Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion

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trustjab
No competition? What about Project Gotham Racing, Tokyo extreme racer, Burnout 2, Midnight Club, NFS Hot Pursuit 2, Auto Modelista (really cool game), Total Immersion racing (one my favs with those lmps), F1 2001/2002, Sega GT etc.? I think GT had more competition back then than it does now. I bet you could find games with more content than GT3 and ones with less but probably with better physics or this or that. I said it before (don't criticize on me on this) but GT doesn't need to be the best at everything. It never was.
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Midnight Club. Ohhhh yeahhhhh. Mmmmm.
 
trustjab
No competition? What about Project Gotham Racing, Tokyo extreme racer, Burnout 2, Midnight Club, NFS Hot Pursuit 2, Auto Modelista (really cool game), Total Immersion racing (one my favs with those lmps), F1 2001/2002, Sega GT etc.? I think GT had more competition back then than it does now. I bet you could find games with more content than GT3 and ones with less but probably with better physics or this or that. I said it before (don't criticize on me on this) but GT doesn't need to be the best at everything. It never was.
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Well, I don't consider any of those direct competition to GT. Maybe F1, because of GT3 formula GT fantasy cars but that's quite a stretch. All the others were either arcade like games or sold so badly they were never brought up, in general conversations about GT. You might be the first one comparing them for the sake of the argument. You brought up GT3 in comparison to Forza 5. Do you thibk any of those games you mentioned were better than GT3?

Maybe you can draw comparisons in small features, not between the games as a whole. Well you can because you did but I don't think it's a particular good point.

Edit: I played several of those and had lots of fun. Never crossed my mind to compare them to GT as full games.
 
zzz_pt
Well, I don't consider any of those direct competition to GT. Maybe F1, because of GT3 formula GT fantasy cars but that's quite a stretch. All the others were either arcade like games or sold so badly they were never brought up, in general conversations about GT. You might be the first one comparing them for the sake of the argument. You brought up GT3 in comparison to Forza 5. Do you thibk any of those games you mentioned were better than GT3?

Maybe you can draw comparisons in small features, not between the games as a whole. Well you can because you did but I don't think it's a particular good point.

Edit: I played several of those and had lots of fun. Never crossed my mind to compare them to GT as full games.
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It's like you didn't even read my whole comment. It was you saying there was no competition. I just showed you there was, you can't cherry pick now, man! ;) I didn't bring up Forza 5 either, that was probably another poster. I also didn't bring these games up for the sake of argument. I brought them up because just like now there was competition and options. I had a few of those games including GT3 and played a couple others. Project Gotham my friend had, Total Immersion I had, GT3 I had, Hot Pursuit I had, Tokyo Extreme I had.

All those games were racing games around the time GT3 came out and I liked them all. Total Immersion was the first game I played with lmp's. Of course GT is the most memorable. Because even though it didn't have exotics like NFS or lmp's at that time. It was the most rounded game and felt/looked the most real. Something about GT is missing in other racing games. It's hard to explain, but the fluidity of how the game plays when racing with the combo of graphics and car movement and track/environment still amazes me how they do that.
 
trustjab
It's like you didn't even read my whole comment. It was you saying there was no competition. I just showed you there was, you can't cherry pick now, man! ;) I didn't bring up Forza 5 either, that was probably another poster. I also didn't bring these games up for the sake of argument. I brought them up because just like now there was competition and options. I had a few of those games including GT3 and played a couple others. Project Gotham my friend had, Total Immersion I had, GT3 I had, Hot Pursuit I had, Tokyo Extreme I had.

All those games were racing games around the time GT3 came out and I liked them all. Total Immersion was the first game I played with lmp's. Of course GT is the most memorable. Because even though it didn't have exotics like NFS or lmp's at that time. It was the most rounded game and felt/looked the most real. Something about GT is missing in other racing games. It's hard to explain, but the fluidity of how the game plays when racing with the combo of graphics and car movement and track/environment still amazes me how they do that.
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You replied to someone comparing forza 5 low car count to GTS low car count (I don't agree with his post either). You chuckled at ththat comparison and gave GT3 as an example with which people were happy back then (low car count).

I pointed out that GT3 had no competition back in 2001. And I still don't consider any of the games you pointed out to be competition to GT as Forza, PC or AC (to a lesser extent) are. A lot of people say that GT was the king up until Forza showed up. With PCars, that makes even more sense. I never heard any argument for any of the games you mentioned being a threat to GT (GT 3 in this case).

Maybe I'm too strict in what I consider a GT competitor. I don't think that's bad. I just wished competitiors had showed up earlier.
 
trustjab
What's really ironic is that someone who mostly observes negatives about the game and negatively comments on anyone having a positive outlook on it has the nerve to say I had nothing positive in my statement. The first line I said was positive about how I got a laugh out of the comment about GTS being a turd. And the last paragraph was as well.
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There was nothing positive to discuss from what you came in doing, or saying. You're immediate "positive" was followed by a back handed comment and an insistence that people that have had issues with the game or that like the game, or that just want to discuss are wasting their time, and insinuate how it's redundant. You are wasting time, no one else, especially so with your insistence time, after time, after time telling people throughout multiple threads over the years that they are the ones, in fact, wasting their time.

