GT Academy 2012 (EU) General Discussion

[Pagey279]

Rather tired! Hate working and doing this can see why it can be annoying to people on that front! I wish they would remove this active steering I think it's a big help for the chicane leading to that straight. I'm not using it, I tried it for 1 lap and I'd have to change my entire driving style just to use it, and I think I can get the times without it! Just need to practice that part of the track a bit (As that's where the main time is gained/lost), and not be tired lol (Was on for a .4 but messed up second to last bend )!

I tried driving without active steering at first as well, but noticed the fast guys had it on strong so I put it on. It makes the car much more stable, and it didn't take much at all to adapt to driving with it on.

 

[Doodle]

Just to give you a heads up, Ti-tech is on the move now and already he's 5th in the world and the fastest in France

 

[Tidgney]

I tried driving without active steering at first as well, but noticed the fast guys had it on strong so I put it on. It makes the car much more stable, and it didn't take much at all to adapt to driving with it on.

Maybe but I don't want to adapt my style just for a driving Aid so I'll keep at it without for now, if it ends up you need it I may just head over to a wildcard event and give it a bash there. I know most people using it will still be up there but I don't see why they allow aids here and then not at the finals might aswell just keep it all on the same level. We'll see though over the coming days I can definitely see a .1 without the steering though.

 

[TankAss95]

Nice one for all your info on the whole ffb thing
cant wait to get stuck in on the action will be hoping to get a gold all going well.The wheel should make it more of a sim outta the game. now i must just sort out a seat.
tank ass your a legend thanks again

No problem! 👍

Tell us how your getting on and if you have any questions just ask.

 

[markyboy92]

Markyboy, I'm not so sure.

Chasing the UK ghost of 1:31.3 there are places I'm gaining on it, e.g. I can be faster than it down the main straight, I can out brake it in two of the slower corners... that said however, there are a lot of places it's leaving me though too - 1st corner, chicane, carrying speed under the 2nd bridge and one of the final tight left handers.

Usually in GT Academy the laps that end up near the final of the competition are the perfect lap strung together... So perfect, that if you haven't even 'entered' the start / finish straight 'perfectly' (i.e. ruined the prior lap to set it up) - then the lap you're about to start won't even be anywhere near.

[EDIT] what I'm trying to say, is that it's amazing how much faster people get over the duration of a GT academy time trial... Frustratingly so [/EDIT]

The exit of the corner is more important than the entry, chances are your braking later but geting a worse run out of the corner, therefore being slower, i see what you mean, but like Dessy said, its quite a basic track and is only a 1'30 lap (will be) so relitively short compared to last 2 years. Predicting a 30.5 myself if the likes of takeuchi, Dan holland and the french brothers want to fight it out all the way.
EDIT: Also must add, with them adding the cones in certain corners it eliminates more room for error with people cutting the corner and getting 3 wheels off the track to gain time, now all 4 wheels are on the track for nearly every corner.

 

[HKS racer]

I just hope they don't start finding a glitch

Well it's not a glitch but leading ghost in my country is gaining speed with two wheels on grass for about 150 / 200 meters, I don't think you can that in real life.

 

[DeejGT]

Wow some ridiculous times, after an hour I've got my time only on a 1.33.5 got a lot of time to find. Only had a steering wheel for a couple of days so I'll let myself off haha! A 31 dead has been set now though :/

 

[GTPzaq5]

This is still for the countrys who were chosen to participate ...

Its so unfair to choose countrys like that and leave some behind AGAIN-.-

Im finnish and im annoyed to see countries as Luxemburg which is 35th in the trophy ranking be allowed to participate and not me.

If GT Academy would come back again they should bring in some real racing countrys.

I have completed the events lol, then what. It doesnt matter since I cant even get the chance to get to the academy...

If "Europe" is in the contest it should be ALL in Europe ...

This is stupid, GTA is unfair

 

[My3id_Dave]

If they ever let Finland compete, the rest of us are all doomed. Seriously though it is stupid. I know so many incredibly quick sim racers from Finland, it's a shame they are excluded, even if it's good for the rest of us.

