GT4 WRS Week 33 : "All Japan GT Championship"
- Thread starter Tedehur
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- GTP_T13R
I'll take the Calsonic, thank you. Old time buddy of mine with it's secret much-lower-than-redline shifting point in GT3 👍 I don't care if a car is faster than another this week, still need to learn the track anyways, and luckily I did about 20 laps with a stock GT-R last night trying to get closer to 50% completion...
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- Southern Louisiana
- GTP_Kent
T13R
Glad to see I'm not the only one using the Calsonic. 👍
The rev range is awesome (early shifts
).The Blue color is my fav too.
Too bad I suck this week.
T3s: 1'21.? & 1'14.?
Oh well.
Also, only 50% T13R?
Gotta get on top of that man!
- 1,325
- Washington State
Manually switching gears just shy of the limit...which I think is right around 7K revs if I'm not mistaken.
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- GTP_T13R
I must say, that blue really does it for me as wellKentGlad to see I'm not the only one using the Calsonic. 👍
The rev range is awesome (early shifts
The Blue color is my fav too.
Too bad I suck this week.
T3s: 1'21.? & 1'14.?
Oh well.
Also, only 50% T13R?
Gotta get on top of that man!
And yea, still not at 50% completion on my first and only GT4 gamesave since I got the game back on release day 
I don't even have my S-license yet hehe. I promise to get crackin' on it Kent. 👍 It's also nice to see you racing, you know? Us "old-timers", you being even moreso than I, seem to have almost disappeared along with GT3. It took me some time to convince myself to come back for GT4 OLR. It would be cool to see all the people like IDAFC21, Zer0h, Sough, Max E., Mr. P, Lotus, MiH, CFM, RER, Boombexus, ODP ( sorry if I left anyone out ) come back for a race of "old-timers"💡 ...maybe that's just wishful thinking
On semi-unrelated news, I had a go at Mission 34 last night and finally beat it on the 5th try (I have a bad habit of going all out and messing up, instead of driving a little more conservative...) Passed under acceleration just before the finish line
Although I didn't submit a time for week 30 due to no clean laps, it really did help me alot. With a little more patience, Mission 34 would now be a breeze. This also goes to show that the WRS is really great for training drivers and making them better. 👍👍👍
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Well I see the cat's out of the bag now! Yes, the hiroto GT-R is the fastest car by far, and yes it does have a lower shift point like the Calsonic, and yes it still sounds cool! I 'm using 270 gearing, probably because I'm coming out of the corners slower than holl01.
holl01's AI setup and passing description is spot-on, (don't know how the hell he's getting a 34.7!) but you need to have the right AI combo to do it. Here's a good lineup:
1. Peugot 206 rally
2. S2000 LM
3. Mitsub CZ-3
4. Mazda 6 touring
5. Evo rally
I could never get a good AI combo with the Supra's. Always got the Stratos out front which killed T1 by a second on the first lap.
Ran some laps last night, and got a good feel for the combo. Absolutely smashed my target time, so am setting my sites on the next goal. Will post up some splits later. 👍 I've got a dirty race to clean up.
Yes, the hiroto GT-R is the fastest car by far, and yes it does have a lower shift point like the Calsonic, and yes it still sounds cool! I 'm using 270 gearing, probably because I'm coming out of the corners slower than holl01. holl01's AI setup and passing description is spot-on, (don't know how the hell he's getting a 34.7!) but you need to have the right AI combo to do it. Here's a good lineup:
1. Peugot 206 rally
2. S2000 LM
3. Mitsub CZ-3
4. Mazda 6 touring
5. Evo rally
I could never get a good AI combo with the Supra's. Always got the Stratos out front which killed T1 by a second on the first lap.
Ran some laps last night, and got a good feel for the combo. Absolutely smashed my target time, so am setting my sites on the next goal. Will post up some splits later. 👍 I've got a dirty race to clean up.
Electric.......
(Banned)
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Xanavi Hiroto GT-R,The Third Ignition:
Lap One:
T1: 0'35.301 ++
T2: 0'58.944 ++
T3: 1'19.567 ++
Lap Two:
T1: 0'28.603 --
T2: 0'52.297 ++
T3: 1'12.798 ++
Overall time improved by .600. Not much,but improved.
