Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion

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This come from the mouth that said "GT6 will receive all VGT cars within 24 months" and after almost 36 months said "All remaining VGT are rolled into GTS"...
Never trust the liar Kaz...
Well he didn't expect that there will be so many of them.
 
The logo of most manufacturers involved in the VGT program sere in GT6 GUI at the very launch so everyone knew how many VGT cars were planned...
I am still waiting them and i wont buy another game from PDI until they will give me what i paid for...

So, what you're trying to say is that you won't be buying GTS unless the remaining VGT's are going to be put into GT6?

You're gonna be waiting an awfully long amount of time...
 
The logo of most manufacturers involved in the VGT program sere in GT6 GUI at the very launch so everyone knew how many VGT cars were planned...
I am still waiting them and i wont buy another game from PDI until they will give me what i paid for...
Yes, and some of the cars even got cancelled.
 
I want Dirty NASCAR. We all know the rules... I want career mode...too. Sometimes I don't want to deal iwth real people online... I prefer the AI.

I want to have fun... not learn etiquette and socialize with boring people online.
 
I want Dirty NASCAR. We all know the rules... I want career mode...too. Sometimes I don't want to deal iwth real people online... I prefer the AI.

I want to have fun... not learn etiquette and socialize with boring people online.
You posted the exact same thing in another thread. Seriously?
Anyway, I'm not entirely sure if NASCAR will be in the game, and there won't be a proper career mode, so... Thing is, who's to say the game won't be fun? Yes, online racing will be the main focus, but that doesn't mean anything - at least to me.
 
This come from the mouth that said "GT6 will receive all VGT cars within 24 months" and after almost 36 months said "All remaining VGT are rolled into GTS"...
Never trust the liar Kaz...

The crap people care about...

Go ahead, miss out on what might be a fantastic racing game because you didn't get to drive once and then never again use a few cars in a years old game.
 
The crap people care about...

Go ahead, miss out on what might be a fantastic racing game because you didn't get to drive once and then never again use a few cars in a years old game.
Weird eh? People caring about stuff they were promised when they paid full price for a game and wasn't delivered? Has that ever happened before?
 
Lets say Gran Turismo was my favorite restaurant, and the last two times my dinner was sub-par. First they threw leftovers in as menu items, next they took away my choice of appetizer. Not only that, they had exciting sounding menu items that I was told I could have if I would just wait a bit. After several hours most of my food finally arrives, once served the waiter never returns to tell me if the rest will arrive or not.

So now they have renovated the place, only they threw out most of the appetizers and dessert. Just main courses, and even those pickings are slim... I don't know about you, but I think it is time to try out a few other restaurants first this time.
 
Lets say Gran Turismo was my favorite restaurant, and the last two times my dinner was sub-par. First they threw leftovers in as menu items, next they took away my choice of appetizer. Not only that, they had exciting sounding menu items that I was told I could have if I would just wait a bit. After several hours most of my food finally arrives, once served the waiter never returns to tell me if the rest will arrive or not.

So now they have renovated the place, only they threw out most of the appetizers and dessert. Just main courses, and even those pickings are slim... I don't know about you, but I think it is time to try out a few other restaurants first this time.
We get it, you don't like the game anymore.
 
I don't get why people come here if GT and Kaz are such a let down for them.
I tend to frequent forums I'm interested in.
But I swear some people come here just to moan.

And should someone poke their head out and suggest that some are carrying on a bit, there's always a hand full of guys ready to cut it off.

This is such a lovely community.
I'll leave you all to it, because this community isn't for me.
 
The crap people care about...

Go ahead, miss out on what might be a fantastic racing game because you didn't get to drive once and then never again use a few cars in a years old game.
Yes i care a "crap" like getting what i paid for...
The course maker in addition was released as a android/ios tablet app and to use it i had to put on my PC a android emulator cause i dont like both android and ios and i dont own any of them and this was a feature promised too and i paid counting on it...

Yes i will go ahead and i will miss a "fantastic game" like you can judge before the release and i will keep playing "crap" like AC, PC and R3E... ;)
 
I don't get why people come here if GT and Kaz are such a let down for them.
I tend to frequent forums I'm interested in.
But I swear some people come here just to moan.

And should someone poke their head out and suggest that some are carrying on a bit, there's always a hand full of guys ready to cut it off.

This is such a lovely community.
I'll leave you all to it, because this community isn't for me.
Sad how it all have become.

Hey. Why should I be here.
 
