GT Photomode 2.0 Competition - Week 94- CLOSED

tupacrulez
well I'm very sorry to have offended you all with my terribly narrowminded explanation, but that is what i see winning the 2.0 comps. maybe everyone has just found a good formula, and maybe 80Y is breaking ground, but I really haven't seen something like his shot win a comp since I've been here (not long, bit still).

Maybe you should all check your own selves, and what or who you vote for, before calling me or Skyline narrowminded? Last I checked, you guys make more shots than me, you enter more competitions than me, and you guys swing the trends of what is used more than me. If i am to be blamed for my definition of a good 2.0 shot, then you (the very guys I look up to when it comes to photomode) are to be blamed for making it that way.

I also hope you will all notice that i and skyline both liked 80Y's shot. I very much like it. it's a nice refresh from the norm in the 2.0 that I've seen around here.( IE: good colour, motion blur, sharp car, car cleaned, reflections added), but I simply do not think that it would win if we weren't having this conversation. it would be written off as "too blurry" or "not composed right" or some such friggin thing, when it really IS a quality shot.
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You didn’t offend me; neither do I intend to offend you or anyone, rather just make you look through another prisma.

First thing first, there is no one to blame. We cannot blame someone, for making good looking pictures. Look at Bram for example. His pictures are not realistic at all, the cars look cartoonish and those backgrounds are widely blurred, but I love his entries, because, for me, they look good, they go with me and my style too, and has opposed, there are people who don’t like that cartoonish style. On the contrary, NTX produce one of the most realistic shots IMO, the car gains form, gains shape, but, for me it doesn’t stand out (sometimes), but perhaps, both are amazing shots if putted side by side.
Another example, you and Skyline like 80Y shot. I don’t like it so much, it is not my style, but I am not saying, hey, you will not win, before the poll even takes place.

Also, you don’t have to follow those tendencies. None make you follow them. You are at your own risk. The tips we or I gave and the criticize I (sometimes) make, are because I see that you are adventuring in those lands, so those tips are for you to do it better, because maybe I passed through that part or stage and knew how to resort it.

But when you take PS , it doesn’t mean you have to do those super uber clean shots with xk things. Look at Magburner shots for example, and recalling the latest update he did in his gallery. Those are one of the best shots I’ve seen and there and were only used minor adjustments. The same goes to TVR_FF, Bright and contrast adjustments and he pulls out a great shot. He should enter competitions. With his latest’s updates, I am sure he could win.

Also, I would like you to have a look at my first 2.0 winning
I was up against amazing entries, with my crap, invented at pressure entry, and I manage to win, and it is not even those amazing 2.0 shots (and not to say that the subject is centered on the image). Maybe I was artistic/creative enought to captive the public...maybe 80Y will captive some votes, maybe not, maybe he will win, who knows?
 
We can hope so.

To be fair, I did say that unfortunately I didn't think it could win because of the prejudice. I really would love it if every week was something new and interesting, with the most abstract and artistic shots winning every week, but we know that will never happen. It would make my day if it won.

And your 2.0 shot really captured the background well. I'd have voted for it.
 
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gosh guys, I don't think I expect to win in my first entry, especially when I don't have enough PS skill to remove the watermark (I am trying right now though). I'd be over the moon if I had even one vote as it meant that someone thought mine was better than anyone else's -and let's be honest - it's unlikely.
My style is more of a new age radical style than the no-less-striking uber clean look. I know now not to enter this particular style of shot into a 2.0 comp - I'll try my hand at the clean look using those tutorials that you guys kindly gave me.

thanks for all the little snippets of compliments throughout all your arguments
 
There really aren't too many arguments around here. Don't think that this goes on all the time 80y. Only when the subject of art and how it's perceived comes about. :)
 
Actually, I'd wait before you say that you wouldn't enter it in 2.0. If it wins, that might open the door to the abstract art.

If it didn't have hue/saturation work done, I'd suggest entering it in an applicable CCCL/PMC week.

It's a grey area that your shot is in. That's what sparked the controversy. It's something that isn't usually entered in, well, anything. Go read the CCCL 69 topic and you'll see that I really advocate original shots.

For future edits, try taking a second shot that goes over the area of the watermark. That way you can cut and paste the same texture onto itself, but without the copyright on it.