My stats so far:
Race started: Nov 24,2005,at 5:37 A.M. (GMT+1)
Last try at the race:Nov 24,2005,at 6:55 P.M. (GMT+1)
Times tried: 4
Times restarted: 1
Sucessfully finished the race:3
Unclean races: 1
Laps total: 8
Car used: Nissan Xanavi Hiroto GT-R
Tyre selection: Racing Super Soft
AI difficulty: -10
AI cars:
Position Five: Mazda 6 Touring Car
Position Four: Mitsubishi CZ-3 Tarmac Rally Car
Position Three: Honda S2000 LM
Position Two: Mitsubishi Starion 4WD Rally car
Position One: Peugeot 206 Rally car
Lap One:
T1: 0'35.301 ++
T2: 0'58.944 ++
T3: 1'19.567 ++
Lap Two:
T1: 0'28.603 --
T2: 0'52.297 ++
T3: 1'12.798 ++
Overall time improved by .600. Not much,but improved.
My stats so far:
Race started: Nov 24,2005,at 5:37 A.M. (GMT+1)
Last try at the race:Nov 24,2005,at 6:55 P.M. (GMT+1)
Times tried: 4
Times restarted: 1
Sucessfully finished the race:3
Unclean races: 1
Laps total: 8
Car used: Nissan Xanavi Hiroto GT-R
Tyre selection: Racing Super Soft
AI difficulty: -10
AI cars:
Position Five: Mazda 6 Touring Car
Position Four: Mitsubishi CZ-3 Tarmac Rally Car
Position Three: Honda S2000 LM
Position Two: Mitsubishi Starion 4WD Rally car
Position One: Peugeot 206 Rally car
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- Carlisle,Cumbria,England!
- Ballstothewall1
Electric.......
Congratulations on the 'most useless information given in a post' award for the day!
Improvements for me!
L1
T1 35.440
T2 59.574
T3 1'20.213
L2
T1 29.147
T2 53.725
T3 1'14.756
And another 2 seconds off at the finish
Hiroto,270,RSS,AI-5,hards
Neil
- 900
- Devon
splits seen on a clean lap, no clean race as of yet.
In the esso (why you ask? because i can! Go PAL!)
t1 - 35.1
t2 - 58.6
t3 - 1.18.7
wonder how ill do in the Xanavi Hiroto, not raced it yet. Hardly given this combo a go, the AI
_ _ _ _ me off so much!! cant find a decent setting for them!!
In the esso (why you ask? because i can! Go PAL!)
t1 - 35.1
t2 - 58.6
t3 - 1.18.7
wonder how ill do in the Xanavi Hiroto, not raced it yet. Hardly given this combo a go, the AI
_ _ _ _ me off so much!! cant find a decent setting for them!!
Electric.......
(Banned)
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Randymcchickenf
Go with the hiroto,it seems like that car gets the easiest AI setup if you use -10 IMHO.
Especially if you get this line up:
(My way of dealing with AI-More useless information)
Position Five: Mazda 6 Touring Car-you can overtake it right from the start.(duh!)
Position Four: Mitsubishi CZ-3 Tarmac Rally Car-shift to third gear,stick inside,overtake on exit of the corner.
Position Three: Honda S2000 LM-if you manage to overtake the CZ-3 right on the exit of that right turn, on the straightaway you can slipsthream the S2k LM right away,if you do,wait until the very last moment(read:until you're almost going to hit it) to overtake.
Position Two: Mitsubishi Starion 4WD Rally car-if you done correctly with the S2k,
you will be ahead of this one by the end of the straight,and then shift to third gear again,stick inside for a second,and then full throttle away (full left steeering)into the second part of that double left turn,with some optional light taps on the brake to correct your racing line.
Position One: Peugeot 206 Rally car-if you done everything correctly,you will overtake the Pug on the exit of the double left.
This works for me.
So,should I put " The unoficial most useless informer of the WRS" in my sig,or not?
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Cleaned up the race. Latest splits.
Lap 1
T1: 34.940
T2: 58.466
T3: 1'18.919
Lap 2
T1: 28.024
T2: 51.570
T3: 1'11.921
Made some serious bobbles in this race.......lost .4 on the first, and .3 on the second.
