Grand-Prix-Classic

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This second track was altogether more enjoyable.

A) After running away with the top prize last time out, there was no need to change anything about the Fiat - just hit the track and set some times. Oddly, it turned out that the first attempt was the quickest, most likely due to my making more errors as I pushed harder in the later runs.

B) With the limits of FWD in my memory from the first track I elected to spend 4,000cr on a 1.5 Way LSD. This didn't exactly cure the understeer, but it transformed the car into something that felt more like a 4WD. Much more traction and more controlable understeer.

C) The Nissan suffered in traffic last time out, but with more space to move this time I got the chance to get a feel for it's handling. It was sublime. No issues, no drama, no more than a quarter second difference between my best and worst times.

D) The Mustang on the other hand was a right handful. After sliding my way around the track once, I went off to GT Auto for some downforce. Imagine my horror when I discovered there were no compatable wings for my car! With my limited funds there were no other improvements I could afford to improve traction, so it was back to the track and try to take things easy. Easy it was not. Had it not been for half the field going off on the first corner, and the rest doing so in the last corner I wouldn't have stood a chance.

E) Finally for the monster. Like the Mustang I found the going slippery. So slippery in fact that I found myself going sideways into the end of the pit wall, T-boning myself on the first lap. Had I been driving the left hand drive Shelby instead of the UK spec AC then it would probably have been game over for me - permanantly!
While the mechanics were rebuilding my car I had them enact a Stage 1 Weight reduction for 1,200cr. I then returned to the track and took it slowly, setting a banker time and it's just as well that I did. On the third and final attempt I lost the back end and found myself facing the wrong way. By the time I recovered and got going again I was way behind the pack, finally finishing some 6 seconds slower than my previous attempt.

My best run in the Nissan, and first (slow) run in the Mustang have been saved. Hopefully I'll get a chance to convert and upload them at some point.
 
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Beginners Course & Motorland up for all but Class C.

Finances have been updated as well. Class D has a pending listed, if he gets his PS2 fixed and a time in, then I will recalc, so figure your 200 CR poorer and you will not have any problems in Class D, it may be the same in Class C if Jet Badger gets a time in. If the pending ones are in by the time all times are in for the racing period or the two weeks expire they become DNFs.
 
My parts purchases for Motorland.

Code:
Class B
Triumph Spitfire 1500 1974 - British Racing Green

Parts                                  Price
Suspension: Sports                     3,000
Flywheel: Sports                         400
Weight Reduction: Stage 1              1,000


Class C
Lotus Elan S1 1962 - Carnival Red

Parts                                  Price
Suspension: Sports                     3,000


Class D
Plymouth Cuda 440 Six Pack 1971 - Mood Indigo Metalic

Parts                                  Price
Suspension: Sports                     3,200
 
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Its the friendly one week is past warning and one week to go. This cycles when all times submitted or the clock runs out which ever comes first. Everything is progressing on schedule if not even a little ahead of schedule except for Class C. Class C is about three days behind on Jet Badger not submitting a Beginners Course time yet.
 
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Beginners Course & Motorland up for all Classes.

Finances have been updated as well. Class C and D has a pending listed, if he gets his times in, then I will recalc, so figure your 200 CR poorer and you will not have any problems in Class C or D. I moved Jet Badger to pending and Skython11 withdrew his entry from Class C. If the pending ones are not in by the time all times are in for the racing period or the two weeks expire they become DNFs.

This is the only week/racing period I will carry pending entries, from here on out its by the schedule. Woe be the driver though that makes everyone wait for two weeks when they were done long before that. Tension hurts sometimes.
 
Motegi west was nothing to write home about.

The slower cars I left as they were as nothing needed doing to them. The faster cars I left as they were as I could not afford the modifications they really needed.

I also went to the trouble of converting the replay of my first run in the Mustang at Motorland. As you will see I had a lot of trouble with traction, something I had got used to by the third run where I was some 3 seconds quicker!
 
Motegi west was nothing to write home about.

The slower cars I left as they were as nothing needed doing to them. The faster cars I left as they were as I could not afford the modifications they really needed.

I also went to the trouble of converting the replay of my first run in the Mustang at Motorland. As you will see I had a lot of trouble with traction, something I had got used to by the third run where I was some 3 seconds quicker!

Why dont you run practice laps? I never raced some of these tracks befor this, so I practiced my lines until I was consistant and knew the correct line etc.
 
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Asia Grand Prix​

The Asia Grand Prix continues here in Japan with slightly longer courses. The fan base has been growing in their support of the classic series. Sponsors have been increasing their support as well for each driver. The longer more challenging tracks also bring more points for each event and better prize money. First up is the popular track at Tsukuba. We finish off this segment with the only oval track that will be seen all season.