As an apology, I'd be honored if you would select the theme for the PMC Week 159. Just PM me what you want.
 
wow thanks!! could you direct me to the previous PMC comps, just so I can get an idea of what's been done and what style of things are done?
 
OK.....I have removed the watermark---but I think you guy's could tell that it sticks out pretty bad.

don't worry though...as I said, I'm not here for a win right now
 
I like it, but there's a little problem in the rear of the car.

Again, I love the original style of it. It's kind of a meld between your style and Bram's

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LdS: WOW i came off as sarcastic there! Forgive me, finals are messing with my head...

Personally, I'd have a very hard time right now choosing between Bram and 80Y. both have a strange sense of awesome to me, for opposite reasons.

I wasn't dissing the results of the 2.0 comps, I was saying that from my experience here,an artistic shot like 80Y's isn't "traditionally" preferred. Also, I value everyone's criticism to my limited and right now stagnant work. It all helps. It's just a shame i can't build on that criticism since i suck royal donkey arse at PS of any kind.

80Y: actually, we all get along here very well. I just tend to be a firestarter. And DON'T stop and change your style. keep pluggin with what you do best. You may not win a crapton of competitions at first, but people WILL take notice if it's a good enough shot that catches their eye. you have a rather unique style, if all of your shots are as off the wall as that, and being different is what sets you apart from the competition. I'd love to see more of your work.
 
wow thanks..I got a few more I was playing with but I thought the one you see was the most striking (maybe not the absolute best thing at this point) but I pm'd one to you.

As I said before, please ignore the shoddy watermark editing:crazy:

....and yes, from seeing previous forums, your friendliness rep is still intact - I felt a little guilty when the whole thing sparked up cause I know you guys aren't like that
 
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we do get along, looking back at my post, i actually feel bad for writing those down :( then again i have to make clear that i was Not angry at all. my apology to skyline and tupac. i have to say 80Y reminds me of atlop a lil bit.
 
tupacrulez
well I'm very sorry to have offended you all with my terribly narrowminded explanation, but that is what i see winning the 2.0 comps. maybe everyone has just found a good formula, and maybe 80Y is breaking ground, but I really haven't seen something like his shot win a comp since I've been here (not long, bit still).

Maybe you should all check your own selves, and what or who you vote for, before calling me or Skyline narrowminded? Last I checked, you guys make more shots than me, you enter more competitions than me, and you guys swing the trends of what is used more than me. If i am to be blamed for my definition of a good 2.0 shot, then you (the very guys I look up to when it comes to photomode) are to be blamed for making it that way.

I also hope you will all notice that i and skyline both liked 80Y's shot. I very much like it. it's a nice refresh from the norm in the 2.0 that I've seen around here.( IE: good colour, motion blur, sharp car, car cleaned, reflections added), but I simply do not think that it would win if we weren't having this conversation. it would be written off as "too blurry" or "not composed right" or some such friggin thing, when it really IS a quality shot.
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I think we should all calm down a bit. (Is there even still a Moderator visiting the Photomode boards to calm us down?)

Here are the facts:

Each member on these boards has the right to enter an image of their choice, and up to their capabilities. However, if you are entering an image, you have to bear in mind what kind of competition you are entering. This is the 2.0 competition, known for the wide range of tools available to use. Therefore, voters will also expect you to use these tools, or a certain amount of these tools, to your entry.

80Y's entry is a pure PMC based entry. As he said: He hasn't got any experience with Photoshop, and therefore these tools are still unknown to him. Now, I'm not criticizing anybody, but in the 2.0 competition, people do often expect to see more done to the image than just colours. My personal opinion on his entry is that the colours are too dramatic, a little overboard, and the camera is on a too wide-angled frame so that the whole car is blurred away by the motion blur. I'm not putting him off at all. Because here's a fact or two for y'all:

Whether you think or not think how narrowminded any member is, it all comes down to the fact that we all started from nowhere. Granted, some have had experience with photo-manipulating software before starting out with GT4, but at least 75% of the memers who are still active, started out from nothing, including me. I started from nowhere, working my way up from GIMP to Photoshop, from blur cleaning to smudge cleaning. After the three years that I've been active in the Photomode section, I do know what to expect, how to criticize and what fits or not. I'm not saying 80Y should not have entered, but I do think that his shot would have made more chance in the PMC competitions.