Looks like we have some nice battles in all divisions this week. 👍
Will be interesting to see what iceman, small fryz, fasj, T13R, randy, and the other usual suspects come up with next.
Lap 1
T1: 34.940
T2: 58.466
T3: 1'18.919
Lap 2
T1: 28.024
T2: 51.570
T3: 1'11.921
Made some serious bobbles in this race.......lost .4 on the first, and .3 on the second.
Looks like we have some nice battles in all divisions this week. 👍
Will be interesting to see what iceman, small fryz, fasj, T13R, randy, and the other usual suspects come up with next.
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- Carlisle,Cumbria,England!
- Ballstothewall1
If the cap fits mate? LOLElectric.......So,should I put " The unoficial most useless informer of the WRS" in my sig,or not?
Was only messin, it's been lonely on here most of the day!
Anyway
497hp/990kg Hiroto, RSS,no aids,manual...AI-5 and RH
L1
T1 35.382
T2 59.380
T3 1'20.526
Fin -0.004
Might be reaching my 1st lap limit here!
L2
T1 28.650 👍
T2 52.739 👍 👍
T3 1'13.858 👍 👍
Fin -1.xxx
So in one day better than 6.8 seconds taken off my race time!
And now only 4 seconds and small change behind holl........not bad for me!
REALLY WELL CHUFFED!
Neil
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- Washington State
New splits using the old reliable Pennzoil Zexel GT-R:
(Am one <1> second faster then when using the Xanavi Hiroto for now)
AI/Tires: -10 & RSS
Lap 1:
T1: 36.968
T2: 1'01.402
T3: 1'22.519
Lap 2:
T1: 28.987
T2: 53.529
T3: 1'414.581
(Am one <1> second faster then when using the Xanavi Hiroto for now)
AI/Tires: -10 & RSS
Lap 1:
T1: 36.968
T2: 1'01.402
T3: 1'22.519
Lap 2:
T1: 28.987
T2: 53.529
T3: 1'414.581
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- Southern Louisiana
- GTP_Kent
Just ran a worthless lap that was more fun than any of my previous races. 
Mobile 1 / RSS/ +10
Dirty and slow.
But the picture of a Jaguar XJ220 LM being passed by a Mobile NSX was worth it.
The race was also a 150+ a-spec point addition to my arcade records.
But that's trivial in the WRS world.
I think I may go with the mobile 1 just to finally use the GT2 throw-back.
Only problem is that I've nearly got the perfect Calsonic set up... Just need to test it real quick and it may be a perfect clean setup.
Will be back after the test.
Till then,
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Mobile 1 / RSS/ +10
Dirty and slow.
But the picture of a Jaguar XJ220 LM being passed by a Mobile NSX was worth it.
The race was also a 150+ a-spec point addition to my arcade records.
But that's trivial in the WRS world.
I think I may go with the mobile 1 just to finally use the GT2 throw-back.
Only problem is that I've nearly got the perfect Calsonic set up... Just need to test it real quick and it may be a perfect clean setup.
Will be back after the test.
Till then,
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- Drew22
Finding the proper AI settings is harder than tuning. There might be two cars you want to slow down a bit so ya soften the tires,then of course there's one car that is now in your way cause he's too slow. And forget it when you change the difficulty to make your AI's a bit slower or faster and you get a whole new lineup in cars...aaahhhh!
Anyway I'm close to peaking.
35.789 / 59.886 / 1.20.663
29.601 / 54.049 / 1.14.891
T3 total 2.35.554
Anyway I'm close to peaking.
35.789 / 59.886 / 1.20.663
29.601 / 54.049 / 1.14.891
T3 total 2.35.554
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- Portland, OR
- GTP_KLR142
Well, I've decided on the Penzoil Zexel Skyline GTR '01, because it's fast, it has good brakes, and it's YELLOW! :-P So, I'm having my first REAL session tonight... Drove around in the race a few times, then hopped over to the single lap mode, toned down my lines, then went back to the races, played around with different AI settings for an hour or so, and settled on the one I had originally started with.
