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[Steph290]

Maybe if you are a GTP'er...

GT Planeteer! Why did Captain Planet's theme song just pop up in my head?
http://ih3.redbubble.net/work.4150194.1.fig,asphalt,mens,fbfbfb.planeteer-v3.jpg

But anyway, I'd like to know who sat in front of their television for 24hours. In reality, a driver would go through both physical and mental strain. Even tho it is virtual game, there is still a degree of fatigue felt from attempting to go that far in GranTurismo. If you did complete a 24hr endurance race in GT(on your own with minimum pausing), kudos to you! That's taking it too far in my opinion.

 

[Sephy]

I don't recall anyone doing that, nor do I believe anyone can do a whole 24hr race in one go.

Challenge accepted!

 

[Perkel]

I don't recall anyone doing that, nor do I believe anyone can do a whole 24hr race in one go.

That is why we people have something called friends and we should use them.

I still think it's wrong idea to have a save button...

Maybe they should make 24h race in 24 parts for you ? Will that be 24h ? No same with saves.

Maybe i'm to old (23 ) but i just don't understand why you would take part in 24h with saves.

It's like this CoD mode with Nazi zombies. It is too stupid for me to even play it. Same with 24h.

In those days people are just lazy ! (or have family )

I still remember playing Dizzy-like game on my nintendo like console where you couldn't save and you had only 3 lives per game. Game was superhard and after 2 and a half day without sleep i completed it !

In GT4 you had also B-spec mode where you could done game in circa 5 hours.. and in GT5 you will have an option to play b-spec even in your work..

To sum up this long post this is what they should do:

Like IRL you will only play total 6-7 hour in 1-2 h parts. Rest of the race should be played by AI or other human over internet.

It will be as IRL

 

[Spagetti69]

Imagine doing a 24hr race and a cute little nintendo sign poopping up every twenty minutes recommending a break.

Seriously guy's every game you buy comes with a warning of possible seizures and say to have regular breaks. It's called health and safety.

Can't see anyone putting a 24 hour challenge in without a save option.

 

[wakas]

I don't recall anyone doing that, nor do I believe anyone can do a whole 24hr race in one go.

100% positive I, among many others on this forum, can. And with dynamic weather (fingers crossed) and day night cycles, ill actually enjoy it, all 24hrs of it.

 

[mani_23]

If they were to have a save feature (Which I dont entirely agree on), I would atleast like only 1, or maybe 2 saves. I think 12 hour halves, they should give you the option to save, and if not, thirds, The lowest I would ever go is 6 hour saves.

Plus I dont find too much of a problem since most people just paused the game and left their systems on. So why are people passionately defending this?

Imagine doing a 24hr race and a cute little nintendo sign poopping up every twenty minutes recommending a break.

Seriously guy's every game you buy comes with a warning of possible seizures and say to have regular breaks. It's called health and safety.

Can't see anyone putting a 24 hour challenge in without a save option.

How much saves would they give us before the endurance race becomes a side-activity that you work on for twenty minutes every friday night?

I agree though, Health is a big concern.

 

[Slurm]

I like your idea about the sending saves to PSN buddies, analog. The best solution to all of this is probably to have 2 different types of enduros. Continuous and non-continuous. The separation should be there though, imo.

 

[eSZee]

That is why we people have something called friends and we should use them.

It will be as IRL

Maybe if you're 16 you can ask your friends to come to your house and play video games.
As for bringing real life into the argument, this isn't real life, this is a video game. A driving simulator not a 24hr pee in your suit if you have to simulator.
When will people realize that in these times, the ESRB or whatever other governing bodies, won't allow game developers to require gamers to sit in front of the TV for 6hrs or 12 hrs or 24hrs. What's the difference between saving and letting Bspec BOB race for you? You're taking a break in both situations and in the BOB case he's doing the racing for you.

 

[regnar]

I think Kazunori waiting to release the game, attempting to "creating the perfect racing experience." No matter how many "I's" are dotted & "T's" crossed, the game will never be perfect to everyone. Best example here. just a simple option to save on endurance races can become a major issue with some. I'm not sure if perfection can ever be obtained, if the game is released with no bugs as good as a game could ever be, it will never satisfy everybody. If Kaz sets the bar of perfection (which he has) without a outside force pushing him forward, then the game will never be done, always finding something else that needs improving.

At the end of October, the announcement of a new release date will give a clear indication of where the issues lies with GT, if the new date carries into November/December as expected, due to one or a few issued previously discussed. Then this can be given up to problems that typically affect other businesses. But if the new date is pushed into next year (March?) from a outward appearance this would reflect poorly on Kazunori time management skills. Given someone that should have a handle on the amount of time take to deal with different aspects of a project, the delay should not extend months beyond a given release date, but days. Each missed release date shouldn't be met with months of futher delay if you really have a handle of what your doing.

