Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion

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Was halfway through a race in the Gr.3s when this happened; :(

Somehow managed to still win the race, although my defending wasn't exactly clean with a wobbly wheel. :lol:

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Guys, any hint on fixed gifts, like the Veneno for Silvering all Driver School missions?
Because I'd like to set a full of cars, except for the Gr.B one. I dunno if get 4C lineup, 458 lineup or the WRX (which has also the Gr.B).
 
I think the "Title" say's everything we need to know. It may as well have been titled GT FIA/E-Sport. Clearly made to tutor future drivers on FIA/Race educate. And to reduce the madness experienced in turn 1 of almost every online race ever started regardless of title/vendor.

Again, there is absolutely no way the car and track roster do not expand. And real world laser scanned tracks will have to start showing up soon. I'd be willing to bet that some of the scanned track already in their archives could be adapted and used with this an future editions of GT FIA/E-SPORT 7 in the not too distant future.

The same with cars. Although I suspect the non-racing car roster will be largely driven by the real world sports cars that cross over into FIT-GT, NASCAR and hopefully WTCC and V8 SuperCars. Open wheelers and F1 entries will be feed directly into the game.

There will be a continued infusion of GT Vision simply because Kaz is in love with them. Hopefully there will be no more blackout interior offerings. That gave them a cheap low rent feel and turned off many if not all gamers who might have otherwise given them a shot in hell.

Don't hear anyone complaining about the overabundance of GTR's and RX7's in the game. I think the car roster will be augmented with most of the genuine GT classics being brought back in full 4K regalia, Perhaps even a user vote process involved.
We'll still be at the mercy of Kaz and his love of cars and respect for the classics. And that is not an entirely bad thing.
No one knows the pure joy of firing up your favorite machine on a Sunday afternoon and putting it through it's paces better than Kaz.
So that part of him will be very much alive and well in the game. It's what he does.

The physics and handling dynamics of the game will have to get better. Simply because fledgling drivers need to be raised on the real feel of driving at various tracks and in different weather conditions. I expect changes to the tire properties, not necessarily adjustable by us, but more realistic overall. Same with rain, wind and heat. Day to night transition will make a return.
Again, prospective drivers will have to be trained in these conditions. Hell, I can remember GT being the first franchise to bring rain to racing games. And it looked better than what they have now. The Project Cars people have taken the lead in how weather should be handled in racing games. They are not perfect, but they are clearly the best. PD will have to follow suit....in a hurry because the weather in GT without transition between different conditions is fake and basically sucks. And the same thing can be said of day/night transition.

All n all it's going to be a wait and see type of thing. However, I think PD has and is putting the pieces in place to be the leader.......again. They are going to have to start dropping major bug fixes and DLC to get everyone's attention.
I find it totally unsat to release without consistent wheel support and shabby support for your default controller (DS4 I'm looking at you) which should be the most simple and trouble free method of playing your game.

I would have loved to give driving impressions. However, until PD addresses and fixes the non support of the TS300RS wheel, I suspect the game is dead to be. Because I'll be damned if I pay for another wheel (T300RS GT) just for the privilege of playing GTS.

This too shall hopefully pass. But in the meantime, PCars 2 is a better game as is Assetto Corsa. RFactor 2 is the king of physics.
They all bow to GT Sport in the graphics area, bar none. Just remember, there is more to a standard setting game than just a pretty face (IE top notch graphics) that and advanced on-line interface however is a good start.
 
Whoa. That's rough man. That's not one of the new wheels is it? Which wheel is it?

It's a T500RS, I've taken it apart and should be able to get it welded back together. I noticed a small bolt that screws into the back of the wheel part to stop it flexing backwards and forwards had come out without me noticing, which is why I think it broke.
 
Anyone else find the arcade races on pro much harder in a Gr3 racecar than in a Gr4 one?

Yes but that is because the AI pair of BMW M6 GT3 cars is always a significant amount faster than all the other AI. They need to rebalance those BMWs and then it’s fine I guess.

I’m also avoiding Gr. 3 for that reason, mainly using Gr.4 on pro in arcade single races but it’s maybe a bit on the easy side.
 
I'm happy if GT sheds the Time Attack Car Pokemon fans.

The formula for the series needed to change. You can't recycle the same formula for 6 titles, the world is different now.

I for one had grown tired of the career mode by GT4 or GT5. The collecting cars was fun, however the offline racing was never, ever compelling. You started last and had to overtake AI cars and grind out the rest of the race in first place while trying to keep your mind from wandering.

That's not racing, nor is it motorsport: it's a glorified arcade overtaking challenge. There has been very little offline racing (feeling if you're entered in a race event against competitors) since the early GT1 and 2.