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** Event Info **

Japan
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** Driver Info **

Use a difficulty of 1 for the Family Cup Event when you race it. You may run the Event a maximum of 3 times and chose the best of the three.

All driving aids must be set to 0 on all cars entered.

Use the following form for your times, all times will be submitted by private message to BH-21

Japan - Week 2
Tsukuba_________________________
Suzuka East_____________________
Twin Ring Motegi Super Speedway___

** General Information **

Code:
Week 2
Class A
Car                                                         Driver         Points
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Fiat 500F 1965                                             Flynn77             22
Fiat 500R 1972                                            Car-less             20
Subaru SUBARU 360 1958                                       BH-21             15


Class B
Car                                                         Driver         Points
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Nissan BLUEBIRD 1600 Deluxe (510) 1969                     Ignignoc N Err      22
Marcos Mini Marcos GT 1970                                 Flynn77             20
Honda CIVIC 1500 3door CX 1979                            Car-less             15
Triumph Spitfire 1500 1974                                   BH-21             12


Class C
Car                                                         Driver         Points
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Lotus Europa Special 1971                                  Ignignoc N Err      24
Mazda 110S (L10B) 1968                                     Flynn77             16
Lotus Elan S1 1962                                           BH-21             15
Nissan 240ZG (HS30) 1971                                  Car-less             13
Nissan SKYLINE 2000GT-R (KPGC110) 1973                     Korza493            10


Class D
Car                                                         Driver         Points
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Chevrolet Corvette Stingray L46 350 (C3) 1969              Ignignoc N Err      24
Jensen Interceptor MkIII 1974                              Fabmaru             17
Shelby Mustang G.T. 350R 1965                             Car-less             14
Mercury Cougar XR-7 1967                                   Flynn77             14
Plymouth Cuda 440 Six Pack 1971                              BH-21              9


Class E
Car                                                         Driver         Points
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BUICK Special 1962                                     AndersonG22             22
AC Cars 427 S/C 1966                                       Flynn77             18
Shelby Cobra 427 1967                                      Fabmaru             15
AC Cars 427 S/C 1966                                      Car-less             12
Shelby Cobra 427 1967                                        BH-21             11

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Finacial Statement (Week2)

Class A                 Starting  Weekly                            Ending
Driver                   Balance   Roll   Deposits      Debits      Balance
BH-21                     4,200      8      7,300       10,150       1,350
Car-Less                  6,200      8      8,650            0      14,850
Fabmaru                   5,600     11      3,550            0       9,150   Withdrew
Flynn77                   3,650      8      9,400        4,650       8,400


Class B                 Starting  Weekly                            Ending
Driver                   Balance   Roll   Deposits      Debits      Balance
BH-21                       800      6      5,650        1,550       4,900
Car-Less                  2,600      6      6,550            0       9,150
Fabmaru                   4,400      5      1,750            0       6,150   Withdrew
Flynn77                   4,950      5      7,750        6,630       6,070
Ignignoc N Err            3,950      4      8,050        4,500       7,500


Class C                 Starting  Weekly                            Ending
Driver                   Balance   Roll   Deposits      Debits      Balance
BH-21                     2,400      8      7,150        6,650       2,900
Car-Less                  5,800      6      5,950            0      11,750
Fabmaru                   3,600      7      2,350            0       5,950   Withdrew
Flynn77                   3,750     11      8,350        6,630       5,470
Ignignoc N Err            4,050     11     10,750        4,600      10,200
Korza493                  4,600      6      5,050            0       9,650


Class D                 Starting  Weekly                            Ending
Driver                   Balance   Roll   Deposits      Debits      Balance
BH-21                     1,200      9      5,650        1,250       5,600
Car-Less                  5,200      7      6,550            0      11,750
Fabmaru                   3,700      7      7,450        4,250       6,900
Flynn77                   4,550      6      6,250        6,230       4,570
Ignignoc N Err            5,350     11     10,750       11,300       4,800


Class E                 Starting  Weekly                            Ending
Driver                   Balance   Roll   Deposits      Debits      Balance
AndersonG22               6,200      5      8,350            0      14,550
BH-21                     3,800      7      5,650        4,450       5,000
Car-Less                  3,200      6      5,650            0       8,850
Fabmaru                   3,550     10      7,750        4,500       6,800
Flynn77                   5,150      8      8,050        6,550       6,650

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Race Results
Japan - Week 2                                Times    Points
Class A                                        
Tsukuba                                    _'__.___  
Flynn77                                    3'02.828       8
Car-Less                                   3'24.757       6
BH-21                                      3'35.768       5


Suzuka East                                _'__.___
Flynn77                                    2'42.869       8
Car-Less                                   3'09.781       6
BH-21                                      3'37.820       5


