Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion

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I think that it could easily be a hardware limiting issue we are seeing.

No. It's a deliberate design choice by PD.

The previous games had dynamic time and weather, and PCARS2 does both on PS4. There's no reason the PS4 can't — PD has simply prioritized graphic quality and frame rate consistency.
 
can someone please explain me the online ranks ,i mean A its the best rank?

I believe S is the highest rank. Comes after A. In terms of DR, it's all about how fast you are and your wins, and in terms of SR, it's how clean you race. The higher your SR rank, the less ghosting you experience in online races. At S level SR there is no ghosting at all.
 
I'm happy if GT sheds the Time Attack Car Pokemon fans.

The formula for the series needed to change. You can't recycle the same formula for 6 titles, the world is different now.

I for one had grown tired of the career mode by GT4 or GT5. The collecting cars was fun, however the offline racing was never, ever compelling. You started last and had to overtake AI cars and grind out the rest of the race in first place while trying to keep your mind from wandering.

That's not racing, nor is it motorsport: it's a glorified arcade overtaking challenge. There has been very little offline racing (feeling if you're entered in a race event against competitors) since the early GT1 and 2.

Nothing wrong with changing the formula. Neglecting the single player isn’t the way to go about it though.
 
No. It's a deliberate design choice by PD.

The previous games had dynamic time and weather, and PCARS2 does both on PS4. There's no reason the PS4 can't — PD has simply prioritized graphic quality and frame rate consistency.

Made my point exactly and you just basically repeated what I said earlier, the loss of weather has come due to the expense of the higher quality graphics and frame rates, exactly what I said, the PS4 only has so much total power to spread around to the whole package which is the game being released, Choices were made on how to use that power and Dynamic Weather was one of the things cut to allow the other functions to have the computing power that were needed to properly render the choices which did get priority the way that PD wanted to render them.
 
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No need playing game until you het sick of it. Leave rest it for day or two then come back and youll see how good it will be again. And sure we need other games too. Even other racers.
Still playing just arcade or missions. Buying some cars wining some then testing them on tracks on different TOD.
Feels great. Still and without touching sport mode
 
I fear we may have seen the last of weather and day/night changes. That is truly a shame in my eyes. There was something so right about it.

Having just spent a couple of hours playing through another racing game with variable weather, it was incredibly exciting. Having to adapt your driving style and line to account for grip variation and puddles is awesome. It really takes away the feeling of just pounding round and round, because each lap the track is a little different to the lap before. By the end of the race I was running 12 seconds slower than at the start as the rain starting bucketing down, but on any given lap I'd be hard pressed to tell you where those seconds went. Constantly trying to feel out the limit of traction is so satisfying when you get it right, and you really feel like you're achieving something.

I hope it comes back in Gran Turismo, and I hope they go for a more authentic implementation than the simple grip modifiers that were in GT5 and 6.
 
Just a heads up for you guys.

http://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gtsport/news/00_1452594.html

At the following time, we will perform a scheduled maintenance on the 'Gran Turismo Sport' servers. Please note that during this time the online services, including [Sport Mode], will not be available.

[Day & Time]
Every Wednesday, 21: 00 - 23: 00 PDT
* The above time is subject to change.

[IMPORTANT]
During the maintenance period you will not be able to save your progress. Please make sure to manually save from the Top Screen before the maintenance starts.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your understanding.
 
So I noticed the GTR Pace Car is only obtainable as a gift car from getting full gold in the Driver's School, and is not purchasable from Brand Central. I was wondering if anyone has come across any other cars like this?
 
No. It's a deliberate design choice by PD.

The previous games had dynamic time and weather, and PCARS2 does both on PS4. There's no reason the PS4 can't — PD has simply prioritized graphic quality and frame rate consistency.

Yes, I feel it was a design choice. I only hope hardware/memory advances in the computing industry make it possible to process weather and time of day in conjunction with the other graphical bells and whistles that PD chose over weather and time transitions. I do feel the base outlay for a PS System will grow to about $700.00. However, what might rescue the situation is PS platforms with upgradeable GPU CPU. That way the game could be played with the transitions provided you purchase the additional hardware. If you don't desire the weather changes, leave your system stock.
 
