Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion

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So fears confirmed about the official Campaign mode...who the **** at Sony and PD thought we wanted a glorified License tests as the main thing for a campaign? How far has this series fallen. This won't sell near as well as GT5. Would not be surprised if Gt6 did better,
 
Nice video showing "Offline campaign" mode and more...



We finally get a deeper look at the Campaign Mode. And it confirms what's been speculated all along: no race events where you can enter with your own car or endurance races to be found like in past GT games.

Nice to see the livery editor in action though. Big variety decals out of the box.
 
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So fears confirmed about the official Campaign mode...who the **** at Sony and PD thought we wanted a glorified License tests as the main thing for a campaign? How far has this series fallen. This won't sell near as well as GT5. Would not be surprised if Gt6 did better,
If that wasn't bad enough I noticed the reward for passing one of the license tests is 1900 credits.
 
Lot of Negativity in here. I won't Judge It until I review it myself, Pitchforks down.
People are just judging what they have shown so far...and so far campaign looks like a joke...1 lap battle? Small micro challenges? Why would I want that? I want full racing, multiple laps, events. I'd rather a straight gt6 port then this. I don't understand how a huge franchise like this has gotten to this state, the competition is so far ahead at this point.
 
Lot of Negativity in here. I won't Judge It until I review it myself, Pitchforks down.
We're just about two months away for them to make changes, even less so if you think about the month or so it takes to go gold. I doubt that campaign mode, that people are rightfully having an issue with, is going to change so drastically that it looks like a completely different mode. Much hasn't changed within that since it was announced over a year ago.
 
For me personally the enjoyment I got from the last couple of GTs wasn't grinding Sunday Cup races, it was driving cars fast and being challenged by things like the Vettel events, time trials and shuffle races against good players.

I'd like to have seen a few big endurance races but at least we finally get a livery editor and a pretty good looking one at that, hopefully PD supports the game well like they have in the past and adds a few modes/features that appear to be missing.
 
I seriously don't understand some people who think if the game isn't the same or greater than Project Cars 2, it's not worth buying.
  • If the game doesn't run at 60fps with dynamic weather it's a disappointment
  • If the game doesn't have sounds equivalent to Project Cars 2 or greater it's a disappointment
  • If the game has more fantasy content it's a disappointment
  • If the game has simplified physics, they're counted as broken
  • If the game has fantasy cars, it's a disappointment
  • If there's only one old car in the game it's a disappointment
  • If the bonnet cam is positioned differently it's unusable
  • If the VGT lineup races against real cars then it's no longer a driving sim
  • If the game has oval tracks it's a disappointment
  • If the game's driver rating system isn't what you prefer, it's broken
  • If the game doesn't have hyper-realistic anything it's a disappointment
*why have you betrayed us Kaz? I no longer respect you reeeeeeeeeeeeeee! (that was a real thread)
With expectations as high as these, you'd put Gordon Ramsey to shame.
Seriously, every new thread turning into a slugfest of disappointment and negativity is leaving me really concerned about the health of the Gran Turismo community, and if it stays this way after launch, I'm going to distance myself from it.
 
Lot of Negativity in here. I won't Judge It until I review it myself, Pitchforks down.

That Gamespot-video changed my sentiment a bit. Went from very pessimistic to mildy optimistic. Offline career seems different but solid! It has a kind of driveclub-setup to it. I like the way it is has been structured. The interface looks slick and all the little facts that come bye are 👍
 
I seriously don't understand some people who think if the game isn't the same or greater than Project Cars 2, it's not worth buying.
  • If the game doesn't run at 60fps with dynamic weather it's a disappointment
  • If the game doesn't have sounds equivalent to Project Cars 2 or greater it's a disappointment
  • If the game has more fantasy content it's a disappointment
  • If the game has simplified physics, they're counted as broken
  • If the game has fantasy cars, it's a disappointment
  • If there's only one old car in the game it's a disappointment
  • If the bonnet cam is positioned differently it's unusable
  • If the VGT lineup races against real cars then it's no longer a driving sim
  • If the game has oval tracks it's a disappointment
  • If the game's driver rating system isn't what you prefer, it's broken
  • If the game doesn't have hyper-realistic anything it's a disappointment
*why have you betrayed us Kaz? I no longer respect you reeeeeeeeeeeeeee! (that was a real thread)
With expectations as high as these, you'd put Gordon Ramsey to shame.
Seriously, every new thread turning into a slugfest of disappointment and negativity is leaving me really concerned about the health of the Gran Turismo community, and if it stays this way after launch, I'm going to distance myself from it.
Why are you so worried about what other people think of the game and whether they are going to buy it or compare it to the competition? There are positive and negative opinions about all racing games on these forums. It's not an echo chamber, we all have different wants/needs/desires/preferences. It's never going to change.
 
