Gran Turismo 7 Update 1.44 Now Available, Adds Toyota GT-One, Lamborghini Urus, Audi R8

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Couple more days.
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SnakeOfBacon
According to the Suggestions forum here, the most demanded cars we don't yet have are still the McLaren P1, McLaren 12C GT3, Koenigsegg Agera S, BMW M1 and BMW (E36) M3. I feel like the front page hasn't changed much for 7 years, but quite a few of the suggestions have made it in.
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Peak activity of Suggestions forum occurred during the GT6 days (there were also accounts dedicated to suggesting new cars, often as early as soon a car gets revealed irl) and it declined in the GT Sport days.
 
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SnakeOfBacon
According to the Suggestions forum here, the most demanded cars we don't yet have are still the McLaren P1, McLaren 12C GT3, Koenigsegg Agera S, BMW M1 and BMW (E36) M3. I feel like the front page hasn't changed much for 7 years, but quite a few of the suggestions have made it in.
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I was talking more about older GT legend not completly new car.
 
LSFDRX
There's a lot of subjective information there that doesn't really have anything to do with anything other than your personal opinion.

Audi has just as much motorsport provenance as BMW, and the fact of the matter is that BMW is way more thoroughly represented in game than Audi is. What you feel about them doesn't really have anything to do with it.
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You made a claim that there was bias at play, I made an argument that it does not need be so. There's not an equal number of Suzukis and Porsches in the game, it's not hard to figure out why, and the same can apply between Audi and BMW (to a lesser degree).
 
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We have a winner!
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A racing car doesn't necessarily need to be winning to also be iconic. The Toyota TS020 was the most advanced GT1 car and in subsequent years, in one way or another, it influenced, sometimes heavily, the design of many LMGTPs that came after it. Let's think for example of the design of the Bentley Exp Speed 8, which in 2001 marked the return to Le Mans of the "Bentley Boys" (and of course, someone could point out to me that the designer of the Bentley was the same Andre De Cortanze who had signed the design of the Toyota TS020), or that of the Dome S102, a few years later.

It's not even a question of having a special connection with the Gran Turismo saga or not, and this is confirmed by the fact that many other racing games also have the Toyota TS020 in their car list. If we really want to talk about cars that have a special bond with Gran Turismo and only with it, then if anything we should talk about the Toyota-7 or the Toyota 88C-V.
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I know the car has featured in other games but it does have a pretty strong connection to Gran Turismo. It was one of the fastest cars you could buy in GT3 and used for the final licence test around Cote d'Azur, which is still considered to be one of the toughest in GT history. From a real life racing standpoint, it was no more influential than the R8R/R8C duo but because it was a major player in both the 1998 and 1999 Le Mans, other games put it in. Iconic? Hardly. You also have to remember that the Bentley Speed 8 was born out of the failed Audi R8C project, yet you don't hear people calling out for that do you? If you ask me, the Audi R8 is "iconic" because it raced for many years all over the world, finding great success with several different outfits. The Toyota never raced outside of Le Mans so it's influence was quite limited.

Edit: It did one other race - the 1999 Fuji 1000 and it couldn't even win that...
 
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StealthVel
Isn't the '98 manual unlike the '99?
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They're bkth sequential, the' 98 uses gear lever, the '99 uses paddles, the '99 also have a 10L small fuel tank and doesn't have abs or tcs along with a couple of aesthetical changes.

These are the differences i could find
 
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ScottPuss20
We have a winner!

I know the car has featured in other games but it does have a pretty strong connection to Gran Turismo. It was one of the fastest cars you could buy in GT3 and used for the final licence test around Cote d'Azur, which is still considered to be one of the toughest in GT history. From a real life racing standpoint, it was no more influential than the R8R/R8C duo but because it was a major player in both the 1998 and 1999 Le Mans, other games put it in. Iconic? Hardly. You also have to remember that the Bentley Speed 8 was born out of the failed Audi R8C project, yet you don't hear people calling out for that do you? If you ask me, the Audi R8 is "iconic" because it raced for many years all over the world, finding great success with several different outfits. The Toyota never raced outside of Le Mans so it's influence was quite limited.
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Well, it was an extremely fast car, its aerodynamic design influenced almost every LMP1 in the years to come, it never won due to reliability issues in 1998 and due to bad luck in 1999, but for sure it was an extremely fast car.

The Toyota TS020 “GT-One”

The Toyota TS020 “GT-One”
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Here is a nice article about it



The update is coming thursday btw
www.gran-turismo.com

gran-turismo.com

Gran Turismo Official Website
www.gran-turismo.com www.gran-turismo.com
 
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ScottPuss20
From a real life racing standpoint, it was no more influential than the R8R/R8C duo but because it was a major player in both the 1998 and 1999 Le Mans, other games put it in. Iconic? Hardly. You also have to remember that the Bentley Speed 8 was born out of the failed Audi R8C project, yet you don't hear people calling out for that do you? If you ask me, the Audi R8 is "iconic" because it raced for many years all over the world, finding great success with several different outfits. The Toyota never raced outside of Le Mans so it's influence was quite limited.

Edit: It did one other race - the 1999 Fuji 1000 and it couldn't even win that...
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I understand and respect your opinion. I believe we have expressed two different points of view, between which however it's possible to find a synthesis: while it cannot be denied that, from a purely technical point of view (which is what I had expressed, in my post), the TS020 was and is still iconic, because it was the most advanced GT1, so much so that it easily evolved into an LMGTP, from a purely competitive point of view (which is what you expressed), results in hand, it cannot be denied that was a failure.

Of course, it also had few opportunities to demonstrate its value, and perhaps who knows, if Toyota had insisted on this project, instead of attempting the adventure in F.1 (in which the GT-One still played a role: the V10 engine for the F.1 was tested on the chassis of a GT-One for the first tests), perhaps we would tell a different story. But since history is not made with "if" and "but", the truth is undoubtedly this: very advanced car, but not a winner.
 
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