Gran Turismo 7 Will Be More Like Classic GT Titles, Says Kazunori Yamauchi
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It's that time again, when I've had enough of Sport Mode. Even though PD tacked on the GT League content, they have all these years of experience, to have made it more indepth. ACC and PC games have that "GTness" in spades.
The past Gran Turismo Turbo Car events, Super Touring events, Station Wagon and Saloon events. PD have a history of cool events. 911 GT3, Lamborghini and Ferrari GT League races have potential. The AI programming is all wrong. We'll see if PD can blow other game sout the water with the non-Sport Mode events.
The past Gran Turismo Turbo Car events, Super Touring events, Station Wagon and Saloon events. PD have a history of cool events. 911 GT3, Lamborghini and Ferrari GT League races have potential. The AI programming is all wrong. We'll see if PD can blow other game sout the water with the non-Sport Mode events.
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What'd make it different for previous GT events to GT League ones? They too had the likes of Lamborghini and La Festa Italiano (Ferrari).
The station wagon and saloon events was seen in GT2, though unfortunately the game didn't register the proper car restriction for those iirc (they always did for drivetrain and lightweight events for example). Those kind of events require huge car count, and other than returning I'd want an evolution (the term fits yes even if GT2 and GT3, also a little in GT League did), also hope all variations of the cars needed are implemented; like you're able to race lower powered MR cars, mid powered MR cars and higher powered MR cars, and probably even not restrict the lineups like allowing both race cars, tuned cars, and supercars on higher powered MR one.
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Qualifying for one. PD wouldn't need a big roster of wagons either. They love doing the one car thing. We've had that V8 Supercar by itself through the franchise.
Taking players through various stages of racing, would be a welcome addition. As optional(enable/disable) Practice, Qualifying and race all in one Championship. And it wouldn't have to be only for custom race. Some players want a rapid fire five race series to get through and progress with the game. Others want the full gamut of a race weekend.
GTS is stop start with each race. As in, start a race, finish a race, with no automatic blend into the next event. Bringing back the transition of one race to the next, of any one series. That would help with game flow.
Moving to the different types of events, I think PD did East vs West or UK vs Japan vs USA. We'll see if PD don ring back the PP system. Might be a better way for them to handle grouping cars together. Because, if what we see in the GT7 trailer, with a 917K vs GR.3 cars, is what they've come up with, it's going to be more of the same from GT Sport.
TonyJZX
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Thing is GT Sport largely has the assets there, baring track count.
There's the 2008 JGTC cars they they didnt use, like at all.
There's the Gr.C cars again, that they didnt use.
They have everything there to deliver a top of the line classic Gran Turismo league experience, even multiclass but they didnt bother.
They certainly had the capabiltiy to delliver a 'generic' Nascar, V8 Supercar, US Indycar and German DTM and even FWD BTCC experience given they know how to come up with synthetic race cars like the Jaguar GT3 and the Mazda 6 GT3 and the F1500s but they didnt.
There's the 2008 JGTC cars they they didnt use, like at all.
There's the Gr.C cars again, that they didnt use.
They have everything there to deliver a top of the line classic Gran Turismo league experience, even multiclass but they didnt bother.
They certainly had the capabiltiy to delliver a 'generic' Nascar, V8 Supercar, US Indycar and German DTM and even FWD BTCC experience given they know how to come up with synthetic race cars like the Jaguar GT3 and the Mazda 6 GT3 and the F1500s but they didnt.
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Yeah, as I said multiple times just to remind (and speaking of East vs West or UK vs Japan vs USA), GT1 is a game that is all about Championships, and there's Practice (Test Run), Qualifying, and Race in every single one of them (GT2 iirc only had Practice, while GT3 had Qualifying that lasts for several laps, probably can double as practice, but it can be repeated). Of course those games allow you to skip Practice/Qualifying if you want.
Though as I said in my other reply to you, I suspect PD removes Qualifying (as well as rolling start) as an attempt to make the race harder due to their lackluster AI, instead of improving the AI.
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If it's at least a return to the AI difficulty of classic GT titles, we should be alright. Until 4, their pace was good! They were challenging to beat. 5, 6 and Sport? Very slow for the most part, very tough in karts and F1, but they can't handle road cars. They can modulate their throttle to maintain grip with robotic efficiency, just try and win a custom one make race at Northern Isle in a '70 Challenger... I don't know how they do it. Take them to Tokyo Expressway and they're scared of walls, multiple easy overtakes on every corner.
In my review of GT Sport I showed a 60s Mini race at Miyabi, despite the track width and easy car, I could overtake the whole field, stop, let them all pass me and overtake them all again in 10 minutes. On Professional difficulty. I'm a C class driver, not Kimi, and there's almost no challenge to be had on the highest difficulty. I can pop in GT2 now and have 10+ lap challenging battles in Arcade, hopefully we'll get the option to have AI with decent pace (not starting 200m apart) in GT7.
