GT Sport vs Other Games: Comparison Video Thread

[ImaRobot]

While this does look very good, what relevance is it supposed to be showing? The RSR is on a different level to the RS that's being discussed.

What Porsche would be more fitting?

 

[FPV MIC]

What Porsche would be more fitting?

And with no context, what was it comparing?

 

[qwbufp]

 

[danh25]

GTsport (beta) is on another level

 

[Greatbee]

I can clearly se, that GT is the real deal!

 

[TheNuvolari]

GTsport (beta) is on another level

Not the same time of day. :\

 

[danh25]

Not the same time of day. :\

The time does not change the texure, the car model and the track edge, but only the saturation of the colors :\

PS:the time is also right because in both the track is covered with clouds

 

[Scaff]

The time does not change the texure, the car model and the track edge, but only the saturation of the colors :\

Time of day and lighting changes can have a massive affect on how textures are seen, shadows, lighting intensity, contrast as well as the saturation.

A reason exists that photographers like to shoot at certain times of day and certain conditions and not others.

For it to be a far comparison of the visuals it would need to be as close to the same time of day, weather and even time of year; however at the very least roughly the same time of day should be used.

 

[SDSPOWER01]

The time does not change the texure, the car model and the track edge, but only the saturation of the colors :\

PS:the time is also right because in both the track is covered with clouds

It is not set at the same time you can tell by the saturation color and the position of the sun. One is set in almost sunset (GT Sport) and one in noon or morning(Forza 7).
You can tell because in the demo of Forza there was a stage in the nurburgring that showed of sunset after a downfall of rain and it looked if not much more dynamic than what GTS is showing.
The lighting are almost in the same level (my personal preference goes to GT Sport).
And do not let me get started on the sound..

 

[ImaRobot]

Both games look great in those videos, but similar times of day would make all the difference. Replay angles in GTS are top notch, I wish Forza would work on theirs a little bit. GTS seems to be taking in that "cartoon" saturation that everyone would try to bring T10 down for, not that I have an issue with it. Seems to add more flare.

 

[danh25]

Time of day and lighting changes can have a massive affect on how textures are seen, shadows, lighting intensity, contrast as well as the saturation.

A reason exists that photographers like to shoot at certain times of day and certain conditions and not others.

For it to be a far comparison of the visuals it would need to be as close to the same time of day, weather and even time of year; however at the very least roughly the same time of day should be used.

I agree but in the video you see many things that on F7 are very balnde compared to GTsport beta, regardless of the time when both games are set.

 

[zzz_pt]

@danh25

top row - middle: Forza 7
center row - left: GTS

It's obvious that the golden hour will produce better visuals. That's why it's called golden hour or magic hour.

 

[ImaRobot]

I agree but in the video you see many things that on F7 are very balnde compared to GTsport beta, regardless of the time when both games are set.

For example?

 

[marcvic]

Seems like the guidelines for a fair comparison keep getting adjusted. I think at this point we can just take all these videos as casual observation, without getting into the whole "fairness" debate.

There was just an article released on GTP that compares a full-fledged title to a beta build with differing times of day.

 

[ImaRobot]

Seems like the guidelines for a fair comparison keep getting adjusted. I think at this point we can just take all these videos as casual observation, without getting into the whole "fairness" debate.

There was just an article released on GTP that compares a full-fledged title to a beta build with differing times of day.

Asking for it to be as similar as possible is "changing" the guidelines? That has been the unspoken word for some time now, so I'm not so sure I agree. However, no one was outright disregarding the comparison, just stating how TOD can really make one stand out compared to the other.

 

[danh25]

@danh25

top row - middle: Forza 7
center row - left: GTS

It's obvious that the golden hour will produce better visuals. That's why it's called golden hour or magic hour.

I've talked about something else, I'm not talking about how the game looks at different times, I also know that makes the difference in the impact level, but already from what I've listed, there are differences that are outside the setting of the time

For example?

More bare track edge, poor tree construction, much less finished car model than GTsport, bland grassy texure at different points on the track.

 

[ImaRobot]

More bare track edge, poor tree construction, much less finished car model than GTsport, bland grassy texure at different points on the track.

Bare track edge? They're both rather bare.. Is something wrong in one, because I'm having a hard time understanding how it could have been better, or how one is better than the other. What I notice about the grass is that GTS has a lot more contrast, making it look more flush and forest-green in hue.

Much less finished car model? What exactly do you mean? GTS's is completely fictional so if you're comparing them expecting them to be like for like, you should'nt be. If not, can you explain what that means?

As for the grassy texture, how can you even see it when the cars are zooming by? Everything is just blurred. Having played the game, there are some textures that are lacking, but the comparison you're making here is practically not visible in this video.

 

[marcvic]

Asking for it to be as similar as possible is "changing" the guidelines? That has been the unspoken word for some time now, so I'm not so sure I agree. However, no one was outright disregarding the comparison, just stating how TOD can really make one stand out compared to the other.

Fairness came into question.

 

[ImaRobot]

Fairness came into question.