Anyway, happy the competition is properly underway again this year, drove a couple of hours yesterday. I don't think I will use active steering, I didn't use it last year and iirc the top global time was without it anyway. I'll prolly fall down the leaderboard over the next few days while studying gets in the way. My prediction for the top time in 2 weeks, 1:30.5. Any faster then that will not be cool!

 

[Ibonibo]

Its so unfair to choose countrys like that and leave some behind AGAIN-.-

Im finnish and im annoyed to see countries as Luxemburg

First Luxemburg has roughly 1/2 million of inhabitants, take the average and we are 18th ...
We were excluded too from all other comps, I alone had 15 friends and myself write emails to SCEE. This time we are in. I doubt it has to do with our emails, though you never know, so write an email

 

[Captain Roh]

I'm currently 91st on the leaderboard and theres a bit of time to be had still.. All I need do is hook up that perfect lap :/ Sounds easy.

I won't be using active steering though, and it annoys me that the fastest guys out there feel the need to take the advantage it provides. It should be a completely level playing field end of.

 

[Rutter200_VR46]

I'm currently 91st on the leaderboard and theres a bit of time to be had still.. All I need do is hook up that perfect lap :/ Sounds easy.

I won't be using active steering though, and it annoys me that the fastest guys out there feel the need to take the advantage it provides. It should be a completely level playing field end of.

It is a completely level playing field... Everyone can use it. If there is an advantage to be ha people will use it. There will obviously be guys that will be able to set fast times without like ti-tech for e.g.

The guys at the top off the boards that use it would still be up there even if they didn't imo.

 

[Captain Roh]

It is a completely level playing field... Everyone can use it. If there is an advantage to be ha people will use it. There will obviously be guys that will be able to set fast times without like ti-tech for e.g.

The guys at the top off the boards that use it would still be up there even if they didn't imo.

Of course they would, but at least everyone below them wouldn't feel like they HAD to use active steering to gain something. It just takes away from all the effort people have put in to be fast without AIDS.

Its just my opinion but PD should of made it mandatory or illegal like SRF. That would of been level. Its like having a race down a tube slide,. you'll go faster if you grease up with monkey turd sure but I dont want to do it. And I shouldn't have to. ??

 

[Rutter200_VR46]

Of course they would, but at least everyone below them wouldn't feel like they HAD to use active steering to gain something. It just takes away from all the effort people have put in to be fast without AIDS.

Its just my opinion but PD should of made it mandatory or illegal like SRF. That would of been level. Its like having a race down a tube slide,. you'll go faster if you grease up with monkey turd sure but I dont want to do it. And I shouldn't have to. ??

Will that monkey turd be available to everyone? lol Yea I know what your saying and I agree it probably should have been banned as it won't be allowed at the finals. It was the same story last year.

 

[JerseyDriverSS]

Yea I know what your saying and I agree it probably should have been banned as it won't be allowed at the finals. It was the same story last year.

There only hurting themselves when it come to finals.

 

[PaulJ_85]

The exit of the corner is more important than the entry, chances are your braking later but geting a worse run out of the corner, therefore being slower, i see what you mean, but like Dessy said, its quite a basic track and is only a 1'30 lap (will be) so relitively short compared to last 2 years. Predicting a 30.5 myself if the likes of takeuchi, Dan holland and the french brothers want to fight it out all the way.
EDIT: Also must add, with them adding the cones in certain corners it eliminates more room for error with people cutting the corner and getting 3 wheels off the track to gain time, now all 4 wheels are on the track for nearly every corner.

I think you may be right. After playing a bit more last night, a lot of what 'seems' to be gain able, often forfeits time in other places.

I find it interesting too, watching different replays / ghosts, the different driving styles going on. Some of the top runners are smooth and steady and some are almost drifting / trail braking everywhere.

 

[Rutter200_VR46]

There only hurting themselves when it come to finals.

Not really. Mostly all guys in UK/IRE used AS in qualification last year and when it come to the finals there were blisteringly quick. I've raced with mostly them all on GT5 at some stage and they all super quick. Just using twissy as an example. He is a D1 gold driver so AS or not he is gonna be quick.

