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Gran Turismo 7's Next Update is Coming This Week: Escudo Pikes Peak Returns
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There may be some sort of script or bot thing going in because a lot of liveries get liked by the same prolific livery creators with the same comments on all of them. It could be manual, though. No evidence to suggest otherwise.
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So when you play a GTA game, your method is to do only the main story missions. In the other words the least amount of effort needed to get the final mission and end credits? And you consider that 100% completion?
Well both in that game and GT, the stats screen would disagree. It would state you'd actually have something like 50% completion, because to complete a game you need to do everything the game has to offer you. Everything the devs invested time and money creating for you.
I can appreciate the want for more events, but if it's primarily for credits, you need to be getting gold in track experience, the payout for those is well worth it
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I was only responding to your claim that top lobbies don’t have dirty driving. Not sure why you went on about the other stuff, maybe you thought I was someone else but you seem so angry. I enjoy the game and it was very clean with the last penalty system and I hope they bring it back but you just don’t get this sort of behaviour in iracing, not in the streams I’ve watched anyway. And scenes like this was pretty much every race at last week’s daily B.
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False.
Literally the first post on the iRacing subreddit I didn't even need to look for an example, if it was me I'd be furious considering the cost just to play that game:
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That's a one time 46 mil reward. About 10% of the total credits needed to get one of every car in the game. God forbid if you wanted multiples.
And then you add on the cost of tuning.
If it's going to take 200 odd hours to grind out the rest of the credits, Sardegna/Tokyo/Le Mans/Spa is not enough. Sure there's the 8 endurance missions but they too are one and done, not to mention less efficient.
We need more events at the same level as the big 4 with more variety than just 600/700/800pp. Alternatively, if PD had made custom races worthwhile, we could have just done that ourselves.
The strange thing is that PD isn't averse to adding more events. They're just adding ones that aren't worth repeating. There's no logic behind why the new Gr.1 events pay out as little as they do when they're a step up in difficulty compared to any of the non-mission races. Why make the new 800pp event at the Glen so short and pay so little compared to Sardegna or Spa?
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Ok. So what is that you’re arguing? 😂
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On an entirely unrelated note, now's as good a time as any to learn how AutoHotKey works.
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God damn it. Please send this to PD or something they should wake up. It really is annoying that they can't add a lot of races per update just 2-3 and always totally generic.I’m just going to skip past the part where most online modes were mostly broken for the first 3 months and still have major fundamental issues.
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As Samus already said, you could have 100 events, you could have 10 events, you could have 1 event, completing them all will give you 100% completion, this is an asinine, useless, and moot point.
Once you’ve done them all, you’re left with repeating them (since custom races and online pay so poorly) to get any other content or further any other progress elsewhere. So when the event list is limited, it chokes what you can do with the cars and customization.
GT5 had 54 events in the main campaign A tree, most of which had multiple races within the card/championship. There’s also Special Events, licenses, and the B Spec campaign tree.
GT6 Event List
This is a list of main career events in Gran Turismo 6. The list does not include license tests or Seasonal Events. * = Cars with lower PP can be allowed for this event.gran-turismo.fandom.com
GT6 had 79 events in the main campaign, again majority having multiple races in each card/championship. It also had the Red Bull series, Special Events, licenses, and mission challenges.
GT League (GT Sport)
Claim victory through sheer finesse, or by perfectly tuning your car. Take on a variety of races using the cars you've obtained.In-game description (while selecting a league) GT League is a game mode that was added in the Campaign section of Gran Turismo Sport as part of update 1.10, released on...
GT Sport (eventually) had 46 events in League, containing 300+ individual races. This was on top of a fairly short v1.0 campaign containing a few other races, missions challenges, time trials, licenses, and circuit experience.
Gran Turismo 7 The Complete Event List in World Circuits
Here is the list of all the events and championships in GT7. I had created a wikia page for GT7 listing all of the events. Events Sunday Cup GT Cup Gr.3 (Not part of the menu book) Sunday Cup Classic GT Cup Gr.4 (Not part of the menu book) Japanese FF Challenge 450 European Sunday Cup 400...www.gtplanet.net
GT7 has 31 event cards and 10 championships, totaling 41. It also has licenses, mission challenges, and circuit experience just like in Sport.