The funny thing, again, is that you've only every payed attention to the negative views about the game. I've literally followed your example by posting what I liked the most versus what I disliked the most, but again, you're choosing to ignore it and being hypocritical about it in the process, telling people that they ignored a positive (not so positive) post. At least I'm not hear pretending I'm posting nice things like you seem to be, as you always try to jump on the ones that are negative and immediately undermine then when you act like you're not.

So the two main areas of concern for me is the lack of what seems to be a career mode, and lack of customization. Those are two main areas that I have voiced my opinion on regularly, and have been the most negative part of the discussions I've been in. The areas I'm looking forward to right now is the photomode/scapes, the livery editor, and although it's not a feature, the outright visual beauty the game shows with it's lighting model. I've also stated many times that I'm going to purchase the game when I eventually get a PS4 as well, so it's not like I'm just making unfounded comments without the intent to give it a try. I do not shy away from making that known, although, like you said, people will only notice the negatives. You portray that quote quite perfectly.
 
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zzz_pt
You replied to someone comparing forza 5 low car count to GTS low car count (I don't agree with his post either). You chuckled at ththat comparison and gave GT3 as an example with which people were happy back then (low car count).

I pointed out that GT3 had no competition back in 2001. And I still don't consider any of the games you pointed out to be competition to GT as Forza, PC or AC (to a lesser extent) are. A lot of people say that GT was the king up until Forza showed up. With PCars, that makes even more sense. I never heard any argument for any of the games you mentioned being a threat to GT (GT 3 in this case).

Maybe I'm too strict in what I consider a GT competitor. I don't think that's bad. I just wished competitiors had showed up earlier.
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No, I chuckled because they said GTS was a turd. Not because they compared it to FM5. What you consider as competition doesn't matter. They're racing games released at the same time period or close to GT3. That's competition from a market pov.

ImaRobot
There was nothing positive to discuss from what you came in doing, or saying. You're immediate "positive" was followed by a back handed comment and an insistence that people that have had issues with the game or that like the game, or that just want to discuss are wasting their time, and insinuate how it's redundant. You are wasting time, no one else, especially so with your insistence time, after time, after time telling people throughout multiple threads over the years that they are the ones, in fact, wasting their time.

The funny thing, again, is that you've only every payed attention to the negative views about the game. I've literally followed your example by posting what I liked the most versus what I disliked the most, but again, you're choosing to ignore it and being hypocritical about it in the process, telling people that they ignored a positive (not so positive) post. At least I'm not hear pretending I'm posting nice things like you seem to be, as you always try to jump on the ones that are negative and immediately undermine then when you act like you're not.

So the two main areas of concern for me is the lack of what seems to be a career mode, and lack of customization. Those are two main areas that I have voiced my opinion on regularly, and have been the most negative part of the discussions I've been in. The areas I'm looking forward to right now is the photomode/scapes, the livery editor, and although it's not a feature, the outright visual beauty the game shows with it's lighting model. I've also stated many times that I'm going to purchase the game when I eventually get a PS4 as well, so it's not like I'm just making unfounded comments without the intent to give it a try. I do not shy away from making that known, although, like you said, people will only notice the negatives. You portray that quote quite perfectly.
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You're not making sense. You picked one comment and try to make it out like I focus solely on those saying negative things and think that's negative. How is that a discussion? I really don't wanna discuss anything with you. I'm just being courteous and replying trying to show my side and what I see. But now what I see is that's not going to happen, because in your view I'm the actual negative one because I only notice negative comments from negative posters. That assumption would be a negative as I said that there are lots of the same negative and positive arguments. But I am positive this is the last time I'll reply to you :)
 
lancia delta hf
The point is that GT hardcore fans are readily prepared to lower their own standards of a GT logo is slapped on that turd.

4 years ago.

GT fans: ahhh what a scam Forza 5 is, rubbish. 150 cars 17 tracks, laughable. ( or something along those lines).

4 years later

GT Fans: wooo GTS 17, tracks, wooo that half mile oval looks awesome, that other oval looks awesome too, dull Tokyo track looks awesome woo, 150 cars wooo love GT Vision cars, No career mode? Woooo so hyped for GTS.

Yea the turd example is spot on.

It only took 4 years to get here, how long do you want to wait for these possible feature that never may come?

More to the point, why do you need more features when GTS will have the most features than any previous GT game at launch? Source- Kaz.
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PzR Slim
Your reading comprehension is woeful.
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Yes, I must learn to have better reading comprehension. :lol:
 
Zlork
@trustjab You forget Enthusia ;)

And :

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Beautiful ! But I don't understand why Sony don't put PS4 Pro in their bundle....
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From the PS Blog (https://blog.eu.playstation.com/201...turismo-sport-playstation-4-console-revealed/):

We will also have a standalone Limited Edition DUALSHOCK 4, as well as a version that’s bundled with a standard copy of the game*.

