Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion

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Another thing I forgot to bring up, I'm also happy to know that according to the trailer; the Northern Isle track will indeed have more than just the Oval layout. There's an infield course that will be used for gymkhana aswell. I also enjoy the new additions of rally cars including the Audi Sport Quattro Pikes Peak and Honda NSX. I hope for there to be a VW Beetle Rally Car to be shown at some point. I know that there's already the Vision GT Rally Car, but it would make so much sense to add a Beetle rally car.
 
Please quote where anyone said the game is "online only" on this forum. I don't see anyone saying they know exactly what the offline content is going to be, but I do see people talking about what we have known so far. Please quote where anyone says they know exactly what the offline content is going to be on launch day, I'd love to see it as well.

Looks like you didn't read the interview. Here is the exact answer to GTP's question about traditional, classic parts of the game.
Key words: Nothing has been dropped. Nothing = 0, meaning not a single classic feature is dropped. The Senna tribute, driving on the moon etc. are content not features. Content comes and goes and that is expected. Features are things like the Course Maker which has been in the last 2 iterations of the game and a huge and expansive offline career mode. These are now features that Kaz has now promised the fans. Massive car customization is also a classic feature of the game. It's a long list.

I don't see a problem holding Kaz accountable for that promise. Do you?
Kaz dun goofed again.

Kazunori Yamauchi On The Competition & How GT Sport Can Change The World

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu...on-and-how-gt-sport-can-change-the-world.aspx
Just in: GT to cure cancer and rid the world of poverty and hunger. Hopefully duck face selfies too.
Sounds more like 110% precision from across the globe - most folks could easily take away the meaning of my post.

Now can we get back to the real meat of the my post? I don't think the course maker is a classic GT feature. The question/answer was:

GTP: The competition aspect of Gran Turismo Sport is exciting, but many long-time fans of the series are worried about the more traditional, classic parts of the game. Can you reassure them that will still be part of GT Sport?
KY: Gran Turismo Sport is actually going to contain more features than any other game in the series to date. Nothing has been dropped, things have only been added. Whether it be the campaign mode, or the offline gameplay, or the open lobbies, everthing has been raised in quality and there is more of it, so there is nothing to worry about. Nothing has been dropped.

The closed beta is really just one snippet of the whole Gran Turismo Sport experience. It’s just one part of it, and it’s also the most stressful part of the experience, so it’s important that we have the support of the community to help test it out.

I don't think we should take that answer as a promise of a course maker. That's reaching a bit far IMO. When I think of classic GT I think of PS1 PS2 - the golden age of GT that is referred to a lot - when GT owned a majority of the market share.
The course make I'm sure 100% won't be I. GTS, however it was Kaz who said nothing will be dropped. He wants fans to hear that grab hold of it tightly, only to then pretend such a thing was never said when this doesn't materialize.
 
I love that the trailer addressed one of my biggest concerns about GT5/6; I don't care about the number of cars, I want all quality cars <3

I'm loving the DR/SR and how it's implemented in the Beta so far. Sure peeps can be jerks but the system looks to be fair and far improved from GT6.

Oh, and no sign of the dreaded SRF either *fist pump*


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Sounds more like 110% precision from across the globe - most folks could easily take away the meaning of my post.

Now can we get back to the real meat of the my post? I don't think the course maker is a classic GT feature. The question/answer was:

GTP: The competition aspect of Gran Turismo Sport is exciting, but many long-time fans of the series are worried about the more traditional, classic parts of the game. Can you reassure them that will still be part of GT Sport?
KY: Gran Turismo Sport is actually going to contain more features than any other game in the series to date. Nothing has been dropped, things have only been added. Whether it be the campaign mode, or the offline gameplay, or the open lobbies, everthing has been raised in quality and there is more of it, so there is nothing to worry about. Nothing has been dropped.

The closed beta is really just one snippet of the whole Gran Turismo Sport experience. It’s just one part of it, and it’s also the most stressful part of the experience, so it’s important that we have the support of the community to help test it out.

I don't think we should take that answer as a promise of a course maker. That's reaching a bit far IMO. When I think of classic GT I think of PS1 PS2 - the golden age of GT that is referred to a lot - when GT owned a majority of the market share.
I'd include features that were prominent in GT5 and GT6 as classic features but even going by the PS1/PS2 era, at a minimum we should see a full A-Spec career with dozens upon dozens of series and races. B-Spec would definitely be included in that as well. Huge levels of customization and upgrading would have to be in there. It's a lot to promise, I hope he can deliver.
 
Number of events up from 117 to 145
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Number of events up from 117 to 145
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It actually looks like they removed "Missions" from the ones that seemed they'd have the most actual races in them and added to the ones that teach you the basics. That is honestly not looking like an improvement. I wonder what each group consists of now.
 
It actually looks like they removed "Missions" from the ones that seemed they'd have the most actual races in them and added to the ones that teach you the basics. That is honestly not looking like an improvement. I wonder what each group consists of now.

They've also more than doubled the race events which I'm assuming are the most substantial.

Wonder if the Gymkhana events are restricted to these challenges only.
 
The also more than doubled the race events which I'm assuming are the most substantial.

Wonder if the Gymkhana events are restricted to these challenges only.
Whoops, overlooked that. Hopefully they actually changed the contents to actual races, because what they where showing before was a bit disappointing.

The good news is that it's changing. Hopefully its not two step forwards and one back, though.
 
That MI? icon is driving me nuts. Marketplace?

IMO, Too busy. The one in the beta was perfect.

Same. I don't like the organization at all.

Upper bar you have: Home icon only, then text, text, text, then text and icon, text and icon, text and icon.
Then a bunch of info jumbled without alignment.