AI at -10, on RSS tires, me in my Zexel with 270 gearing, 990kg, 497hp:
Lap 1
T1: 35.794
T2: 59.909
T3: 1'20.561
Lap 2
T1: 28.182
T2: 52.288
T3: 1'12.864
And, FWIW, the '01 cars are faster around the track than their '00 counterparts because of downforce improvements, for those who were wondering... I might have a go in the Loctite NSX, but not until I've got something I'm ok with submitting in the GTR.
AI at -10, on RSS tires, me in my Zexel with 270 gearing, 990kg, 497hp:
Lap 1
T1: 35.794
T2: 59.909
T3: 1'20.561
Lap 2
T1: 28.182
T2: 52.288
T3: 1'12.864
And, FWIW, the '01 cars are faster around the track than their '00 counterparts because of downforce improvements, for those who were wondering... I might have a go in the Loctite NSX, but not until I've got something I'm ok with submitting in the GTR.
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- Portland, OR
- GTP_KLR142
What AI did you use?icemanshooter23
And, once again, just to make sure everyone knows, the '01 cars are faster than the '00 cars... Just like we learned originally when we took all the NSX's(except for the obviously faster '03 Takata) around Grand Valley. Hmm, I think that was a good week, no?
Oh, and HAPPY THANKSGIVING! I'm FULL, and I hope you are too. If not, eat something!
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- Portland, OR
- GTP_KLR142
ARGH!!!! I can't believe it. I haven't been really messing up turns at all tonight, well, not when I'm racing anyway, well, I am, but it feels like when I have a good race going, I'm able to at least get through it all decently fast. Now, when I was FLYING around the track, at the END of the SECOND lap, I somehow managed to F it up. Had to drop down into second gear. I probably lost 2-3 tenths on something that was going to be at least 5-6 tenths faster than my fastest clean race so far. And I have to go to bed now. DUMB!!! Blargh, so, this was with different AI settings again, I played with it some more, and I've managed a couple of 35.3xx at T1 with it.
AI at -2, on Hard tires, me still in my Pennzoil Zexel Skyline GTR '01 with 270km/h gearing.
Lap 1
T1: 35.366!
T2: 59.148!
T3: 1'19.341!
Lap 2(grrrrr)
T1: 28.427(.3ish down from previous best)
T2: 52.374(.1ish down)
T3: 1'12.763(.1ish faster...)
T4: FUBAR! WAAAAAH!
Cumilative T times
T1: 1'03.793
T2: 1'51.522
T3: 2'32.104 👍
T13R, I'm with you on the no S License yet... I only last week, or two weeks ago surpassed 50%. And I only have all silvers, and a couple golds, on the license tests. Also, some of the old-timers you speak of, don't like GT4 because of the way it drives, I think Max-E was one of those people. We were talking with a few of them old timers when we did our LAN get together a few weeks ago. A couple of them watched us race on a webcam! 👍
Kent, your T times don't suck, that's just the car, trust me...
Jeez, my post after my post after my post. How come no one's online?!
AI at -2, on Hard tires, me still in my Pennzoil Zexel Skyline GTR '01 with 270km/h gearing.
Lap 1
T1: 35.366!
T2: 59.148!
T3: 1'19.341!
Lap 2(grrrrr)
T1: 28.427(.3ish down from previous best)
T2: 52.374(.1ish down)
T3: 1'12.763(.1ish faster...)
T4: FUBAR! WAAAAAH!
Cumilative T times
T1: 1'03.793
T2: 1'51.522
T3: 2'32.104 👍
I shift when the light blinks, or when my ears here that it's almost to that point... That's why it's there, shift light! w00! lolfasj6418
T13R, I'm with you on the no S License yet... I only last week, or two weeks ago surpassed 50%. And I only have all silvers, and a couple golds, on the license tests. Also, some of the old-timers you speak of, don't like GT4 because of the way it drives, I think Max-E was one of those people. We were talking with a few of them old timers when we did our LAN get together a few weeks ago. A couple of them watched us race on a webcam! 👍
Kent, your T times don't suck, that's just the car, trust me...
Jeez, my post after my post after my post. How come no one's online?!
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- Camboriu - Braz
- FASJ6418
MinorShuntCleaned up the race. Latest splits.
