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Well this is what makes you different than Kaz who practically pioneered this genre on consoles. He wants it to evolve and improve, not remain stagnant and stay the same for the next 10 years.

THAT was 10 years ago.
 
You even quoted the translation of his words, even accounting for context lost in translation, it's quite unequivocal what he is saying, it's not open to interpretation.

First of all, those aren't his words. That which I quoted is a translation of his words, which doesn't mean he said that in the first place. You say it should have been translated differently, and I say "how do you know that?", if we don't have his original words in their original language to begin with?

This isn't about whether developers should set release dates or not, that's another argument (One I fear you are having with yourself, but trying to drag me into)

And one in which I hold firmly my opinion that it's stupid to have release dates if there's the chance developers will delay the game.

this is about a developer saying once a release date is set how seriously he takes it..

Yes, I can see that.

The whole thing is about HK profusely apologising for a delay, all the headlines say things like "Hideo Kojima takes delay seriously", he goes at some length to say how sacred the release date is, how he preaches to his team that to delay is a crime..

True.

Now where in his interview does he say anything about not setting release dates, or that release dates are meaningless

Nowhere.

please show me where anything remotely infers this, other then your hypothesis of the obvious that "release dates can shift so they should not set any"

Here:

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Official announcement of a release date is nothing less than a promise to fans and business partners.

Promises can be broken, in case you didn't know. And I think I have made clear that what he is infering (release date = promise) is what makes me think that release dates are meaningless. I'm not saying that's what he thinks. But the way he is saying it, it's what makes me think that way. Case in point, that game had a release date, and was delayed.



And to be honest, I don't know what does that article has to do with anything. I'm 100% I saw somewhere in this forum an apology by Sony or someone else.

EDIT: Here.

"PlayStation 3" software-only Gran Turismo For Release of Version 5, on the production schedule, We've been expecting our first guide in 2010 has decided to postpone three month.

For his new release date as soon as this decision, we will guide again.

We wait for their release to everyone in this film that we apologize apologize for any inconvenience.

(Member translation)
 
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Competition? Oh yes, thats what you hear everywhere at this times.
Oh go on, they are losing it anyway, if theres a gt5 in the stores, two months later theres a new forzagriddirtshift with all what gt5new features also in it.
not forgotten the pc-games.
 
Yes, but how long did it take Turn 10 to add the features and release the game? In a 5 years period, how many Forza games would we see out the door? Again and again I say...RIDICULOUS!

What Jay said. 3 or 4 hundred people (excluding outsourced laborers?) making an OK game vs. 150 people making a masterpiece - Gran Turismo.

The rapid release of Forza titles probably has something to do with the fact that I could never be bothered to play any of them for more than 10 minutes.

Jay
As many as they can justify.

Totally different development team/publisher ethics and priorities.
 
People continue to credit GT5 Prologue with the interior view craze, making it seem every other game followed suit because of Prologue. It's just not the case to me, PGR 3 started the interior view craze this generation. Read any review and I can almost guarantee somewhere in that review it will state that said view was one of, if not the best in-game features that PGR 3 brought to the table for this generatiion, hell, it won an FPS game of the year award....and it's not even a shooter. I recall a couple of racing titles released after PGR3 that were criticized for having no interior view, or one that was lackluster compared to it.

Prologue's interior view is definitely great, but it seems people ignore that (seemingly developers and possibly a few people here) if it weren't for PGR 3 then perhaps it wouldn't be as much of a big deal as it is now.

(Yes, I am slightly off-topic as talking about release dates at this point is beyond boring....)
 
First of all, those aren't his words. That which I quoted is a translation of his words, which doesn't mean he said that in the first place. You say it should have been translated differently, and I say "how do you know that?", if we don't have his original words in their original language to begin with?
I meant the word 'promise' was not the best english word to have used in the translation, because as you've proved, the word promise can be taken as a weakly bound contract, the exact opposite of what HK is saying with his apology and reference to having a delay/breaking a promise as being a crime, and sure enough, I think we've found the source of your confusion, and hence why you later go on to say
Promises can be broken, in case you didn't know

[edit] I've removed the rest..

I get the sense that we are just bashing our heads together far too much, and in light of the funny images posted, lets just leave it at that..
 
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@interior view: who is looking after his hands and the steering wheel while driving in real life? cockpit and instruments ok, but i don't like some bodys hands in front of me while driving. well this is my opinion
 
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I have wanted to post this for a while. Did it in five minutes.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Glad to give you a good excuse :)

I wish I could claim credit drawing mine, when I saw it I knew it wouldn't be long before I'd have reason to post it!
 
Prologue's interior view is definitely great, but it seems people ignore that (seemingly developers and possibly a few people here) if it weren't for PGR 3 then perhaps it wouldn't be as much of a big deal as it is now.
And people as old as me will not even notice because we saw interior view in the original Test Drive on the Commodore 64. Granted it had no exterior gameplay view, so you couldn't actually look at the car while playing.
 
Sigh, I was expecting this so it's no surprise. Who knows, maybe Duke Nukem Forever will be released by them also.

:rolleyes:
 
You know what?

After seeing this pic i dont believe they release GT5 in fall 2010...

It doesnt make sense to put the Mercedes SLS (which releases April 2010) on the cover and afterwards they release the game when the car is about to be an oldtimer already.

And the cover is already confirmed by PD and Sony...

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People continue to credit GT5 Prologue with the interior view craze, making it seem every other game followed suit because of Prologue. It's just not the case to me, PGR 3 started the interior view craze this generation. Read any review and I can almost guarantee somewhere in that review it will state that said view was one of, if not the best in-game features that PGR 3 brought to the table for this generatiion, hell, it won an FPS game of the year award....and it's not even a shooter. I recall a couple of racing titles released after PGR3 that were criticized for having no interior view, or one that was lackluster compared to it.