I am in a business that is service oriented (projects started from scratch), that requires us to give completion dates, the projects can take months to complete. Each project is different, which requires different things to be taken into account, but when a completion date is set, the date given will include a buffer to work out any issues that could potentially arise, because of experience any issues that pop up will be small. If the project goes without a hitch, then we can release it sooner, but if we find problems, we have allowed ourselves room to fix them. If the problems are major and can't meet the date, then where in the wrong business.

Hopefully my comments here will be met as a observation, and not as negativism.

 

[@nndr3w]

Not sure if anyone has a copy but I have been told that the December's issue of "Car" magazine has some info on GT5. Apparently theres a section on a car designed by Adrian Newy which is faster than the F1 car. If anyone has this issue please feel free to scan and post.

 

[eSZee]

Not sure if anyone has a copy but I have been told that the December's issue of "Car" magazine has some info on GT5. Apparently theres a section on a car designed by Adrian Newy which is faster than the F1 car. If anyone has this issue please feel free to scan and post.

Yes, welcome to last month.

https://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-5s-ultimate-car-red-bull-project-x1-prototype-teaser/

 

[StevenDunn99]

Check this out;

http://www.t3.com/news/gran-turismo-5-3d-gets-in-store-debut-at-t3-reader-night?=50109

 

[@nndr3w]

Yes, welcome to last month.

https://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-5s-ultimate-car-red-bull-project-x1-prototype-teaser/

Dave, thanks for this.

Still worth getting a scan from the mag as I think it has a mini review.

 

[Zimmerd]

Check this out;

http://www.t3.com/news/gran-turismo-5-3d-gets-in-store-debut-at-t3-reader-night?=50109

That looks nice..
But I actually think it will just be a demo build?

 

[Slurm]

Welcome in a non-sarcastic way too, andrew. Good info, as nobody has specifically noticed the Car magazine article, as far as I know.

 

[StevenDunn99]

That looks nice..
But I actually think it will just be a demo build?

agreed, I assume a demo, but maybe worthwhile if you work in central London.

 

[jcmc]

Dude, online or b-spec, as I said. You can even manage b-spec from your phone.

Making the reasonable assumption that some / all of the endurance races will be in the offline GT Life or Career Mode or whatever it is called, how is going online to complete a race even an option?

Why do you even assume that everyone can even get online with GT5? Using B-Spec is something you can do in, well, B-Spec Mode, so assuming there are endurance races in A-Spec mode then why would you a) even have the B-Spec option and b) even want it ?

Even trying to overlook all of this, hard though it is, why would anyone want to take on the tedium of driving for hours and hours on behalf of someone they know when there is no gain for them and their own game progress? There are hundreds and hundreds of cars and a number of tracks that might have endurance races. What happens if you pass duties onto someone who is just not used to the car or the track, or just would set that car up really differently from you and they ultimately make a mess of your race despite trying their best?

I could go on and on listing what if scenarios that would render your fairly hard core line on this as pretty impossible to implement, I'm sure the above should be enough.

 

[airjoker88]

Yes, welcome to last month.

https://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-5s-ultimate-car-red-bull-project-x1-prototype-teaser/

I think he's referring that it will be discussed in "car magazine".
good try though

 

[CT230R]

Hmm I didn't realise there was already a larger version

Is that Midfield Raceway in the GTR picture?

 

[Steph290]

Question:

What happens if you pass duties onto someone who is just not used to the car or the track, or just would set that car up really differently from you and they ultimately make a mess of your race despite trying their best?

Answer:

Just like it is in real life, matchmaking can happen on a site like this I guess, and yes trusting the ability and dedication of your PSN-partner plays a large role.
Would be a shame to transfer a perfectly driven stint which took you to first place only to be send back a save where you find you're the last on the grid with a fully damaged car 50 laps behind.
Maybe making a second copy of that save beforehand might be an option.

 

[bryanrlee]

Can someone clarify the re-confirmation of GTPSP tranferable cars info from the European event. It's stated that they will be transferrable to Arcade mode.

So what is the car selection for those who don't transfer cars in? Isn't this where they showcase all the cars and give you a taste of what to expect in the career mode.

I spent many, many hours purchasing all those cars hoping I'd be able to import them to my career. Then I can only spend my credits on tuning and upgrades.

 

[Perkel]

Maybe if you're 16 you can ask your friends to come to your house and play video games.

So you can't have friends after 16 ... or they can't some to your house,garage etc. ?

I must be weird

As for bringing real life into the argument, this isn't real life, this is a video game. A driving simulator not a 24hr pee in your suit if you have to simulator.

Yeah and you obviously can't drive for 6-7 hours in 1-2h parts with 1-2h breaks??? Eh ? Because that is what they do IRL.

When will people realize that in these times, the ESRB or whatever other governing bodies, won't allow game developers to require gamers to sit in front of the TV for 6hrs or 12 hrs or 24hrs.

Nope, ESRB get only sample of gameplay and devs are sending them overall what game is about and what is including (strong language,thems about drugs, rape , sex etc)

There is no "body" of law that will make developer change game because it need to be played long.