Even 3.5 months post launch, 7 still has less events and races (by around 150) than Sport, despite just about everything else being a direct port or expansion from Sport. And worse yet, getting into the nitty gritty, 7’s event catalogue has significantly less diversity, to the point where several classes of cars don’t even have an event to represent them.
There’s more pickup truck events than there are Gr. 2 events, the latter of which has zero. There are only two (very unequal) pickup trucks in the game. There are two whole generations of Super GT cars and 90’s GT1 cars in Gr. 2.
Other classes/categories/cars not represented in the GT7 event list but were also in some if not all of the past several games:
- Gr. 2 (as mentioned)
- Historic (50s-70s) race cars
- 90’s JGTC
- F1500T
- Superformula/open wheel
- Redbull X cars
- Karts
- Group C
- Road-going Hypercars/track day cars (they literally designed an invitation system around them)
- MR cars
- Tuned cars
- Hybrids/EVs
Refer back to that GT7 event list link. There’s five different variants of the Sunday Cup in GT7. Sunday, Clubman, FR, and generic WTC*pp* cups make up more than half the entire catalogue. Any main racing category/group only has one or maybe two entries. Each category could have just as many regional variants. Less than half the major auto-producing nations have an event, Germany only having one. Brand or model-specific series. Decade-specific events.
Here’s a big list of things they could do, both from past games and transposing formats they’re already using in 7 on to other categories:
- British Cup (I.e. British lightweights)
- Italian Cup (I.e. Festa Italiano)
- French Cup (I.e. French Hatchbacks, Tous France)
- Schwartzwald A/B/C (multiple PP levels)
- 80s Championship (regional and international)
- 90s Championship (regional and international)
- Lamborghini Festival
- Huracan/Gallardo Super Trofeo
- V10 Championship
- V12 Championship
- Midship Challenge (lower PP, catering towards MR2/Clio V6/older supercars)
- Premium Midship Challenge (modern supercars)
- Saloon Championship (4-door road cars)
- Mini Challenge
- BMW M Cup
- Classic VW Festival (Beetle/Bus)
- Clio Cup
- Nissan Z Heritage
- Toyota 86 Championship
- Supra Challenge
- Miata Cup
- Rotary Cup
- Viper Revival
- Camaro Heritage Challenge
- Mustang Heritage Challenge
- Hybrid Eco Cup
- Modified Hybrid Eco Cup (for more depth)
- Austrian Trackday Experience (KTM one-make, 2 race championship on long and short RBR. Similar type of format to the very first championship at HSR)
- Willow Springs Clubsport Cup (low-mid PP, at least 2 club sport parts installed, championship across all the WS variants)
- Italian Lake Experience (Championship across multiple Lago Maggiore variants)
- Rain Masters
- Night Race Championship
- Earlybird Series (make use of dawn/sunrise ToD)
- Supercar Nostalgia (60s-70s road cars)
- Speedway Supercup
- Dream Car Championship (hypercars and track specials)
- Modified Compact Series (must have at least 3 “semi-racing” level parts installed)
- Modification Madness (must have widebody and at least 3 “racing” level parts installed)
- Tuned Kei Cup (for more depth)
- Regional Gr. 4 cup
- Regional Gr. 3 cup
- Regional Gr. 1 cup
- Drivetrain-specific (FF/FR/MR) Gr. 4 cups
- International Gr. 4 cup (slightly higher PP)
- International Gr. 3 cup (slightly higher PP)
- International Gr. 1 cup (slightly higher PP)
- Gr. 1 Sprint Series
- Gr. 1/2/3/4 Endurance Series
- Group C Legends
- Nostalgic 1959/69/79 (Specific decade/era race cars)
- Redbull Challenge (Junior and Competition)
- Historic Formula Series
- JGTC (90s)
- Superformula Championship
- Super GT Championship
I just came up with over 50 events, many of which I could reproduce as single custom races if I had the garage to fill the grids appropriately. If PD wanted they could even further extrapolate a lot of these regionally or with different PP levels like they already have been with the Sunday/Clubman/FR/WTC variants and give us even more to do.
There’s no reason it should be any smaller or less diverse than Sport was, certainly not with all the functionality they’ve added in 7, certainly you would agree with that?
Or just increase Custom Race payouts if PD is THAT lazy.