Was halfway through a race in the Gr.3s when this happened; :(

Somehow managed to still win the race, although my defending wasn't exactly clean with a wobbly wheel. :lol:

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How the... How did you sheer metal by just driving around? :lol:
 
So has everyone tweeted to https://twitter.com/thegranturismo and https://twitter.com/Kaz_Yamauchi about how awful it is to force online for the whole game, right down to game saves? Not even being able to use scapes, play single player campaign, or save progress is highly ridiculous, especially with all of these server issues. Honestly don't know what Kaz is thinking. They probably want to get data on what users are doing at all times, but this is at the cost of good user experience or downright actual ownership of a game people paid premium price for.
 
Yes, I feel it was a design choice. I only hope hardware/memory advances in the computing industry make it possible to process weather and time of day in conjunction with the other graphical bells and whistles that PD chose over weather and time transitions.

It's not really anything to do with the hardware. It's all about the design philosophy. They did time and weather on PS3, so they could absolutely do it on PS4 if they wanted. But they traded it for better looking everything else.

That's always going to be an option, on any hardware. The only way you get time and weather again is if they choose to make the game overall less graphically stunning than it could be in order to accommodate it. See Forza Motorsport 7 and Project CARS 2.

Polyphony clearly don't have a set target for graphical fidelity, as what would be acceptable on PS4 has changed over the last four years from PS3 premiums being overengineered to PS3 premiums being unacceptable. They decided that they weren't doing time/weather, and then optimised the game around that. Other games decided that they were doing time/weather and then made sacrifices as necessary to make it happen.

Gameplay decides what's left for graphics, not the other way around. Polyphony made certain design choices and this is what we got. Current hardware is more than capable, if developers want to.
 
So why are you intentionally omitting using information from reviews? Seems to me that if you're trying to make an informed decision on a game then you'd want as much information as possible. You can read a review and decide that it sounds like bollocks and ignore it, but to say that you never read reviews means that you're intentionally ignoring information that might influence your purchase.
I don't exactly have time to read pages of text on each and every game I want to buy, but I do read about the general outline of the game and it's features. So yes, I do ignore reviews.

Edit: The game was given to me so I didn't even have to consider the cost!
No. It's a deliberate design choice by PD.

The previous games had dynamic time and weather, and PCARS2 does both on PS4. There's no reason the PS4 can't — PD has simply prioritized graphic quality and frame rate consistency.
Thank goodness they have, because the lag in Project Cars 2 can be a real problem. Screen tearing is common place and sometimes the online lags out SOOO badly that the game stops for about 3 seconds. I've haven't had this problem yet in GT Sport. I know the loss of dynamic time and weather is a bummer, but I do like a game which runs smoothly.
 
So I noticed the GTR Pace Car is only obtainable as a gift car from getting full gold in the Driver's School, and is not purchasable from Brand Central. I was wondering if anyone has come across any other cars like this?

The cars in Millage Exchange are also not purchasable from Brand Central that's why you need this points each week.
 
I don't exactly have time to read pages of text on each and every game I want to buy, but I do read about the general outline of the game and it's features. So yes, I do ignore reviews.

Edit: The game was given to me so I didn't even have to consider the cost!

So you're recommending that people ignore reviews when you had the game given to you for free?

Oh yes, I can see nothing wrong with this chain of reasoning...

Clearly your funds aren't that limited if you can't spare a bit of time to read more than the standard marketing blurb for the product you're purchasing. People with actually limited funds don't YOLO purchase $60 games.

First world problems, eh? When I was a lad we had to get up four hours before we went to bed to walk 3 miles barefoot in the snow to line up outside the game store for 5 hours just to get the chance to touch the empty box the games came in...

Thank goodness they have, because the lag in Project Cars 2 can be a real problem. Screen tearing is common place and sometimes the online lags out SOOO badly that the game stops for about 3 seconds. I've haven't had this problem yet in GT Sport. I know the loss of dynamic time and weather is a bummer, but I do like a game which runs smoothly.

I have no problem with pC2, but then I'm on PC. So...YMMV. Still, if you'd read about pC2 before buying it perhaps you'd have heard about the problems on console. My sympathy is somewhat limited, although I do greatly enjoy the irony.

Still, if it was OK in GT5 and 6 it's OK in pC2, amirite?
 
So you're recommending that people ignore reviews when you had the game given to you for free?

Oh yes, I can see nothing wrong with this chain of reasoning...
I'm not recommending it at all! I never said that! I'm just explaining what I do, I never said it was right.