Prologue's interior view is definitely great, but it seems people ignore that (seemingly developers and possibly a few people here) if it weren't for PGR 3 then perhaps it wouldn't be as much of a big deal as it is now.

(Yes, I am slightly off-topic as talking about release dates at this point is beyond boring....)

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Seriously though, as the old C64 games is just a flat image on the screen. Dreamcast Ferrari game had interior view on console years before, and the best modern 3-D view probably Live for Speed way before PGR3. Also GP Legends.

There's probably more, its just logical progression from 2-D to 3-D. PGR didn't start it.

Nascar racing games had the 3-D cockpit view from the mid 90's up until 2003

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Virtua Racing, one of the early polygon games around 1992/3, straight away doing cockpit view, this game was huge back then.

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It doesnt make sense to put the Mercedes SLS (which releases April 2010) on the cover and afterwards they release the game when the car is about to be an oldtimer already.

Well said, PD was proud because of the GT5P and GT-R unveils hapenned at the same time, they might been considering to do something like that for GT5, IF Sony allow them to do it.
 
You know what?

After seeing this pic i dont believe they release GT5 in fall 2010...

It doesnt make sense to put the Mercedes SLS (which releases April 2010) on the cover and afterwards they release the game when the car is about to be an oldtimer already.

And the cover is already confirmed by PD and Sony...

Explain GT4 for me than.

Ford GT went on sale in 2003 while GT4 didn't come out until 2005. The only reason they wanted to do the simultaneous release with GT5P/GT-R is because PD had a hand in creating it.
 
What Jay said. 3 or 4 hundred people (excluding outsourced laborers?) making an OK game vs. 150 people making a masterpiece - Gran Turismo.

The rapid release of Forza titles probably has something to do with the fact that I could never be bothered to play any of them for more than 10 minutes.

I don't disagree. However, they could have added better multiplayer, more tracks and cars to GT5p and released it as GT5, then work on GT6 for 3 more years. We would not be having this discussion. Taking this long to release a game on the PS3 is just bad all around, for the fans and for Sony/PD.

All we have to go by is what they have said and what little we have seen. Honestly, I am not that impressed yet. The GT franchise needs to be better than other games because the GT fans expect it to be. We (the fans) differentiate GT from other games. We expect more. One thousand (production) cars does not impress me, a lot of tracks would, good multiplayer, damage/wear, day/night, weather, multiple camera views, good AI, good penalty system, etc.. Good physics and modeling aside, we have seen little of the "good" in what we have seen in videos and the demo since GT5p.

I am sorry, my patience is running out. I would rather play 1/2 of Forza 3 that ZERO GT5.
 
What Jay said. 3 or 4 hundred people (excluding outsourced laborers?) making an OK game vs. 150 people making a masterpiece - Gran Turismo.

The rapid release of Forza titles probably has something to do with the fact that I could never be bothered to play any of them for more than 10 minutes.

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interesting Sony is promoting granturismo 5 on GOD 3 well maybe the delay is because after seeing those huge figures in the TT granturismo changed from a blockbuster title to the biggest title in PS3 history ,who knows ?
 
You know what?

After seeing this pic i dont believe they release GT5 in fall 2010...

It doesnt make sense to put the Mercedes SLS (which releases April 2010) on the cover and afterwards they release the game when the car is about to be an oldtimer already.

And the cover is already confirmed by PD and Sony...
Just using your post as a basis for mine, game covers aren't usually released until the game is pretty much ready to go, that doesn't mean something can happen that will delay the game, but chances are it won't be a long delay.

Looking at quite a few of Sony's exclusive games, and when their box art was revealed compared to the games release date, Sony for the most part doesn't put out the box until about 2-3 months before release. So I'm going to stick with a late spring/early summer release.
 
I think Sony, like most companies are dependent on their accountants and forecasting. They will release the game when they think it will make the most money, if this is in 2011 ( for example ) then it will be. They do not care about how the consumers feel, it's all about the numbers. So unless we can, as a group say that we won't by the game ( until they fall in the bargain bin ) unless they follow their own release dates. Nothing will change.

And i agree with some folks who say, you can't rush perfection. But there is always a limit to how long you can wait for "perfection".

Just my thoughts :)
 
zod
Alright, not REAL news but something:

First there was this news on the GT5 Driving Experience in Stuttgart on the german PS Blog: http://blog.de.playstation.com/2010...-gran-turismo-5-getestet-werden/#comment-4477

So I asked whether someone from PS Blog can go there and take some vids from the demo there: Not possible :(
I said that there should be more news from Gran Turismo 5 and the answer was somewhat like: I promise you, there will be plenty of News for GT5 if its getting closer, and if I say plenty I mean PLENTY.

Nothing new so far but later on he said something like: "Europe release has not been touched yet, so we have to be patient until fall"

Its not really official but maybe those guys at Sony already know that there will be no GT5 in summer ...or maybe its his personal guess, who knows :(


Did you read that guys?
This guy says we`ll have a lot of news soon, maybe true, why not?
Thx for the info ZOD
 
You know what?

After seeing this pic i dont believe they release GT5 in fall 2010...

It doesnt make sense to put the Mercedes SLS (which releases April 2010) on the cover and afterwards they release the game when the car is about to be an oldtimer already.

And the cover is already confirmed by PD and Sony...

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Honestly, wtf. What game coming out in Fall already has a box art with ESRB on it? And the 90% completion thing. Now the first race of the official GTAcademy winner is in what month May!

In the mean time hopefully we'll be seeing GT5 at Canadian International Auto Show,February 12 — February 21 at the Metro Toronto Convention Centre.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16879261178

Even if GT5 was delayed 3 months from March that would put it May or June depending if you count the month or not.
 
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