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Of course most people would do some of the side quests, but guaranteed if the main story was far too short in the next GTA, lots of people would complain. Take Elder Scrolls 6 for example, as much praise as that game gets, the considerably shortened guild quest lines caused a bit of a stir.
Besides, in GT7 all that extra side stuff is one time only, sure there is some fun to be had there, but if you intend to use it to buy all of the cars, the Circuit Experience will get you two 20m cars only, and that's if you're good enough to gold all of them which most people will not be. You can't use these one time things to get more credits, because if you haven't already done them (in which case you can't get any more from them) then you'll either not be interested, not be good enough or get a bit of a one time windfall to buy a few more cars with.
Don't forget, it's the Cafe Menu's that are the core part of the game, they are the "main story" which is frustratingly short and they aren't doing enough to rectify that with updates.
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Personally, I think the penalty system is mostly good now. As myself and many others have been saying since GTS, it's the SR system that needs to be overhauled.
That guy shouldn't be in your lobby. Period. After a display like that, he should be relegated to SR D and a DR reset and have to earn his way back up by proving he can be clean.
The other day, I did several Race C and did encounter a few people like that from time to time. But I didn't focus on it. If you ask me how my session was, I would say it was great because I remember the great racing I had with others. Sure, I lost some potential DR gains because of the dirtbags but I'm not a pro competing in GTWS so that doesn't matter to me.
I know that there is a slight difference in racing philosophies amongst people. Maybe it's an EU/NA thing but I absolutely despise penalties for slight rubbing. Overly sensitive pen system is ridiculous, in my opinion; especially in a video game.
SR S should mean that you are a consistently very clean, mistake free driver. I'll even admit that in my dream system, I probably wouldn't be S rated all the time like I am now.
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I’d absolutely be happy to keep the existing penalty system if idiots like this are punted down to SR D but I‘m not sure how an automated system would pass judgement to do it. Race C tends to be better behaved, that RaceB last week was something else though, worst I’d ever seen this or the previous game in any SR level. While we’re talking ranking adjustments I‘d also get rid of week long qualifying sessions and have one shot shootouts pre race and we’d have better and more varied racing. This would also mean I’d be a lower DR rank but it would be a better reflection of my pace, and everyone else’s/
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Exactly what my approach is on this game👍 I expected something with much more content, but I realized that the game I expected isn’t the game we have and probably won’t be in future (and this sucks in general). But still there is so many great things about this game, so why not play it in a way that makes you enjoy the game. What’s the point of still grinding and grinding to buy a car you then just complain about at the end?
I experienced that it’s much more enjoyable to play it a bit like in real life, se which cars are offered at the moment in the dealerships, maybe buy One of you like it and enjoy it with some races, customize it if you want, make some scapes… But not grind endlessly to collect every car available just for the sake of it.
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This would be interesting. And this idea, as well as the SR changes, have been bandied about for a long time. One can hope a future update will experiment with them. The great thing is, the people who would complain about either the most would be the dirty drivers who don't have the pace.
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Yep. The tryharders as @PirovacBoy likes to call them!
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And yet here you are, whining about it.Agreed. It has turned into a GT hate circle jerk group. I wish the haters would just uninstall and leave. They offer nothing of value, just whine whine whine like children
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When you arrived.
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When come new music rally events, seasonal events sell cars? i hope some point peak pikes Hill climb
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No one knows yet, I think new Music Rally events will come, PD have said they plan to add more. Same with seasonal events, but we don't really have any information on what they will be yet. As for Pikes Peak, PD have held the license for quite a long time now and not used it. It would be fantastic to have it appear at some time though.
Agreed. It has turned into a GT hate circle jerk group. I wish the haters would just uninstall and leave. They offer nothing of value, just whine whine whine like children
Christ, the irony. What have you added, except derailing the topic by attacking anyone daring to criticize the update, something they're perfectly entitled to do?
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Since the last update GTP has been the most positive it's been since launch. Quite a few people really like the update and are pleasantly surprised by Watkins Glen and the quality of life changes. There are of course the usual suspects who only have the ability to find negativity in anything and everything but that's par for the course around here these days sadly.
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Has it occurred to you that you might be finding the game brilliant because PD listened to some of the feedback shared on this forum?
The game has been improved in some areas based on feedback, but there’s still some way to go. You spamming this thread with 100% drama is not helping though.
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