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[TokoTurismo]

MuoNiuLa is now silenced.

 

[another_jakhole]

FUN FACT

Dec. 2007

So, when is GT5's launch due? End of 2008?

Yamauchi: Yes, Christmas 2008 is the the planned release date for now. Anyway, it's not final yet. It's been tough to develop Prologue. To get the picture, if my current development team did GT1 again, they would finish it in two weeks. Back then we spent 4 years. It's very hard work.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

So part of his vision is to help others become real race car drivers. That's great, really. But what does his vision mean for the future of the GT series, as a game? That's my point. He achieved his goal of making people real race car drivers through his games. Good, now what? Obviously, not everyone who buys GT will become a race car driver or will even want to become one, so where does he put the rest of his focus?

And don't take what I say personal, please. I'm not trying to make anyone look stupid and I'm not taking a blow at Kaz. His ideas are just weird to me. I just can't help but be boggled when I hear about Kaz's vision and then look at GT5's strange design choices and wonder what the heck is the man doing with his games.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Someone was asking for it.

So yes, goody.

I know "proof" isn't needed, because all you've been doing is replying to everything I say to make me/others look stupid, but I'll just Quote why I think it was part of Kaz's vision for the car world. He first made GT for that reason.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/121/1212165p1.html
http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/kazunori-yamauchi-interview-gran-turismo-5?imageNo=6

I don't see why defending GT on a GT fansite is comical, Muonalkitiyk.

I've known Bryan for over 10 years; the idea that he "learned to drive on Gran Turismo" isn't exactly accurate. He's been doing autocross events for years with quite a lot of success - that's where he has built a good chunk of his (admittedly massive) skill set. This is overlooking the fact he's also been an iRacing player for years.

 

[Spagetti69]

Not bothered about his vision. It's his ears that need sorting IMHO.

 

[J-KiLLA24]

Not bothered about his vision. It's his ears that need sorting IMHO.

This I can agree with

 

[another_jakhole]

So part of his vision is to help others become real race car drivers. That's great, really. But what does his vision mean for the future of the GT series, as a game? That's my point. He achieved his goal of making people real race car drivers through his games. Good, now what? Obviously, not everyone who buys GT will become a race car driver or will even want to become one, so where does he put the rest of his focus?

And don't take what I say personal, please. I'm not trying to make anyone look stupid and I'm not taking a blow at Kaz. His ideas are just weird to me. I just can't help but be boggled when I hear about Kaz's vision and then look at GT5's strange design choices and wonder what the heck is the man doing with his games.

YOU brought that up. I was only talking about GT Academy and Kaz, his vision of what he wanted to accomplish with a game like GT. BUT

https://www.gtplanet.net/gt-academy-2012-game-details-screenshots-brings-content-to-gran-turismo-5/

Did you forget about the details of this coming GT Academy?


Nothing can be exactly as everybody expected or wanted. That, and there are so many things that aren't common knowledge about the past 20 years of Kaz's career in games that it'd take a while to explain (more like quote though) why a lot of things are the way they are and were like.
Obviously, there are problems/flaws/what the hell's? with a video game/series this massive.

Obviously, not everyone who buys GT will become a race car driver or will even want to become one, so where does he put the rest of his focus?

How would someone KNOW that?

I've tried. Low on time, so I'll just use these two.

GD: When you work on a game for so long, there are certainly things, as we talked about before, that don’t get finished or you just can’t do. Can you talk about how downloadable content has affected the process of game creation?

KY: What we do during development, we do our best in developing every day and we do what we can do. The difference between having a package only release like we did in the past and how we have downloadable content now is that before, it used to be you would have to set an objective five years ahead and work toward that goal. But now, there’s this time in between where you can keep releasing new content and implement new ideas. It’s great that we can do that because it keeps the content fresh and gives us structure and objectives that we can work towards instead of of having this big objective far out there in the future. It helps to keep our motivation up, as well.

GD: If the difference between current simulations and real life is thin, where’s the room for improvement in the next iteration of the game?

KY: There’s still a very long list of to-dos, a lot of things we haven’t done yet and we’re going to start doing them one by one.

