyphony Digital can do it too... especially considering that they were willing to put in the game '97 and '98 Honda Civic or '71 and '73 BMW 3.0 CSL as separate cars

 

[Fuzzi0n]

Where did you find that info?

There's a lot of interesting information in this article from DSC. I'd also suggest for anyone who thinks the '98 and '99 cars are 'basically the same' to read it too.

 

[RetroJohan]

I hope the GT-One isn't crazy expensive

 

[TumeK5]

I hope the GT-One isn't crazy expensive

It won't be. 8 million max, but I'd say 4-6 mil.

 

[juanffy18]

It won't be. 8 million max, but I'd say 4-6 mil.

The 1999 #1 Zent sponsor car is in a private collection, i guess the base price is taken from it. 4 - 6 million like Group C cars

 

[RACECAR]

I can imagine people being furious (myself included) if the GT-One is really in Gr. 2 instead of Gr. 1.

It's a car everyone wanted to see in the game, but it gets badly butchered.

As fast as that car was in 1999, that car would be destroyed by the monstrous torque of the Diesels, The sheer power of the Group C cars and the Hybrid systems of LMP1 and VGTs. Therefore, GR.2 is the ONLY good place for this car. Its the exact reason the CLK LM is in GR.2 as well as the Mclaren F1 GTR.

Edit: Oh look, a poop emoji. Does the facts hurt?

 

[Fruitcake]

Yes. Furthermore, I hope that the TS020 will be categorized in Gr.2, even to open up opportunities for other vehicles to be added to the category in the future (since it is a very needy group), such as the Audi R8C and the Mercedes CLR LM. Of course, the CLR became a joke, but, in terms of laptime, the car performed well compared to its competitors. The Bentley Speed 8 could also appear in Gr.2. All these cars are very similar, I would even say inspired by the GT-One.

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The current Le Mans Hypercars should look more like these beauties, now they still mostly look like LMP1 cars. The AM Valkyrie is a step in the right direction.