Yes, and asking for it to be as similar as possible, for fairness, is changing the guidelines? This is nothing new.

 

[marcvic]

Yes, and asking for it to be as similar as possible, for fairness, is changing the guidelines? This is nothing new.

Yeah... especially when there is an article comparing GTS beta to PC2 release spec. At this point in time, we only have pre-release footage for both games, so it's not like anyone can just get same track/TOD/car/season easily right now, so bringing fairness up seems moot.

 

[cutmeamango]

Yeah... especially when there is an article comparing GTS beta to PC2 release spec. At this point in time, we only have pre-release footage for both games, so it's not like anyone can just get same track/TOD/car/season easily right now, so bringing fairness up seems moot.

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[ImaRobot]

Yeah... especially when there is an article comparing GTS beta to PC2 release spec. At this point in time, we only have pre-release footage for both games, so it's not like anyone can just get same track/TOD/car/season easily right now, so bringing fairness up seems moot.

I'd like to imagine that there is firmer "rules" set in place with actual versus threads, where heated debates happen far more often than any other thread. Compared to a thread made specifically for one track to show how two games handle it. While debate is open to any thread, it's this one where a clearer line should be drawn in comparison as this is the one that tends to get more wild.

And what exactly is the issue with showing the beta? If you can't make the selection in GTS because it isn't there yet, make it in the other game to match it, at least.

 

[Sojiira]

It is not set at the same time you can tell by the saturation color and the position of the sun. One is set in almost sunset (GT Sport) and one in noon or morning(Forza 7).
You can tell because in the demo of Forza there was a stage in the nurburgring that showed of sunset after a downfall of rain and it looked if not much more dynamic than what GTS is showing.
The lighting are almost in the same level (my personal preference goes to GT Sport).
And do not let me get started on the sound..

Its hard to tell the ToD in Forza, One side of the trees should be hit by light and the other in shadow but you cant really tell. There is barely any lighting information on them. Only by the shadow on the ground can you tell. I'd guess its closer to evening than noon.

 

[Scaff]

Lets keep it to video comparisons and discussions about those videos and the comparison.

If its not a video comparison then this is the thread you want:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/fm7-vs-pcars-2-vs-gt-sport.357007/

 

[Lord Protector]

lol at Forza's lighting

 

[doblocruiser]

I've seen some great pictures from the Forza community already but I can't happen to notice that graphicalwise they have toned it (FM7) down a notch or 2. There are some comparision of FM4 versus FM7 and all I can say that FM4 was a very pretty game. GT Sport looks to be the winner in terms of graphics and lighting but the gameplay elements need convincing. We'll over the coming months how it will develop.

 

[ImaRobot]

lol at Forza's lighting

Forza's lighting is actually quite great when you're not blowing a photos resolution out of proportion, and are actually playing the game. I'm guessing you've never seen it anywhere outside of horribly compressed youtube videos. Try actually adding to the discussion next time, or posting something worthwhile at least.

I recommend you look at the Forza Photo community as it's producing shots just as great as GTS can produce as well.

I've seen some great pictures from the Forza community already but I can't happen to notice that graphicalwise they have toned it (FM7) down a notch or 2. There are some comparision of FM4 versus FM7 and all I can say that FM4 was a very pretty game. GT Sport looks to be the winner in terms of graphics and lighting but the gameplay elements need convincing. We'll over the coming months how it will develop.

I feel that it has been toned down too, and likely all the nitty-gritty details will be for the Xbox One X version. Paint seems less detailed this time around, but things within the atmosphere of the track have been toned up. It's a sort of balance, but you do recognize some things to be off every now and then.

 

[Lord Protector]

Forza's lighting is actually quite great when you're not blowing a photos resolution out of proportion, and are actually playing the game. I'm guessing you've never seen it anywhere outside of horribly compressed youtube videos. Try actually adding to the discussion next time, or posting something worthwhile at least.

I recommend you look at the Forza Photo community as it's producing shots just as great as GTS can produce as well.
I feel that it has been toned down too, and likely all the nitty-gritty details will be for the Xbox One X version. Paint seems less detailed this time around, but things within the atmosphere of the track have been toned up. It's a sort of balance, but you do recognize some things to be off every now and then.

Yeah well this will probably come as a surprise but I don't race photos. I race cars and I take no prisoners GTS is a generation ahead in both, real-time lighting and photos too.

 

[ImaRobot]

Yeah well this will probably come as a surprise but I don't race photos. I race cars and I take no prisoners GTS is a generation ahead in both, real-time lighting and photos too.

Yet you just used this photo of a blown up, out of proportion track/car(which in process, messed up the resolution and quality of the photo) to make a judgement on a game. It's odd(not really) that you wont use the same process and look at an actual HD photo of the game and make a similar or assessed judgement. GTS does have great lighting, you're right, yet no one is arguing that.

 

[gtracedriver1]

I am very happy regarding the track detail in GTS. Much better than Forza7 and Pcars2. Cars looks better too but I think GT6, GT5 premium are already very good and should be imported to GTS. For Tracks I guess they made the right choice not to copy/paste in GTS