That’s not all though – we have more bundles available to suit every player which all come with a standard copy of Gran Turismo Sport on Blu-ray disc*:

  • Jet Black PS4 1 TB edition
  • Jet Black PS4 500GB edition
  • Jet Black PS4 1TB + extra Jet Black DUALSHOCK 4 edition
  • Jet Black PS4 Pro edition
*Check local retailers for further details regarding price and stock availability
 
I'm mainly disappointed no one asks Kaz about a track creator. No questions, no denials, no word about its presence in the future. PS4 is how much easier for developers to use and there's a probability GTS won't feature any kind of track editor? It's a tough pill to swallow.
 
PzR Slim
I was the one that brought turds into the conversation and it had nothing to do with GTS. It was an observation of how some people view GT.
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I didn't quote you. I quoted the guy saying "turd example". He took your words and used them in another context which I thought was funny.
 
another_jakhole
I'm mainly disappointed no one asks Kaz about a track creator. No questions, no denials, no word about its presence in the future. PS4 is how much easier for developers to use and there's a probability GTS won't feature any kind of track editor? It's a tough pill to swallow.
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I think it would have been talked about by now if there was one in there. Particularly when you look at the relatively low track count. They would have surely talked about a track creator to counter that.
 
commanderr
From the PS Blog (https://blog.eu.playstation.com/201...turismo-sport-playstation-4-console-revealed/):

We will also have a standalone Limited Edition DUALSHOCK 4, as well as a version that’s bundled with a standard copy of the game*.

That’s not all though – we have more bundles available to suit every player which all come with a standard copy of Gran Turismo Sport on Blu-ray disc*:

  • Jet Black PS4 1 TB edition
  • Jet Black PS4 500GB edition
  • Jet Black PS4 1TB + extra Jet Black DUALSHOCK 4 edition
  • Jet Black PS4 Pro edition
*Check local retailers for further details regarding price and stock availability
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Bump


Me likey the controller. My old 20th anniversary DS4 stopped charging, because I'm an idiot who thought using any charger would suffice.
 
GT Sport PS4 limited edition bundle is rather meh. Although i wouldn't mind getting that controller as stand alone since I'm bored of my standard black DS4 and I always like to gather together with friends and family so more controllers is needed for me.

Tuscan37

I'm worried about fake (original) banners on the track :(
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IMO, Nothing that interesting apart from the down shifting gear sound effect inside the Audi that got changed a bit or maybe my mind is lying to me.

Off topic but why does my note 4 likes to sometimes up/down scale my text on GTP posts?
 
commanderr
From the PS Blog (https://blog.eu.playstation.com/201...turismo-sport-playstation-4-console-revealed/):

We will also have a standalone Limited Edition DUALSHOCK 4, as well as a version that’s bundled with a standard copy of the game*.

That’s not all though – we have more bundles available to suit every player which all come with a standard copy of Gran Turismo Sport on Blu-ray disc*:

  • Jet Black PS4 1 TB edition
  • Jet Black PS4 500GB edition
  • Jet Black PS4 1TB + extra Jet Black DUALSHOCK 4 edition
  • Jet Black PS4 Pro edition
*Check local retailers for further details regarding price and stock availability
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THAT DUALSHOCK 4 IS MIIIIIINE!!!!
 
lancia delta hf
The point is that GT hardcore fans are readily prepared to lower their own standards of a GT logo is slapped on that turd.

4 years ago.

GT fans: ahhh what a scam Forza 5 is, rubbish. 150 cars 17 tracks, laughable. ( or something along those lines).

4 years later

GT Fans: wooo GTS 17, tracks, wooo that half mile oval looks awesome, that other oval looks awesome too, dull Tokyo track looks awesome woo, 150 cars wooo love GT Vision cars, No career mode? Woooo so hyped for GTS.
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ImaRobot
It was such a big, shared, sentiment when it came out that it's hard not to generalize it like that. The backlash against that game for doing exactly what is happening with GTS now was rather large, and it's interesting to see a lack of similar approach with this game, now.
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Oh look, the same posters trying their hardest at making a strawman :lol:
At this point I'm sure everyone on this forum knows the schtick you guys have against GT.

trustjab
think GT had more competition back then than it does now.
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This is actually true. NFS was a monster series back in the day and caught more attention from racing fans than any PC Cars or Forza could ever. The racing genre has massively declined, Europe is the only region where the genre is still bustling and thats mainly due to GT. If GT collapses (2-3 million lifetime), which it won't, the genre is in serious trouble in the eyes of AAA pubs.
 
GT6mebe
Oh look, the same posters trying their hardest at making a strawman :lol:
At this point I'm sure everyone on this forum knows the schtick you guys have against GT.
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Play the ball not the man.

And if you want to be pedantic, the introduction of a previous generation title (two generations old) into a comparison between the reception of the first release of titles this generation is closer to a strawman than the comparison that was made.
 

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