Beta menu the top strip is all text, clock is visible, separated from current car info.

Why move away from the space since everything hides anyway?
 
IMO, Too busy. The one in the beta was perfect.
The bar up top takes up more space than needed. It would be nice if there was a second screen for those options or a button to pop them up. The information box in the top right is great, except for the styling. I agree the menu screen in the beta fits the game a lot better. I don't think the background should be covered by more than 15-ish percent and when it is, I think it should be more translucent or close to being transparent. Hopefully, beta testers share the feeling of the beta menu screen being better and to keep it as similar to it as possible. Having things covering up the background should be taken into great consideration and cluttering the screen with basic looking boxes doesn't look pleasing.

At the end of the day, I think most people were pleased with GT5 Prologue's screens and the current beta's screens. GT5 2.0 and GT6 needed more excitement, for lack of a better term. I would really like it if they took in the direction of GT5 Prologue, but also GT5 2.0 with customizing the looks. Maybe even have two different palettes to start from. IMO it's a lot like customizing your driver's outfit, except with menu customization it's always visible so it should let the player choose how it feels. It's very much an emotional and creative aspect that should ultimately be suited to and left in the hands of the player.
 
Disagree on that one - for me this looks super fancy and modern and expensive.

Leaves a lot of room for the scape BG too.

Good work PD :)

Looks clean , sleek , and user friendly , fine by me.

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Problem is that they squeezed everything into the top bar when using the whole screen frame isn't a problem since everything disappears.
And there's just too much variation, between icon/text/icon and text plus the car/rating with icon/other icons with numbers and small clock with other small icons.
 
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Problem is that they squeezed everything into the top bar when using the whole screen frame isn't a problem since everything disappears.
And there's just too much variation, between icon/text/icon and text plus the car/rating with icon/other icons with numbers and small clock with other small icons.
The scaling of the boxes in this picture is a lot better than the new menu from E3. Overall, the E3 menu not only feels like it takes up more space, but the top bar specifically takes up a lot of space when you consider how small the words are. The top bar is like a briefcase with a dollar bill. It doesn't look right. At least with this menu, the boxes are in proportion. The style of the E3 menu is bland and could be tidier. If I had the option, I would not choose to stick with the new menu.

Disagree on that one - for me this looks super fancy and modern and expensive.

Leaves a lot of room for the scape BG too.

Good work PD :)
IMO it looks soulless. I don't see how you think it looks fancy. No offence. It lacks a sense of style. It isn't that it looks bad and it gets the job done, but aside from the information box on the top right, I feel that it's basic. Not even dull, just basic.

I can understand how its simplicity is appealing as I prefer simplicity over something complex like the menu screens in FM6, for example. But with FM6, at least it tries in the style department. This new E3 menu is great in keeping with the background and I totally prefer the background to the lack of one in GT5 and 6; not being able to pick a background was a horrible idea.

Maybe if we can alter how it looks by simply changing the size, color and even slightly different styled boxes. That sounds like changing everything, which it is to a point, although the positioning and options are more than fine. Points for the idea of keeping it simple, but that seems to hurt it as well.
 
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The scaling of the boxes in this picture is a lot better than the new menu from E3. Overall, the E3 menu not only feels like it takes up more space, but the top bar specifically takes up a lot of space when you consider how small the words are. The top bar is like a briefcase with a dollar bill. It doesn't look right. At least with this menu, the boxes are in proportion. The style of the E3 menu is bland and could be tidier. If I had the option, I would not choose to stick with the new menu.


IMO it looks soulless. I don't see how you think it looks fancy. No offence. It lacks a sense of style. It isn't that it looks bad and it gets the job done, but aside from the information box on the top right, I feel that it's basic. Not even dull, just basic.

I can understand how its simplicity is appealing as I prefer simplicity over something complex like the menu screens in FM6, for example. But with FM6, at least it tries in the style department. This new E3 menu is great in keeping with the background and I totally prefer the background to the lack of one in GT5 and 6; not being able to pick a background was a horrible idea.

Maybe if we can alter how it looks by simply changing the size, color and even slightly different styled boxes. That sounds like changing everything, which it is to a point, although the positioning and options are more than fine. Points for the idea of keeping it simple, but that seems to hurt it as well.
It's just a menu with icons and texts. I don't think it's such a big deal to be labeled "soulless" :lol: But it could be better and a lot worse imo
 
It's just a menu with icons and texts. I don't think it's such a big deal to be labeled "soulless" :lol: But it could be better and a lot worse imo
It's plain. I've said it has simplicity going for it. I see what they're going for, yet it's unappealing. It's not much to ask for it to look appealing.

Presentation is part of the package. The new menu has done little to advance this "minor" aspect of the introduction.
 
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Personally, I prefer the new menu.
The box with all the information is the best part. That, I do like. The rest of the top bar is obtrusive though. Too big with the font size not making a good fit. The side bar fits. It's all about that top bar that bothers me. If it pops up with the push of a button, it would help, so in other words, if it doesn't block the background permanently. Still, it's an eyesore.

It's definitely more subjective than not, but they can do better. That's probably what bothers me more than it should. Compared to how cutting-edge the gauges are or how clean and beautiful the showroom is, the new menu could look to complement the rest of the design choices.
 
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Edit : In Arcade Mode there are list of selection with Single Race, VR, Time Trial and Drift Trial :


Wait...no Party/Local Multiplayer mode? I know it's 2017 but... :(
Now how could I race my friends and families together?
 
Wait...no Party/Local Multiplayer mode? I know it's 2017 but... :(
Now how could I race my friends and families together?

Probably hidden under Single Race selection. I think we need direct capture to make things clear, just like last year E3 showing gameplay and menu features.
 
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