It was very clear (to me) early on in GT6's life span that the VGT program quickly evolved into a much bigger, ongoing thing, especially when more manufactures started signing up. It was never going to be able to be a PD-dictated timeframe when the manufactures were responsible for designing the actual vehicle/design/project. PD's role is to make the design and its pieces accurate and functional in GT's simulation environment, and that can only realistically be done once the manufacturer has finalized or near-finalized every bit and piece of their creation.

I find it incredibly bizarre how angry some people are that GT6 won't be receiving anymore VGTs - the program isn't being killed off, and all* of the previously released models will be available in the new iteration, which is pretty much 100% guaranteed to be prettier and more accurately simulated than before.

* - We haven't yet seen or been given confirmation on the accessibility of every VGT thus far, and some (SRT) have been modified from their original forms to meet spec regulations (though we still don't know the full extent of the spec regulations or car list).

Like it or not, this is what the VGT program is now, and with all the brand partnership it facilitates, I think it's much better for the GT franchise as a whole.
 
I got 140+k km driven in GT6, 25k alone at Tsukuba,, driven over 500 different cars, build the majority of them using real life method/data. Enjoyed driving them, all this for about US $ 45 back in release day, I got the APEX II book as well and a lot of 15th Anniversay cars + paint packs. I may still play this even after GTS on the market, there are many cars that may be missing in GTS that I can only drive in GT6.

GT6 has many flaws, but I make do with what I have :D My Aventador SV replica is about 90% compared to AC SV, when tested by a member here, subjective opinion I know, but not bad for GT6, the "worst" sim vs the current gen sims.

I only hope PD improve on the physics side, that's all I care about :D
 
Truthfully I could have cared less about the VGT project. I did like the Alpines and the Mazda though. Just one of the holy trinity, or a new comer like Koenigsegg would have been more interesting. Or better yet, class cars to race with the orphan race cars PD put in the game over the years.

I kind of want them out of GT period, or a spin off devoted to them and the Red Bull cars exclusively. GT was at it's best before concept cars ruled the leader boards. If GT BoP has favorites let us hope it falls on the real car side, and the VGT cars are just fillers for when the real cars show up on DLC.

And I kind of wish Kaz would stop excessively racing, and get to work proving everyone wrong, that GT is still the one to beat.
 
VGT project is not the only work PD, make with a variety of manufacturer.
I think it is not easy work than real car.
Actually Alfa Romeo and Bertone, Honda was removed from the project.

In addition, GT6 did not have a interior to many of VGT.
If adding the future VGT to GT6, many people will say, "Where is the interior?"
So, I looking forward to because it contains interior in GTS:)
 
Love the restaurant analogies. Good work.

Also, Kaz is a liar? Can't remember who wrote that, but get over yourself. The guy aint exactly Molyneux eh.

And It's not like you didn't get a decent amount of stuff for your $60 with GT5 and GT6.

Perspective.
Yes sir, I know you ordered fries and cole slaw with that, and, although we forgot to send it, you did get a lot of chicken in your order so stop complaining. We're coming out with a new menu next month, you should order something from that because we have these new side dishes....

Some people don't like getting ripped off. Telling them that you are ok with getting ripped off doesn't exactly make them feel better and it's not exactly something I'd be bragging about myself.
 
I find it incredibly bizarre how angry some people are that GT6 won't be receiving anymore VGTs - the program isn't being killed off, and all* of the previously released models will be available in the new iteration, which is pretty much 100% guaranteed to be prettier and more accurately simulated than before.

I think it's because at the launch of GT6 it was advertised that all the VGTs would be added to the game over the course of the next 12 months. Which sucks, but stuff happens and deadlines get missed so it's not the end of the world.

But to totally ignore completing a feature simply because the game isn't the flavour of the month? I find it incredibly bizarre that people consider that to be acceptable behaviour for a company. I paid for GT6 and by extension for the VGTs that it was advertised as having included. To have them shuffled off to another game and to be told to buy another disk to have access to them strikes me as incredibly disrespectful and dismissive of the customer.

It's not about whether the cars would be better in GTS, they absolutely would be. It's about Polyphony sticking to what they said they would give for the price of a full game.

Put it this way, if they say that they're going to be adding another 20 VGTs to GTS, how can you possibly trust that you won't end up getting ten of them and the other 10 being pushed to GTS2?

Some people may be OK with that from a company, and from this thread some people obviously are. I am not. I like aspects of the Gran Turismo games, but I really, really don't like the abusive corporate attitude that is starting to influence their releases.

Also, Kaz is a liar? Can't remember who wrote that, but get over yourself. The guy aint exactly Molyneux eh.