Couldn't have said it better myself. And just to put the "it's time for a change" in perspective - the series has been going on with the same formula for 20 years. I'm sure it's not a big deal if Polyphony after 20 god damn years wanted to do something different for a change.
 
I think the "Title" say's everything we need to know. It may as well have been titled GT FIA/E-Sport. Clearly made to tutor future drivers on FIA/Race educate. And to reduce the madness experienced in turn 1 of almost every online race ever started regardless of title/vendor.

Again, there is absolutely no way the car and track roster do not expand. And real world laser scanned tracks will have to start showing up soon. I'd be willing to bet that some of the scanned track already in their archives could be adapted and used with this an future editions of GT FIA/E-SPORT 7 in the not too distant future.

The same with cars. Although I suspect the non-racing car roster will be largely driven by the real world sports cars that cross over into FIT-GT, NASCAR and hopefully WTCC and V8 SuperCars. Open wheelers and F1 entries will be feed directly into the game.

There will be a continued infusion of GT Vision simply because Kaz is in love with them. Hopefully there will be no more blackout interior offerings. That gave them a cheap low rent feel and turned off many if not all gamers who might have otherwise given them a shot in hell.

Don't hear anyone complaining about the overabundance of GTR's and RX7's in the game. I think the car roster will be augmented with most of the genuine GT classics being brought back in full 4K regalia, Perhaps even a user vote process involved.
We'll still be at the mercy of Kaz and his love of cars and respect for the classics. And that is not an entirely bad thing.
No one knows the pure joy of firing up your favorite machine on a Sunday afternoon and putting it through it's paces better than Kaz.
So that part of him will be very much alive and well in the game. It's what he does.

The physics and handling dynamics of the game will have to get better. Simply because fledgling drivers need to be raised on the real feel of driving at various tracks and in different weather conditions. I expect changes to the tire properties, not necessarily adjustable by us, but more realistic overall. Same with rain, wind and heat. Day to night transition will make a return.
Again, prospective drivers will have to be trained in these conditions. Hell, I can remember GT being the first franchise to bring rain to racing games. And it looked better than what they have now. The Project Cars people have taken the lead in how weather should be handled in racing games. They are not perfect, but they are clearly the best. PD will have to follow suit....in a hurry because the weather in GT without transition between different conditions is fake and basically sucks. And the same thing can be said of day/night transition.

All n all it's going to be a wait and see type of thing. However, I think PD has and is putting the pieces in place to be the leader.......again. They are going to have to start dropping major bug fixes and DLC to get everyone's attention.
I find it totally unsat to release without consistent wheel support and shabby support for your default controller (DS4 I'm looking at you) which should be the most simple and trouble free method of playing your game.

I would have loved to give driving impressions. However, until PD addresses and fixes the non support of the TS300RS wheel, I suspect the game is dead to be. Because I'll be damned if I pay for another wheel (T300RS GT) just for the privilege of playing GTS.

This too shall hopefully pass. But in the meantime, PCars 2 is a better game as is Assetto Corsa. RFactor 2 is the king of physics.
They all bow to GT Sport in the graphics area, bar none. Just remember, there is more to a standard setting game than just a pretty face (IE top notch graphics) that and advanced on-line interface however is a good start.
Sounds like you want a completely different game to roll out in the next year or two. I'm thinking that, if they wanted to build that game, they would have in the last 4 years. I think they released the game they wanted and some more content and probably a couple of features are in the works. Any hopes for significant changes to physics or FFB, dynamic weather and time etc. are probably wishful thinking.
 
The penalty system really is messed up.. hoping PD reads all the complaints but I doubt they care anyway.. having a race online at Dragon Tail and having a great battle with a guy in first place, I’m behind him in 2nd and he messes up the chicane a couple of corners from the end, hits the wall and rebounds into my path so there’s nothing I can do to avoid him, yet I got hit with a 12 second penalty... Hello PD, is this really fair ???
 
Anyone remember the "glitch" in GT6 to take photos of the interior?

Anyone know how to take shots of the interior in this game? I know that photo mode allows an interior view however this is just your view of the cockpit as it looks while driving but there's no way to move the camera around in the interior. Perhaps take a picture from the rear seats looking over the centre console and gear shifter or taking photos of the finer details that you just cannot see in gameplay.
 
Looks like my dominating group E has come to a close, lol! Now I'm matched up with guys from E to B. I do miss seeing a 24 car field though.

I'm seeing a lot of people are using the GTR Gr.4 again. I'm qualifying midfield with my NSX Gr.4 and having some good racing on Dragon Trail. Trying to limit my mistakes, but I keep braking a little too late trying to push to hard. This last race I started 5th or 6th, and finished 3rd. It was a pretty fun battling against a guy, who between us, kept it really clean. We both gave each other room throughout the whole entry, apex, and exit in multiple turns. But he had enough of an advantage on me to claim P2. I need to learn how to do some tuning, as I'm using the stock tunes that come with the game.

