HKS racer
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458 GT3 for BOP reasons have a small splitter compared to Audi so it's regulation's fault. For safety reason is better to keep a good amount of downforce on the front and eventually work with ballast instead.
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- Thread starter Speedster502
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- K-Town
- Tintorera
It seems quite clear from the video and pictures that there where a large number of spectators sitting between the two fences. You can see som campers chairs laying around the car as well. The car has definitely landed in the gap between the two fences.
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HKS racer
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Investigation?
Way too much downforce on the rear end of the car.
That huge rear wing
and the front nose design unable to produce enough downforce even with that huge splitter and flaps.
It's like the Mercedes CLK LM crash. Same issues.
They knew this car was doing wheelies since 2013.
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- Western Sydney
- mustafur
Possibly but who knows without proper information.
And it's near on offensive to say such a thing when there is no real evidence on what happened fully, the car is known to lift at that point as well.
As a racer he should know better.
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- skygrasper_550--
Just watched the video. "Whoa" was the first word that came out of my mouth. It's just like the incident with the Mercedes CLR, the front end of the GT-R just flew up. That is one horrendous crash.
And damn, the crash had a confirmed fatality. I'm just speechless right now, poor guy.
And damn, the crash had a confirmed fatality. I'm just speechless right now, poor guy.
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- Furinkazen_54
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- skygrasper_550--
The reason why it's a fairly unknown science is because it's nature. And nature can be unpredictable at times.
The only thing we can hope for is that Nissan would release some photos and footage of the incident from other angles (especially onboard footage) so that other people would have a better understanding of the crash.
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I don't fancy seeing someone killed from different angles thanks.
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I'm fairly sure he meant for Nissan to release it to the investigator's,
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- ARC_rono_thomas
After watching the video I think two things seem clear to me that a) the car should not have been able to do that - as mentioned by @=drifting24/7= above, until all facts are collected and analysed attributing blame is not going to help, b) spectators should not be so close to a "dangerzone" I realise hindsight is what usually makes things safer for the future but it seems obvious after seeing how close track and spectators are that this was something that was more likely than less to happen - or at least the potential for this to happen seems extremely high.
Condolences to all involved.
Condolences to all involved.
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- skygrasper_550--
I meant how the car's front end ended up flying in the air. Not how the car hit the spectator who just passed away. The car flying into the air is enough, no one needs to see the latter, gruesome bit except for the investigators.
Yes, exactly. Thank you.
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- catamount39
Anyone who says this is the end of GT3 on the Ring' is smoking some bad weed.
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Nissan stated that they will help to investigate the accident.
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- CARBOYXJR
Respected sports car journalists. It's not a nice thing to hear, but there's a big element of truth in it. We've had years and years of close calls with accidents, but we are reaching a point where the cars are out-growing the track.
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- skygrasper_550--
it's only a possibility. A bit far-fetched, yeah, but still a possibility. Formula 1 used to hold races around the Nordschleife part of the 'Ring, but because of repeated accidents and fatalities, they no longer hold races there. I don't see any reason how GT3 can be an exception to those circumstances.
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In simple terms a race drivers job is to get around the track as fast as possible without crashing, the only difference between taking a corner too fast and crashing, and taking a crest too fast and crashing, is usually the velocity of the car when it hits something... But in either case the driver failed to negotiate the course at a suitable speed. Nothing against Jann, but if he'd have taken a flat bend too fast and had an accident that resulted in a spectators death, would we look at it the same way?
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- FMecha_EXE
For some reason I very usually cannot do the Nurburgring 24 Minutes race in GT6 without flipping over in Flugplatz. Get well, Jann. 
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- mustafur
Who knows, Webber wasn't blamed for his flip at Lemans, even though before hand they actually where lifting knowing it was unstable.
We also don't know if Wind was involved, infact we know basically nothing.
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- ARC_rono_thomas
Crashing a car and fatalities/injuries to spectators are separate responsibilities - Jann is responsible for the car and the track event organisers are responsible for health and safety of its patrons.
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- skygrasper_550--
How can you be sure that the "failed to negotiate the course at a suitable"? If the driver did (in this case, Jann), How would you know? You weren't in the car when the blowover happened.
No one is exactly sure what happened, and how or why the blowover happened. Making assumptions and putting blame on people as this point is just ludicrous.