No, he isn't. But he's also not exactly trustworthy as a source of information about his own game. He says a lot of stuff that may well have been true when he said it but turned out to be false in the fruition of time. That's not exactly professional.

He also does a fair impersonation of Molyneux in how he complains about his past games and hardware as soon as there's a new one to sell. Expect him to regale us all about how difficult it was to make GTS as soon as GTS2 is ready to come on sale.

And It's not like you didn't get a decent amount of stuff for your $60 with GT5 and GT6.

Like many, you're missing the point. It's not whether what you got was acceptable value. It's that the customer made a value judgement when purchasing based on the information that they were given, part of which was the VGT program.

Probably most people would have still bought the game knowing that the VGTs weren't going to be in there. Possibly some wouldn't. But everyone was denied the chance to accurately gauge the value of the game because Polyphony doesn't complete the features and content that the game is advertised to come with.

You may be happy with what you got and that's fine, but it's also fine for people to feel that they were misled into buying a product that ultimately wasn't what it was advertised to be.

For me, the VGT program was the most engaging and interesting part of GT6 at release. It was somewhat of a disappointment, and I remain even more disappointed that I don't even get to see all of it without buying a new console and game. That, for me, is BS.
 
Yes sir, I know you ordered fries and cole slaw with that, and, although we forgot to send it, you did get a lot of chicken in your order so stop complaining. We're coming out with a new menu next month, you should order something from that because we have these new side dishes....

Some people don't like getting ripped off. Telling them that you are ok with getting ripped off doesn't exactly make them feel better and it's not exactly something I'd be bragging about myself.

Ripped off? Come on...

I'm not saying the guy is a saint, but good god, he's not ripping you off.

Bizarre thing to say.
 
Ripped off? Come on...

I'm not saying the guy is a saint, but good god, he's not ripping you off.

Bizarre thing to say.

In the sense that he's not delivering the product advertised, yes he is. And it's not by force majeure, he's made a choice not to deliver the full package. Most companies in that situation offer partial refunds or some other sort of recompense to the customer.

You may not like that particular terminology, but it's not inaccurate.
 
In the sense that he's not delivering the product advertised, yes he is. And it's not by force majeure, he's made a choice not to deliver the full package. Most companies in that situation offer partial refunds or some other sort of recompense to the customer.

You may not like that particular terminology, but it's not inaccurate.

Sure, well if that's your considered opinion, I'd advise you to stay well clear of GTS, videogames in general. Perhaps even the outdoors.
 
Gran Turismo 6 Features List

Over 20 of the world leading companies in the automotive industry have designed special cars for Gran Turismo, celebrating its 15th anniversary. Over the course of approximately 1 year, cars from each company will be provided one by one in the game. This is a festival of cars only possible to experience within Gran Turismo.

The manufacturers who have answered our call are now delivering new Grand Touring cars in succession. “Vision Gran Turismo” is a 15th anniversary celebration that will be hosted by Gran Turismo, car manufacturers and users around the globe. The cars presented will appear one after another in Gran Turismo 6, and as those cars will be driven by more and more people, the festival will get bigger and bigger.

List of participating companies as of 2 December, 2013

Mercedes-Benz
Alfa Romeo
Alpine
Aston Martin
Audi
Bertone
BMW
Daihatsu
Ford
GM DESIGN
Honda
Hyundai
Infiniti
Italdesign Giugiaro
Jordan
Lamborghini
Lexus
Mazda
Mitsubishi
Nike
Nissan
Peugeot
SRT
Subaru
Tesla Motors
Toyota
Volkswagen
 
Lets say Gran Turismo was my favorite restaurant, and the last two times my dinner was sub-par. First they threw leftovers in as menu items, next they took away my choice of appetizer. Not only that, they had exciting sounding menu items that I was told I could have if I would just wait a bit. After several hours most of my food finally arrives, once served the waiter never returns to tell me if the rest will arrive or not.

So now they have renovated the place, only they threw out most of the appetizers and dessert. Just main courses, and even those pickings are slim... I don't know about you, but I think it is time to try out a few other restaurants first this time.

Good analogy. But I think of it as the restaurant didin't have some of the dishes because their food distributor hadn't supplied them with the necessary ingredients to make certain meals. If you're going to shoot anyone, shoot the waiter or management for not making it clear why you didn't get what you wanted. Still, it's not professional to point fingers at your suppliers if they were delayed or backed out. So you chose to eat at an ambitious establishment. Sorry.

And I'm basically referring to the VGT program because most of the standard menu items eventually came to GT6 even though they were late.
 
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