Everybody has their own style, but in the end, the winners are always those who make use of the tools in the more professional or effective way.
 
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i do hope for more entries. speaking of which, i might change mine tomorrow. i have another pic that i like more. and the car's yellow :D

bram: u just reminded me of the time we came head to head in the photomode tournament, back when i was using gimp. i'll never forget that 👍
 
I still use gimp.:D But my entry this week is my first time using ps. I used my brother's photoshop elements for the blur only, so its pretty new to me. When I started here I had absolutely no previous photo editing skills. I'm still nowhere near the level of winning a 2.0 comp, but I think I have improved a lot in the little time I've been here. So you guys have tought me a lot. But if the first time I entered, someone told me my shot sucked, I probably would have left and wouldn't be here right now. Now I have a little better eye and know it sucked. But I like 80Y's entry. It opens up a whole new abstract style. This was atlop's entry the week of my first win in the un-edited comp.
un-edited week 36 It was pretty abstract and it got a couple of votes.
 
David48
I still use gimp.:D But my entry this week is my first time using ps. I used my brother's photoshop elements for the blur only, so its pretty new to me. When I started here I had absolutely no previous photo editing skills. I'm still nowhere near the level of winning a 2.0 comp, but I think I have improved a lot in the little time I've been here. So you guys have tought me a lot. But if the first time I entered, someone told me my shot sucked, I probably would have left and wouldn't be here right now. Now I have a little better eye and know it sucked. But I like 80Y's entry. It opens up a whole new abstract style. This was atlop's entry the week of my first win in the un-edited comp.
un-edited week 36 It was pretty abstract and it got a couple of votes.
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David, you are a perfect example of where the most of us have come from, and how we are evolving throughout the months or years. Everything takes time, practise makes perfect eh? Also, you are absolutely right about not putting 80Y off now, something that I want to make clear that I've never intended to do. But I do think that a first shot is pretty tricky to enter in such a high level competition as this one :)

On that, you are indeed showing sign of some good progress David! 👍
 
Thanks!:D I know that your "Pink The Floyd" Gimp tutorials helped me a lot in my early days.
 
I personally suck with tutorials. I don't know wtf half of what is mentioned is, or how to do the simplest of things.

I just screw around until i find something that looks half decent.
 
When I started a year ago, I had absolutely no photoshop skills. ZERO. I didnt have gimp either. So having the veterans around helped a ton, as did PS. :lol:
To the newcomers and those who think they are less skilled: Just keep at it! And experiment and learn from the pros.

I still have to get my entry in...
 
Bram Turismo
I was waiting for you to say that :P
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:lol: why's that? Wanna see what awesomeness I can pull out? :lol: j/k

LdS
Me too. The worst is, I don't know what to do with my image.
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I really don't either. i have hit a wall. i have scrapped 3 entries.


I am going to leave this open until Sat. or Sun. If that's ok with you all.
Also, on a side note, this thread has seen almost 900 views. The most in a long long time. Interest in thread or the argument that occured?
 
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no 80y, it's not you at all. btw, great entry swiss!! now i really think i should change mine, got my pc back today, and after a 78 dollar wireless adapter, i can finally connect online again. at the comfort of my own home! problem is, my pc doesn't have ps anymore. instead it has the corel paintshop pro photo x2. which i don't know how to use at all.
 
yea..that's a great entry swiss.....I was toying with the idea of Hong Kong but I don't think I would of pulled off making all the buildings look realistic. Practise I s'spose. One thing I would like your guys hlp with is how you get such a wide focus point?...When I don't focus, it's slighlty out of focus and when I do, ony part of the car is.
Any help with that would be great
 
well an easy way is to adjust your aperture wide open, that way the focal blur is minimized
and everything will turn out sharp. if you wanna use camera 1, which is the default number when taking shots from a replay, dont focus right away, instead press the x (shutter) and then go back to the photo menu and then focus. another way is playing with the shutter speeds, and then maybe just workout the blurs in photoshop :D max shutter speed and aperture = sharp photo. another way is, and this i do a lot, while watching the replay, zoom in on the car by pressing triangle and then press select or whatever it is that activates the photomode.
 
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