After about 5 races total, I'm now Rank D, with a SR rating of A!
 
The game needs more content ASAP. Starting to feel myself already getting bored. Driving School and Challeneges all done, circuit experience about 80%. Sport Mode races only change every week.. Mileage exchange only changes every week. Not a single car i want to buy with money.. Can't use my wheel so i'm stuck using a DS4.

Problem is too, everyone else i know who has the game is starting to feel the same way.. Everyone is already reverting back to GTA or Skyrim, 2k etc..

Not to mention has anyone seen the Amazon reviews? Yikes. It's not looking good for PD.
 
The game needs more content ASAP. Starting to feel myself already getting bored. Driving School and Challeneges all done, circuit experience about 80%. Sport Mode races only change every week.. Mileage exchange only changes every week. Not a single car i want to buy with money.. Can't use my wheel so i'm stuck using a DS4.

Problem is too, everyone else i know who has the game is starting to feel the same way.. Everyone is already reverting back to GTA or Skyrim, 2k etc..

Not to mention has anyone seen the Amazon reviews? Yikes. It's not looking good for PD.

Im not feeling anything like that. Im actually loving the game. Even enjoyed the Brands Hatch Indy Daily on Sport Mode. I just love learning cars and bettering my own times, so its not all about having a million pieces of content.

Ive put in 13 hours of play in so far and finished Driving school, but only 20% through Mission Challenges & Circuit Experience (Mainly because im not rushing through it all). By the time im done with all the content ill have put in 25-30 hours and for the cost even if I stop there its more than covered the cost of purchase.
 
The penalty system really is messed up.. hoping PD reads all the complaints but I doubt they care anyway.. having a race online at Dragon Tail and having a great battle with a guy in first place, I’m behind him in 2nd and he messes up the chicane a couple of corners from the end, hits the wall and rebounds into my path so there’s nothing I can do to avoid him, yet I got hit with a 12 second penalty... Hello PD, is this really fair ???
If i’m going to get unfairly penalized for a crash that wasn’t my fault, i’d rather have GTS’s system where everybody involved gets penalized (which means the person who actually caused the accident is also penalized) rather than a system that tries and fails to determine the person who was at fault and pins the blame on the wrong person, letting the true culprit off scott-free while an innocent person gets stuck with a penalty.

There’s no foolproof system of determining who’s to blame, so I’d rather take the system that errs on the side of ensuring that the person responsible is held accountable, since no matter what there are gonna be situations where people are unfairly penalized. The game isn’t saying that you deserve the penalty, it’s just employing a blanket punishment tactic... so you shouldn’t take it personally and get salty about it. You just gotta accept that yeah, you’re occasionally gonna get penalties you didn’t deserve for the sake of the greater good. Certainly an annoyance, but nothing worth getting bent out of shape over.
 
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Sounds like you want a completely different game to roll out in the next year or two. I'm thinking that, if they wanted to build that game, they would have in the last 4 years. I think they released the game they wanted and some more content and probably a couple of features are in the works. Any hopes for significant changes to physics or FFB, dynamic weather and time etc. are probably wishful thinking.

I hope that you are wrong about changes to FFB. That change/adjustment alone could have a very positive effect on the physics model and how immersive the game becomes. I fear we may have seen the last of weather and day/night changes. That is truly a shame in my eyes. There was something so right about it. I think I did hint at PD releasing another title. However, I suspect that will only be a return to the numbering system.
 
So what are the best performing Gr.3 and Gr.4 cars for today's dailys? I have a million credits to spend! Usually one or two cars tend to be top of the leaderboards for each individual race.

Side note, daily Sport races appear to actually be dailys now, not weeklys.
 
I fear we may have seen the last of weather and day/night changes. That is truly a shame in my eyes. There was something so right about it.

I think that it could easily be a hardware limiting issue we are seeing.

If you take and say the hardware has 100 points worth of processing power you can assign to meet your goals and needs as you use up more power points keeping frame rates up at a higher resolution, you use more power points increasing graphical quality and special lighting features. You use more power points introducing more eye candy in the virtual world in which we race then all of a sudden there are no power points left for the dynamic weather and other features we perhaps would like to see.

You pretty much have to remember that the PS4 is only basically a purpose built 300.00 computer and the hardware available at that price point has limitations. Also as the PS4 is now several years old in its life cycle I am sure the devs have figured out how to optimize their games to extract all the performance possible out of the existing system.

The only limitation on what the gaming companies can manufacture as far as a new system is what they can put in a system and keep the price to a point the average consumer is willing to pay to make the new system worth manufacturing.

At the price point the current system sells for we are actually doing pretty well I think with the performance we are receiving.
 
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