 

[Marco 3101]

Not really. Mostly all guys in UK/IRE used AS in qualification last year and when it come to the finals there were blisteringly quick. I've raced with mostly them all on GT5 at some stage and they all super quick. Just using twissy as an example. He is a D1 gold driver so AS or not he is gonna be quick.

With respect i think you're missing the point. With this system and this time trial, half a tenth can separate place 16 and 25.

So yeah, a fast driver will be fast using AS or not, but if he can be 1 tenth faster using AS, then this advantage is so huge, given that half a tenth can make or break you, that you cant ignore it and just hope for the best. So, in the end, nearly everyone will use it, even if they prefer driving cars more than spaceships.

 

[Tidgney]

With respect i think you're missing the point. With this system and this time trial, half a tenth can separate place 16 and 25.

So yeah, a fast driver will be fast using AS or not, but if he can be 1 tenth faster using AS, then this advantage is so huge, given that half a tenth can make or break you, that you cant ignore it and just hope for the best. So, in the end, nearly everyone will use it, even if they prefer driving cars more than spaceships.

I think your missing rutters point though, if AS was banned you would still be in the same position because that driver would still be ahead. I dislike AS didn't use it last year and probably won't this year as I just can't drive the way I like, but I know the fast guys would still be there anyway no matter the outcome.

 

[Rutter200_VR46]

With respect i think you're missing the point. With this system and this time trial, half a tenth can separate place 16 and 25.

So yeah, a fast driver will be fast using AS or not, but if he can be 1 tenth faster using AS, then this advantage is so huge, given that half a tenth can make or break you, that you cant ignore it and just hope for the best. So, in the end, nearly everyone will use it, even if they prefer driving cars more than spaceships.

Everyone has the option to use it so what's the problem? If you needed half a tenth to get in the finals why wouldn't someone use it to gain that extra time?

 

[Marco 3101]

Everyone has the option to use it so what's the problem? If you needed half a tenth to get in the finals why wouldn't someone use it to gain that extra time?

He would, 100%, so in the end we are all (those who want to compete at their best in order to advance) forced to use it.

 

[Adam41]

Everyone has the option to use it so what's the problem?

I think they're on about some people not adapting to AS or not feeling its benefit as much as some of the other drivers. In this case it is an advantage.

 

[Marco 3101]

I think they're on about some people not adapting to AS or not feeling its benefit as much as some of the other drivers. In this case it is an advantage.

I see your point but i myself wasn't refering to that. I was just explaining how AS becomes a necessity despite being something non-realistic (and a huge turn-off for me at least) and non-applicable in the finals.

 

[Lidyana]

This is getting so tight. Yesterday I was thinking maybe 31.7 would have been enough to make the top 16 in most regions. Now I have no idea at all.

 

[markyboy92]

Samurai is just such an alien. lol and with a pad as well... can't wait to get home from work and crack on again it's so addictive!!

 

[mini1275]

13th (currently) in the UK on a 1:31.890. I'm quite pleased with that although I think there's still a bit more time left.

It was quite a messy lap.

I'm really enjoying the combo. It's good to have another track to drive around.

 

[Captain Roh]

13th (currently) in the UK on a 1:31.890. I'm quite pleased with that although I think there's still a bit more time left.

It was quite a messy lap.

I'm really enjoying the combo. It's good to have another track to drive around.

Nice! I have to agree too, such a breath of fresh air having a new track. Motegi is a personal fave of mine and the layout including those cones is so challenging! Love it... Just wish we could race it already

Just bested my own time to a 1:32.369

Not sure I can go faster but the breakdown gives me hope...

Sector One +0.348
Sector Two +0.401
Sector Three +0.430

Almost seems doable. Though it is curious as to why all three sectors are pretty much .4 down.. hmm. Thats either a funny coincidence, something I'm doing wrong fundamentaly (ie the difference between a Div1 Gold and Div2 Bronze) or at least in part due to steering assist?

Thoughts appreciated, more effort necessary!

 

[Spurgy 777]

How do you know the sector break down? Looks like it could be useful.

 

[Matty]

Probably from saving his best lap and comparing it too the worlds best

 

[Captain Roh]

How do you know the sector break down? Looks like it could be useful.

Probably from saving his best lap and comparing it too the worlds best

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