The UI still looks very slick,
That Gamespot-video changed my sentiment a bit. Went from very pessimistic to mildy optimistic. Offline career seems different but solid! It has a kind of driveclub-setup to it. I like the way it is has been structured. The interface looks slick and all the little facts that come bye are 👍

Looks very slick as It's ever been! Reminds me a lot of what GT5P was like Menu Wise & that wasn't a bad thing at all. I still very enjoyed what It had to offer. & I like to have something nice in the background when I'm blogging or on the PC whilst playing at the same time.

I seriously don't understand some people who think if the game isn't the same or greater than Project Cars 2, it's not worth buying.
  • If the game doesn't run at 60fps with dynamic weather it's a disappointment
  • If the game doesn't have sounds equivalent to Project Cars 2 or greater it's a disappointment
  • If the game has more fantasy content it's a disappointment
  • If the game has simplified physics, they're counted as broken
  • If the game has fantasy cars, it's a disappointment
  • If there's only one old car in the game it's a disappointment
  • If the bonnet cam is positioned differently it's unusable
  • If the VGT lineup races against real cars then it's no longer a driving sim
  • If the game has oval tracks it's a disappointment
  • If the game's driver rating system isn't what you prefer, it's broken
  • If the game doesn't have hyper-realistic anything it's a disappointment
*why have you betrayed us Kaz? I no longer respect you reeeeeeeeeeeeeee! (that was a real thread)
With expectations as high as these, you'd put Gordon Ramsey to shame.
Seriously, every new thread turning into a slugfest of disappointment and negativity is leaving me really concerned about the health of the Gran Turismo community, and if it stays this way after launch, I'm going to distance myself from it.

Couldnt' agree more with this Statement!
 
Why are you so worried about what other people think of the game and whether they are going to buy it or compare it to the competition? There are positive and negative opinions about all racing games on these forums. It's not an echo chamber, we all have different wants/needs/desires/preferences. It's never going to change.

If that's so, then why do they need to be compared more than once? Shouldn't one general comparison be enough?
 
A lot of assumptions still being made. Total campaign now has over 200+ events and all they showed was the very first mission and already it's concluded the rest of the campaign are all the same small driving test. With 200+ events I'm reserving judgement until we see what else there is.
 
If that's so, then why do they need to be compared more than once? Shouldn't one general comparison be enough?
Because. It's. A. Discussion. Forum. Everyone wants to have their say. Sometimes people are happy just throwing up a like to a post that echos their thoughts, sometimes they want to speak their mind. That's how it works.
 
I seriously don't understand some people who think if the game isn't the same or greater than Project Cars 2, it's not worth buying.
It's not the fact that it's not greater than Pcars2. I think its more about the fact that this is the outcome of 4+ years of development for a game that seems lackluster on paper when you look at Pcars2. I for one preferred GT and Forza over Pcars, greatly. However, this time around, I'm not sure how I feel about GTS just yet.

If the game doesn't run at 60fps with dynamic weather it's a disappointment
And the issue is what? We had issues with these features on in the past, and now it still seems like an issue even with the removal of dynamic situations. What does that have to do with Pcars, though? We have no idea if it'll play as nicely as we hope, and even taking the past into consideration, many many people are worried it'll play out the same.

If the game doesn't have sounds equivalent to Project Cars 2 or greater it's a disappointment
It's not in comparison to Pcars, it's in comparison to itself. There have been updates to it, and they look like they're trying to improve it, but I feel they're a bit sterile still.

If the game has more fantasy content it's a disappointment
People hoped that with the inclusion of the FIA, there would be more "real" content, I suppose. Is that to far-fetched?

If the game has simplified physics, they're counted as broken
I haven't seen this said, at all. I've seen @Scaff talk about things that actually do sound broken, rather than just saying its simple so its broken.

At this point I'm not going to reply to the rest. It's obvious you're overexaggerating everything that has been said about the game just to try to undermine people's valid complaints about things. You're making it an obviously extreme example and not even being reasonable about it. A lot of these things have very valid reasons to be bothered about by different people.