Twin Ring Motegi Super Speedway            _'__.___
Car-Less                                   2'49.473       8
Flynn77                                    2'53.183       6
BH-21                                      2'55.426       5





Class B                                        
Tsukuba                                    _'__.___
Flynn77                                    2'35.098       8
Ignignoc N Err                             2'36.784       6
Car-Less                                   2'39.846       5
BH-21                                      2'43.275       4


Suzuka East                                _'__.___
Ignignoc N Err                             2'19.560       8
Flynn77                                    2'19.737       6
Car-Less                                   2'21.436       5
BH-21                                      2'26.099       4


Twin Ring Motegi Super Speedway            _'__.___
Ignignoc N Err                             1'54.916       8
Flynn77                                    1'54.983       6
Car-Less                                   1'55.172       5
BH-21                                      1'59.832       4




Class C                                        
Tsukuba                                    _'__.___
Ignignoc N Err                             2'20.392       8
BH-21                                      2'23.996       6
Flynn77                                    2'25.532       5
Car-Less                                   2'26.312       4
Korza493                                   2'32.439       3


Suzuka East                                _'__.___
Ignignoc N Err                             2'00.876       8
BH-21                                      2'08.970       6
Flynn77                                    2'10.443       5
Car-Less                                   2'11.185       4
Korza493                                   2'25.647       3


Twin Ring Motegi Super Speedway            _'__.___
Ignignoc N Err                             1'40.306       8
Flynn77                                    1'42.842       6
Car-Less                                   1'44.008       5
Korza493                                   1'45.858       4
BH-21                                      1'46.451       3





Class D                                        
Tsukuba                                    _'__.___
Ignignoc N Err                             2'13.543       8
Fabmaru                                    2'17.246       6
Car-Less                                   2'18.822       5
Flynn77                                    2'19.658       4
BH-21                                      2'22.286       3


Suzuka East                                _'__.___
Ignignoc N Err                             2'02.037       8
Flynn77                                    2'04.927       6
Fabmaru                                    2'06.038       5
Car-Less                                   2'06.268       4
BH-21                                      2'09.729       3


Twin Ring Motegi Super Speedway            _'__.___
Ignignoc N Err                             1'36.201       8
Fabmaru                                    1'36.652       6
Car-Less                                   1'37.774       5
Flynn77                                    1'39.706       4
BH-21                                      1'44.042       3
 




Class E                                        
Tsukuba                                    _'__.___
AndersonG22                                2'04.986       8
Fabmaru                                    2'08.141       6
Flynn77                                    2'08.354       5
BH-21                                      2'09.474       4
Car-Less                                   2'09.865       3


Suzuka East                                _'__.___
AndersonG22                                1'52.228       8
Car-Less                                   1'55.202       6
Flynn77                                    1'56.291       5
Fabmaru                                    1'59.662       4
BH-21                                      2'00.453       3


Twin Ring Motegi Super Speedway            _'__.___
Flynn77                                    1'25.432       8
AndersonG22                                1'25.866       6
Fabmaru                                    1'29.304       5
BH-21                                      1'30.141       4
Car-Less                                   1'30.410       3
 
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Ignignoc N Err, Car-less found a couple errors in my finacial statements, they are fixed now and you have 100 CR less then previous statement.

P.S. I left Car-lesses name out the first time i wrote this. He has done a lot of support work in keeping me honest.
 
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Are times due all at once, or can we do one track at a time and wait for the results?

Two-week block or one?

If two, when are times for first track due?
 
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If you drive all 5 cars on the first track of Week (Racing Period) with in the first 4 days of that Week (Racing Period) your fine. Hopefully all times for that single track are in by the end of that 4 day period. This is repeated till the three track block is done. There are two days of padding in the 2 week block. If 14 days expires then that Week (Racing Period) is over.

If you look on the first page there is a graphic representation of this. This in no way prevents you from doing everything at one time.
 
Why dont you run practice laps? I never raced some of these tracks befor this, so I practiced my lines until I was consistant and knew the correct line etc.

With all the races I'm entered in, I don't really have time for practise.

Also, with over 75,000 miles A-spec in GT-Mode, and having driven every car in the game in Arcade mode, I don't think I should need the practise.

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Class B
Car                                                     Driver         Points
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Triumph Spitfire 1500 1974                               BH-21             [B]11[/B]

Code:
Class B                 Starting  Weekly                            Ending
Driver                   Balance   Roll   Deposits      Debits      Balance
BH-21                     2,000      [B]5[/B]      [B]2,400[/B]        4,400           0

Code:
Race Results
Japan - Week 1                                Times    Points
Class B                                        
Beginner Course                            _'__.___
BH-21                                      1'09.277       2

Motorland                                  _'__.___
BH-21                                      1'52.186       5

Twin Ring Motegi West Short Course         _'__.___
BH-21                                      1'54.889       [B]4[/B]

I think you're missing your winnings from Motegi West.