Lap 1
T1: 34.940
T2: 58.466
T3: 1'18.919
Lap 2
T1: 28.024
T2: 51.570
T3: 1'11.921
Made some serious bobbles in this race.......lost .4 on the first, and .3 on the second.
Looks like we have some nice battles in all divisions this week. 👍
Will be interesting to see what iceman, small fryz, fasj, T13R, randy, and the other usual suspects come up with next.
i still didn´t put a lot of consecutive time on this, but i ran with the xanavi last night.
i´m glad i´ll be able to use a skyline this week, i love this car
had 2 clean races. still messing with the AI and missing the first corner.
splits are: (Xanavi Hiroto GT-R ´01)
T1 - 35´141
T2 - 59´123
T3 - 1´19´559
T1 - 28´261
T2 - 51´935
T3 - 1´12´157
in the other save i had a reverse, faster first lap but slower second. the T3 split was 1´19´170 and 1´12´407. (faster T3´s but slower finish)
so already i have a locked 1´19´1xx and a 1´12´1xx just need to work on a few places to get to my goal. the end of the lap i think its good 👍 i´ll come back with more later tonight.
- 8,191
- Southern Louisiana
- GTP_Kent
KLR142
I don't think that is what this is about...
My times stink because I haven't refined my laps yet.
Just a moment ago I went out in the Calsonic again (free run). Managed to drop into the 1'12s without much trouble at all.
Also tested right after with the Castrol Supra and found that the brakes on the skyline are super compared to the competition (didn't notice the brakes of the NSX when I tested it).
In any case, I'm always hesitant to trust that one car is faster than another (especially with race cars only seperated by year).
That's just how I am... I love to race with the cars people think are bad, I love to try setting records with cars people think suck, etc etc...
Plus, there are so many issues to address with the testing of what cars are fastest that I could easily name a few off the top of my head.
Driver, course, tuning, race conditions...
The driver and their mentality can make the difference between their best efforts and sub-consciously holding back (assuming fatigue is not an issue and the driver actually tries using two different cars!).
The course can be so influencial it is often over looked. For example, this course is perfect for running five gears and so it actually leaves the Supra and Skyline at an advatage over the NSX.
Like wise, a course's turns can make the difference in the primary rev-range (if I can say it like that).
Low speed, tight technical stuff is going to let the Skyline easily walk away with a win, but on higher speed bends the NSX may actually be a contender. 👍
The tuning of the car also plays a role, in that, some cars just do not run as well at certain power ranges. Like the NSX at full tune in GT mode?
That was a nightmare for anyone who wasn't a master of settings.
However, a stock NSX racecar is badass. Like wise, the Skyline may be a winner around 500hp, however, with full tuning, the Supra might be the car to beat.
Finally, the conditions of the race can make obvious differences.
Tire wear and driving aids can make a big difference in longer races when you have a variety of cars to pick from.
Sometimes having a lower power, well balanced car will be the best bet on a longer race. Even though the more powerful car can lay down faster lap times, the wheel spin and pit stops may eventually take their toll giving the true advantage to the percieved under-dog.
Of course, this has all been nothing more than the out of context ramblings of a mean old dog.
No one should really take mind of this stuff until the day comes that an appropriate discussion is set up in the GT4 forum.
In any case, thanks for giving me your time.
I'll be back later on when I've run a few more laps in my oh-so-pretty, blue Calsonic.
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- Devon
I must of gotten realy confused with the dirty times i gave earlier :S
just had a 90min session, still no clean. I tend to restart if the lap is s**t. saw a t3 of under 1.20 though, fist lap, so my laps lookin good for a bad posistion in div 1
just had a 90min session, still no clean. I tend to restart if the lap is s**t. saw a t3 of under 1.20 though, fist lap, so my laps lookin good for a bad posistion in div 1
- 2,670
- Portland, OR
- GTP_KLR142
How come running 5 gears is an advantage for the Supra and the Skyline? I'm actually running 4 gears for what it's worth, using 5 only when I mess up.Kent
And, I think someone got into your post and edited mean into that bold sentence... Might wanna edit that out, it might give people the wrong impression.
And, work it baby, down into the 12's.
Nicely done.