With expectations as high as these, you'd put Gordon Ramsey to shame.
Seriously, every new thread turning into a slugfest of disappointment and negativity is leaving me really concerned about the health of the Gran Turismo community, and if it stays this way after launch, I'm going to distance myself from it.
I'm surprised you don't see the irony in the post you just made. You're introducing a slug fest to everyone by coming around making posts like these. Please do distance yourself, because the last few posts you've made have been following the same trend. That is coming in to threads to complain about people's issues with the game.

My top personal issues are the lack of customization, and offline-campaign mode. Is that unreasonable?
 
I seriously don't understand some people who think if the game isn't the same or greater than Project Cars 2, it's not worth buying.
  • If the game doesn't run at 60fps with dynamic weather it's a disappointment
  • If the game doesn't have sounds equivalent to Project Cars 2 or greater it's a disappointment
  • If the game has more fantasy content it's a disappointment
  • If the game has simplified physics, they're counted as broken
  • If the game has fantasy cars, it's a disappointment
  • If there's only one old car in the game it's a disappointment
  • If the bonnet cam is positioned differently it's unusable
  • If the VGT lineup races against real cars then it's no longer a driving sim
  • If the game has oval tracks it's a disappointment
  • If the game's driver rating system isn't what you prefer, it's broken
  • If the game doesn't have hyper-realistic anything it's a disappointment
*why have you betrayed us Kaz? I no longer respect you reeeeeeeeeeeeeee! (that was a real thread)
With expectations as high as these, you'd put Gordon Ramsey to shame.
Seriously, every new thread turning into a slugfest of disappointment and negativity is leaving me really concerned about the health of the Gran Turismo community, and if it stays this way after launch, I'm going to distance myself from it.

Why are you triggered how others feel? people are entitled to want what they want, and campaign wise this looks terrible. Do you want this to be a blind fanboy jerk fest?
 
It's not the fact that it's not greater than Pcars2. I think its more about the fact that this is the outcome of 4+ years of development for a game that seems lackluster on paper when you look at Pcars2. I for one preferred GT and Forza over Pcars, greatly. However, this time around, I'm not sure how I feel about GTS just yet.


And the issue is what? We had issues with these features on in the past, and now it still seems like an issue even with the removal of dynamic situations. What does that have to do with Pcars, though? We have no idea if it'll play as nicely as we hope, and even taking the past into consideration, many many people are worried it'll play out the same.


It's not in comparison to Pcars, it's in comparison to itself. There have been updates to it, and they look like they're trying to improve it, but I feel they're a bit sterile still.


People hoped that with the inclusion of the FIA, there would be more "real" content, I suppose. Is that to far-fetched?


I haven't seen this said, at all. I've seen @Scaff talk about things that actually do sound broken, rather than just saying its simple so its broken.

At this point I'm not going to reply to the rest. It's obvious you're overexaggerating everything that has been said about the game just to try to undermine people's valid complaints about things. You're making it an obviously extreme example and not even being reasonable about it. A lot of these things have very valid reasons to be bothered about by different people.


I'm surprised you don't see the irony in the post you just made. You're introducing a slug fest to everyone by coming around making posts like these. Please do distance yourself, because the last few posts you've made have been following the same trend. That is coming in to threads to complain about people's issues with the game.

My top personal issues are the lack of customization, and offline-campaign mode. Is that unreasonable?

I genuinely don't understand why you're attacking people's Statements? You did on the other Thread to myself and I let It go now you continue to try Multi Quote people to try and stamp down your 'Elite' View. I'll be hitting the Ignore button for the future. What an unpleasant person you are.
 
I genuinely don't understand why you're attacking people's Statements? You did on the other Thread to myself and I let It go now you continue to try Multi Quote people to try and stamp down your 'Elite' View. I'll be hitting the Ignore button for the future. What an unpleasant person you are.
If you can't actually take in a discussion without getting offended and labeling it as an attack, than I recommend staying away from discussions.

Multi-quote is useful for replying to specific points, especially when people don't break up their posts, and especially for those that write in detail.

Good luck to your sensitiveness in the future 👍
 
I genuinely don't understand why you're attacking people's Statements? You did on the other Thread to myself and I let It go now you continue to try Multi Quote people to try and stamp down your 'Elite' View. I'll be hitting the Ignore button for the future. What an unpleasant person you are.
He wasn't attacking anyone lmao, you sound like you need a forum happy place, where no criticism is allowed. Sad, people are allowed to be disappointed, and you are not the one authority on what people can express and post.
 
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