Now for my Tsukuba ramblings;
* My Fiat 500 couldn't keep up with a Honda Life Step Van. I think it might need a bit more power!
* Forgot to turn in for the last corner on the first time out with the Civic and ended up deep in the sand. At least it wasn't a total waste as the practise meant I knew what gears to take each corner in, and where best to pass the opposition.
* The Nissan 240ZG is quickly becoming my favorite car in the series. Perfectly balanced with just enough power to make the back end step out if you're lead footed. I'm scared to make any changes to this one in case I mess up the balance. I expect I'll keep it stock for as long as possible. Won all 3 attempts without any trouble.
* The Shelby Mustang on the other hand is really starting to bother me. It has horrendous traction issues and breaks loose at every chance - it would probably make a good drift car. I can't wait until I can afford to put some sticky tyres on it and start saving to sort the 🤬 brakes.
* The AC 427 was unsurprisingly a bit of a handful. In fact I wrecked it on each of the first two attempts;
A Callaway C12 punted me off into the wall entering turn 7 on the first lap, and again exiting the final corner of the second lap in the first race.
In the second race a GT-R Concept brake checked me half way along the start/finish straight and I piled into the back of him. Later on I spun and went backwards into the wall.
Even the third race was far from clean. I bumped into a BMW M5 and a Dodge Viper, but these shunts were minor in comparason. I'm not sure this car will survive long enough for me to gain the funds to fix it up!
 
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Fiat: stage 1 turbo - 4500cr (18hp -> 42hp); 1800cr remaining

Marcos: stage 1 turbo - 4600cr (81hp -> 107hp), sports clutch - 1600cr, sports flywheel - 430cr; 70cr remaining

Mazda: stage 1 turbo - 4600 (134hp -> 151hp), sports clutch - 1600cr, sports flywheel - 430cr; 670cr remaining

Cougar: stage 1 weight - 1100cr, sports suspension - 3100cr, sports clutch - 1600cr, sports flywheel - 430cr; 370cr remaining

427 S/C: stage 1 weight - 1200cr, sports suspension - 3200cr, sports clutch - 1700cr, sports flywheel - 450cr; 1250cr remaining
 
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Thanks Car-less for back stopping me.

Flynn, and anyone else in the future, do not make me deduce the cost of the parts you buy. Post their cost and I will deduct it from your bank balance.

Flynn I will not refigure your bank balance until you post the cost of each individual part you bought.
 
My parts for Tsukuba.

Code:
Class B
Triumph Spitfire 1500 1974 - British Racing Green
Oil Change                                50
Clutch: Sports                         1,500

Class C
Lotus Elan S1 1962 - Carnival Red
Oil Change                                50

Class D
Plymouth Cuda 440 Six Pack 1971 - Mood Indigo Metalic
Oil Change                                50
Weight Reduction: Stage 1              1,200

Class E
Shelby Cobra 427 1967 - Guardsman Blue Poly
Oil Change                                50
Suspension: Sports                     3,200
 
When are times for first track due?

Technically four days after I post the Week Banner Post with the information about it and financial statements rosters. Its not a strick date though, but if you don't have a single track time in by the time everyone else has theirs in, you will be DNF'ed and we will move on. If you have at least one track time in, we will wait the two weeks total to get the times in. If anyone still doesn't have a time in by then, then all those not submitted will be DNF'ed.

Basically this league should flow at the pace the drivers in it want to move along at, with two weeks being the maxium I and others should have to wait for a three track block to be completed.
 
I'm too lazy for the series, I'm pulling out. I tell myself, oh just do it, but I'm soo lazy I can't be bothered plugging it all in
 
Pardon my language, but it really pi$$es me off to see a Dodge Ram in the lineup when I'm racing my Fiat 500F. :grumpy:
 
Unfortunately, with GT4 not having a configurable familycup type race, you take what you can get. I know, it bugs me too.
 
Bluebird_______5,400
St. 1 Turbo_____4,500
Rem. Balance____900

HP after upgrade: 106

Europa________7,600
St. 1 Turbo_____4,600
Rem. Balance___3,000

HP after upgrade: 167

Corvette_______8,900
+no changes+
 
Sorry but I will have to quit from class A,B and C. I don't have time for all these competitions. I will send you the Class D & E times later.
 
Sorry but I will have to quit from class A,B and C. I don't have time for all these competitions. I will send you the Class D & E times later.

So you're quitting the classes that you've placed third or lower on and are keeping the ones that you've placed second or better on?
 
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