 

[JDMKING13]

So part of his vision is to help others become real race car drivers. That's great, really. But what does his vision mean for the future of the GT series, as a game? That's my point. He achieved his goal of making people real race car drivers through his games. Good, now what? Obviously, not everyone who buys GT will become a race car driver or will even want to become one, so where does he put the rest of his focus?

And don't take what I say personal, please. I'm not trying to make anyone look stupid and I'm not taking a blow at Kaz. His ideas are just weird to me. I just can't help but be boggled when I hear about Kaz's vision and then look at GT5's strange design choices and wonder what the heck is the man doing with his games.

Dude it's so many factors though and please don't take this as a personal attack, but there is many good things GT5 and I believe people get caught up with all the bad they forget about the good. For example I was with my buddy online with both McLarens stock form on the Ring. As I left the pit I saw my buddy's MP4 parked with the lights on waiting for me. Mind you its day out but it's cloudy and gloomy out (Sleepy hollow) I pull next to him and I hear his horn go off twice so we pull off. The F1 94 is just a monster (no assist including abs) and the CSR is making my deltoids burn to another level. Mid way through the lap I have another Nemesis to battle.. RAIN. With no HUD and the rain going all over my windshield all I could do while driving was smile. It was an awesome experience and this in my opinion is part of Kaz's vision. Is GT5 missing somethings that make you want to pull your hair out I believe so, but at the same time it does some amazing things. In my opinion GT5 is going into the right direction and I believe Kaz vision supports this.

I know I don't have any chance in this up in coming event to win but I am still pumped up for some good competition. For the people who have won these events, GT has change their lives dramatically. That is cool anyway you look at it.

 

[trk29]

Nothing can be exactly as everybody expected or wanted. That, and there are so many things that aren't common knowledge about the past 20 years of Kaz's career in games that it'd take a while to explain (more like quote though) why a lot of things are the way they are and were like.
Obviously, there are problems/flaws/what the hell's? with a video game/series this massive.

I also understand where you are coming from as well. But I tend to look at some things and don't understand why it took till GT5 for Kaz to get it. Since everything before GT5P had no cockpit the only other views you had were rear and look behind not a whole lot to model. And something as simple as a reverse light to light up when you back up never got added????

Thats why people say "What the hell Kaz spend more time with your game instead of doing silly stuff." Me included. They need to quit with this marketing heavily on crap and focus on what GT5 is, what it was visioned as, and what it should be. Look at how soon you could buy GT5 clothing for instance.

BTW Damn your post count has gone way up.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

Don't have time to touch on everything.

YOU brought that up. I was only talking about GT Academy and Kaz, his vision of what he wanted to accomplish with a game like GT.

Yeah, I did bring it up. But did I quote you or say anything that indicated as I was talking directly to you? No. I came in here seeing "Kaz's vision" being mentioned, so I decided to comment on it. When I said "Someone" initially, it can be anybody. Doesn't matter if it's a GT fanboy, GT hater, or anyone in between.

How would someone KNOW that?

Good question. But if some of the choices in GT5 are anything to go by, who knows where it will end up.

Dude it's so many factors though and please don't take this as a personal attack, but there is many good things GT5 and I believe people get caught up with all the bad they forget about the good. For example I was with my buddy online with both McLarens stock form on the Ring. As I left the pit I saw my buddy's MP4 parked with the lights on waiting for me. Mind you its day out but it's cloudy and gloomy out (Sleepy hollow) I pull next to him and I hear his horn go off twice so we pull off. The F1 94 is just a monster (no assist including abs) and the CSR is making my deltoids burn to another level. Mid way through the lap I have another Nemesis to battle.. RAIN. With no HUD and the rain going all over my windshield all I could do while driving was smile. It was an awesome experience and this in my opinion is part of Kaz's vision. Is GT5 missing somethings that make you want to pull your hair out I believe so, but at the same time it does some amazing things. In my opinion GT5 is going into the right direction and I believe Kaz vision supports this.

I know I don't have any chance in this up in coming event to win but I am still pumped up for some good competition. For the people who have won these events, GT has change their lives dramatically. That is cool anyway you look at it.