Law will change game if it only include some inproper content

What's the difference between saving and letting Bspec BOB race for you? You're taking a break in both situations and in the BOB case he's doing the racing for you.

That is in IRL some BOB teammate will drive his part of 24H

 

[infamousDee]

That's not a bribe of T10 paying off IGN to make GT5 look bad, is it? Didn't think so. That's the idiot Che bribing the, at the time, loyal fanbase for stupid votes. T10 was not apart of that, & GT5 was never put in a negative spotlight.

All Che ended up doing there was bring out the idiot fanboys from FM.net & this site.


You should really start hanging out with Ten. D.

I don't see how Turn 10 could not be part of something that involved one of their employees giving out over 2000 pieces of unique downloadable content through their official forums.

I'll just ignore that last comment.

 

[Slurm]

Making the reasonable assumption that some / all of the endurance races will be in the offline GT Life or Career Mode or whatever it is called, how is going online to complete a race even an option?

Why do you even assume that everyone can even get online with GT5? Using B-Spec is something you can do in, well, B-Spec Mode, so assuming there are endurance races in A-Spec mode then why would you a) even have the B-Spec option and b) even want it ?

Even trying to overlook all of this, hard though it is, why would anyone want to take on the tedium of driving for hours and hours on behalf of someone they know when there is no gain for them and their own game progress? There are hundreds and hundreds of cars and a number of tracks that might have endurance races. What happens if you pass duties onto someone who is just not used to the car or the track, or just would set that car up really differently from you and they ultimately make a mess of your race despite trying their best?

I could go on and on listing what if scenarios that would render your fairly hard core line on this as pretty impossible to implement, I'm sure the above should be enough.

1) Most people on this forum, taking part in this conversation have internet.
2) We swapped with the B-spec driver in A-spec races in GT4 for this reason, so it's not as irrational an assumption as you might think.
3) The reason I'd drive for hours on behalf of someone "with no gain to my game progress" is because competing in an online team event is more fun to me than sitting on my own working at a percentage figure.
4) It looks like GT5 gives us all kinds of social features to connect with people. If online endurance racing is possible, then it would be just as easy to do test-sessions, sharing a car.
5) If a (GT or real-life) friend had a crash, I would forgive him. That's racing. I'd prefer to compete with someone who was on a similar level to me, so neither of us would be dragging each other down, of course.

 

[Perkel]

Even trying to overlook all of this, hard though it is, why would anyone want to take on the tedium of driving for hours and hours on behalf of someone they know when there is no gain for them and their own game progress? There are hundreds and hundreds of cars and a number of tracks that might have endurance races. What happens if you pass duties onto someone who is just not used to the car or the track, or just would set that car up really differently from you and they ultimately make a mess of your race despite trying their best?

Yeah i still wonder why would people take part in 24h race where everything above is included

You know maybe i'm weird but i will be happy even if I will be last ! Because i took challange and make it to the end. I will be proud.

 

[Owen.C93]

Is that Midfield Raceway in the GTR picture?

I thought it might be, but hard to tell.

 

[maxpontiac]

Is that Midfield Raceway in the GTR picture?

It sure looks like it to me. Nice catch.👍

 

[Slurm]

Is that Midfield Raceway in the GTR picture?

Haha, hilarious spot. You thinking T1-2 of Midfield reverse?

 

[Kusogaki]

Making the reasonable assumption that some / all of the endurance races will be in the offline GT Life or Career Mode or whatever it is called, how is going online to complete a race even an option?

Why do you even assume that everyone can even get online with GT5? Using B-Spec is something you can do in, well, B-Spec Mode, so assuming there are endurance races in A-Spec mode then why would you a) even have the B-Spec option and b) even want it ?

Option\choice, the game offers both modes for Career, altough it is better to assume that it will tie Special events, Missions and Licenses to A-Spec, just like GT4.

Again, being able to experience these events is paid for by the consumer. There should be no limiting factor there. One wouldn't pay $60 for a game, which they can only partially play. It is in PD's interest to make the game more accessible. The hardcore will still be hardcore and the casual still casual.

That's not a good point. The limiting factor is the difficult of the race itself, not the duration. The casual paid for the game, the casual can experience everything, doesn't mean the casual has a chance to win everything.

I consider myself a casual and I don't whiny about not being able to complete the GT4 Mission 34 and I don't have this sense of entitlement that PD should make me able to win that race, just because I paid for the game. The race is hard, simple as that. The GT4 Nurb 24h race for example, the only reason I won was because of the B-Spec faster time progression and a really unfair type of car.

And IIRC, the Nurb 24h didn't feature the fastest cars, La Sarthe 24h I and II on the other hand had one of the hardest line-ups in the game. Meaning, if a casual even bothered to enter the race, first he should worry about keeping up with the fast AI cars, which for a casual, is a pretty hard task on trick tracks like La Sarthe and Nurb. Pointing the save feature as something that would help the casual in this situation is useless.

 

[CT230R]

Haha, hilarious spot. You thinking T1-2 of Midfield reverse?

Yup, the turn that is right before the tunnel.