In my review of GT Sport I showed a 60s Mini race at Miyabi, despite the track width and easy car, I could overtake the whole field, stop, let them all pass me and overtake them all again in 10 minutes. On Professional difficulty. I'm a C class driver, not Kimi, and there's almost no challenge to be had on the highest difficulty. I can pop in GT2 now and have 10+ lap challenging battles in Arcade, hopefully we'll get the option to have AI with decent pace (not starting 200m apart) in GT7.
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In early GT games the AI were competitive due to rubber banding. The AI cars were given performance boosts when you went ahead and slowed down when you were behind. It worked well to keep 6 car grids close together, but it’s better to just program better AI. Especially for races with larger grid sizes.
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SestoScudo
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Im getting GT2 vibes 🥰
Citta da Aria and Costa Di Amalfi could be touge style events.
GT has got to a point where PD can do what they want and people will still buy the game, maybe not to the numbers of previous games but enough to make a profit. We don't know what the AI is like yet there are reports that the 25th anniversary edition has sold out in some countries.
I love the JDM cars too. Now we know that modifications are coming, an idea would be for PD to give us for example the base skyline R33. If we want to turn it into a GTR then add these parts. A V spec II, add these parts or remove this much weight. No need for them to create 5 different R33 versions (even though I would still buy them all).
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Done with the GT series for now. I agree with you, but not only in GTS but most of the GT games. They did not even come close to utilizing most of the vehicles to their full potential, meaning - easily dozens of more GT offline race events could be made.
I would suggest that they give ability to change settings on most event. Say ya want to run a short race (5 laps), medium (10 laps), or long (20 laps). With different pay-outs. Ability to turn on track limits and other penalties, have tire and fuel usage options, and damage. I know in general why they do not though, because the A.I. is terrible and has had no real significant improvement since GT1. Sounds are garbage.
Let people change the event settings similar to arcade user created races.
Some day maybe some game company could blend the GT/Forza style with say Project Cars.
That would be a great game.
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Would you say the campaign mode is like previous GT's like GT4/GT5. That's what usually keeps me busy you see?
I know you can't say much but would be nice to know how progress is going if that's okay? 😁 @TRL LIGHTNING
I know you can't say much but would be nice to know how progress is going if that's okay? 😁 @TRL LIGHTNING
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Having a look across all the ads for past games:
GT Sport”
very deceptive wording:
Strap in for a heart-racing single player mode which includes a series of classic cups and endurance races that have appeared in past GT titles. Do you have the skill to take pole position in fan favourites such as the Sunday Cup, Clubman Cup and FF Challenge?
Reads like qualifying returned in GT Sport.
This is interesting:
Changes from this video to the final product.
No pace car rolling starts. Only standing starts in Custom setting and some FIA races.
GT Sport”
very deceptive wording:
Strap in for a heart-racing single player mode which includes a series of classic cups and endurance races that have appeared in past GT titles. Do you have the skill to take pole position in fan favourites such as the Sunday Cup, Clubman Cup and FF Challenge?
Reads like qualifying returned in GT Sport.
This is interesting:
Toyota TS050 - Hybrid (Toyota Gazoo Racing)
Toyota’s direct rival to the Porsche 919, this Prototype car boasts a hybrid powertrain combined with a turbocharged 2.4 litre direct injection V6 with a Motor Generator Unit (MGU). The TS050’s settings for its inclusion in GT Sport were chosen by Kamui Kobayashi, the driver who set the new course record at the real life Le Mans, using this car.Changes from this video to the final product.
No pace car rolling starts. Only standing starts in Custom setting and some FIA races.
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I hope GT7 is like a classic Gran Turismo game in the sense that it’s for one console only, in this case the PS5.
If they want to make a simplified version for PS4, fine, but please no cross gen online.
GT7 will be around for years, PS5 sales will catch up eventually, we don’t want to be limited by the PS4 for the entirety of GT7’s lifespan.
If they want to make a simplified version for PS4, fine, but please no cross gen online.
GT7 will be around for years, PS5 sales will catch up eventually, we don’t want to be limited by the PS4 for the entirety of GT7’s lifespan.
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I can't believe after a dozen games between them neither GT or Forza have featured historic tracks like PC. And in terms of events, they're miles behind the Forza games now, FM7 had amazing options for custom races and even Horizon now let's you create your own events and hand pick which cars feature. Personally I think letting players create their own events is the future, Horizon let's you name and share them, that would be amazing in a game like GT.
Beside the weak AI, the last straw for me was GT6 showing a video of a historic race at Le Mans, which wasn't in the career or couldn't be created in the arcade mode. But I really think they must of learned their lesson this time!
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Correct me if I’m wrong but last time I played forza motorsport you couldn’t even view a list of private lobbies like you can in GTS. That’s where FM falls flat on it’s face imo, they got rid of that feature for 5 and it was arguably the dumbest decision they made so far.
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GTS has Custom Race in Arcade, but yeah, that can be evolved into full event creation like more settings like creating championship, saving the event setting and share it.
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