Clearly your funds aren't that limited if you can't spare a bit of time to read more than the standard marketing blurb for the product you're purchasing. People with actually limited funds don't YOLO purchase $60 games.

First world problems, eh? When I was a lad we had to get up four hours before we went to bed to walk 3 miles barefoot in the snow to line up outside the game store for 5 hours just to get the chance to touch the empty box the games came in...
You don't believe me? I don't have enough time to read reviews! I don't have masses of money either, don't make such accusation! I'm not a rich b**stard like you think, I buy games with plenty of though behind them, did I not mention that earlier? I play big name games like Project Cars, Need For Speed and Gran Turismo. Missing out on them is stupid, because if I miss out on them, I get bored! I shouldn't have to read reviews if I don't want to! Stop making out that I'm buying blind!

I'm not telling anyone to do what I do.

Edit: Let's not take this discussion of course.
 
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i'm happy to not have dynamic time and weather..absolutely hate racing in the wet and dark. For the first time ever i am considering trading this game in. Only 6 decent tracks...hate Nordschleiffe, Willow springs, Tokyo expressway, Bathurst and rally tracks...the made up tracks are pretty awesome in my opinion.
 
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The penalty system really is messed up.. hoping PD reads all the complaints but I doubt they care anyway.. having a race online at Dragon Tail and having a great battle with a guy in first place, I’m behind him in 2nd and he messes up the chicane a couple of corners from the end, hits the wall and rebounds into my path so there’s nothing I can do to avoid him, yet I got hit with a 12 second penalty... Hello PD, is this really fair ???

Happened exactly the same to me, only with a 16sec penalty. Still managed to not be dead last...

Also, on Maggiore Gr.3, went a bit wide on the first corner to avoid hitting the guy in first who broke too much, went off track for a second (if much) and got a 6sec penalty on top. Great.

This happens rarely but when it does it drives me nuts. :D
 
You don't believe me? I don't have enough time to read reviews! I don't have masses of money either, don't make such accusation! I'm not a rich b**stard like you think, I buy games with plenty of though behind them, did I not mention that earlier? I play big name games like Project Cars, Need For Speed and Gran Turismo. Missing out on them is stupid, because if I miss out on them, I get bored! I shouldn't have to read reviews if I don't want to! Stop making out that I'm buying blind!

I believe that you don't read reviews. I believe that you think that reading the marketing info for a game somehow gives you enough information to judge whether it'll be good or not. You're wrong, as we can see with stuff like pCARS2 where you're frustrated by simple performance issues that were common knowledge basically as soon as it released. The smart thing would have been to wait for a patch, and maybe you'd catch a discount while you were waiting.

I believe that you don't really understand what having limited funds is. There's a difference between only having a few hundred dollars a year to spend on gaming because you're a teenager with a part time job, and having to try and find some money for gaming around paying for food and rent. If you really had limited funds, spending 30 to 60 minutes researching a $60 purchase wouldn't be a question; it would be mandatory. That you can buy games without really bothering to see whether you'd like them or there's any game breaking bugs first means that you're not really limited.

You can put as much thought into a purchase as you like, but if that thought is based on faulty information then it was a waste of time. You might as well be YOLO buying if you're trusting the publishers to be honest with you about the pros and cons of their games. It's their job to make them sound desirable, so it's no wonder you end up with these games that sound amazing but play somewhat differently.

You may think that missing out on these hyped marvels of gaming is stupid. I think missing out on other games that I could have spent that money on and enjoyed more is stupid. I don't trust Polyphony, Turn 10 and SMS to tell me the truth about their games. They show only the best, because that's what's in their interest.

I thought FM7 looked awesome. If I'd have bought FM7 sight unseen, I'd now be stuck $100 poorer with a game that doesn't run properly on my computer, is buggy as all get out and full of loot boxes. Instead I saved that money and put it into pCARS2 after reading about it's performance and trying it for myself. I could afford only one or the other, and if I'd simply YOLO purchased FM7 that would have been the wrong call. I'm 5 hours into pCARS 2 after buying it this weekend and it's been incredible (again, on PC, consoles have issues).

You don't have to read reviews if you don't want to. You're not buying blind, but you're intentionally buying with only information that leads you to the decision that you want to make. You don't want to hear information that would make you consider not buying GTS, or pCARS, or NFS, so you don't go looking for it. And that's fine, but at least you could be honest with yourself in that you're buying just because you want to and not because you're a savvy consumer.
 

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