Don't get me wrong. I love GT and I still haven't given up on GT5. If I did, I wouldn't be posting in this part if the forum. I want to try the new GT Academy out. Also, I plan on getting a Fanatec wheel that will hopefully breath in some new life for GT5, as well as Forza.

 

[MockngBrd]

KAZ has a great vision for GT... just too bad "fun" wasn't part of it (hides again)

 

[another_jakhole]

It's fun for me.

 

[Cyber_stig_77]

The biggest problem with kaz's vision is that it is clouded by dollar signs $$$.

 

[GTPorsche]

The biggest problem with Activision is that it is clouded by dollar signs $$$.

ftfy.

Putting out a game every 3-4+ years isn't exactly going to rake in the cash. Especially when a ton of it goes into making the game.

 

[Spagetti69]

ftfy.

Putting out a game every 3-4+ years isn't exactly going to rake in the cash.

I thought it sold well.
Sony seem to be losing money hand over fist.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I've known Bryan for over 10 years; the idea that he "learned to drive on Gran Turismo" isn't exactly accurate. He's been doing autocross events for years with quite a lot of success - that's where he has built a good chunk of his (admittedly massive) skill set. This is overlooking the fact he's also been an iRacing player for years.

Hell Slipz if jakhole watched the inside racing sim interview with Bryan you'd see how small a factor the actual game was to him being the ultimate winner. Especially when you then apply it to a real world applicaton. Also others should know that the games they so love to hate to protect GT was also used by Bryan if I remember the interview correctly.

 

[GTPorsche]

I thought it sold well.
Sony seem to be losing money hand over fist.

It sold well for a niche title, but PD doesn't get 100% of the money from each copy that is sold.

 

[Spagetti69]

It sold well for a niche title, but PD doesn't get 100% of the money from each copy that is sold.

PD is Sony though isn't it? Granted the 60/80 million had to go back into the purse but there one of the same.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

It sold well for a niche title, but PD doesn't get 100% of the money from each copy that is sold.

Hence why they do other jobs and sell merchandise to make up for the gap between games. Also with the combined revenue of the series what ever portion they get is a nice comfy one.

PD is Sony though isn't it? Granted the 60/80 million had to go back into the purse but there one of the same.

They're a subsidiary if that is what you're asking.

 

[ch3ng]

The biggest problem with kaz's vision is that it is clouded by dollar signs $$$.

Well . I think we can't Take the Vision to serios. It wasn't a Target which can be done.

GT is great and was Great, but you can't learn Driving with it. Ok you Get a idea what you need, but....

The AI, Sound, Damage Model (Not visual), tyre physic are to bad. And those Things are important. The Engine can't shut Down if you shift wrong for example.

GT and other console racinggame Target is the Mass market ...

Guess thats pretty accurate as GT Academy ends on the 26th on one of those screenshots..

Dont know why they're still competing with Forza this late into the release.

Well Forza will Get stronger. It was the Same with Xbox 1 to 360.

 

[Samus]

The biggest problem with kaz's vision is that it is clouded by dollar signs $$$.

Nope, the problem is that what Kaz wants isn't usually what the gaming public want. I know it's 'his' game but we're the people buying it, if he just wants to make a game for himself that's fine but when he's trying to sell it to the general public he needs to think about what they as a whole want, not just what he wants.

 

[Jamezinho]

Hence why they do other jobs and sell merchandise to make up for the gap between games.

With the user base GT5 has, a regular, focused and coherent stream of DLC (as with Forza) would make them more money than the boxed copy of the game. That's the obvious way to make money between games.

It seems like a massive missed opportunity to me. Just look how well the Spa Francorchamps circuit sold.

 

[TokoTurismo]

SimonK just spoke my language.

 

[ch3ng]

Nope, the problem is that what Kaz wants isn't usually what the gaming public want. I know it's 'his' game but we're the people buying it, if he just wants to make a game for himself that's fine but when he's trying to sell it to the general public he needs to think about what they as a whole want, not just what he wants.

Indeed. I couldn't write it better.

 

[TankAss95]

Nope, the problem is that what Kaz wants isn't usually what the gaming public want. I know it's 'his' game but we're the people buying it, if he just wants to make a game for himself that's fine but when he's trying to sell it to the general public he needs to think about what they as a whole want, not just what he wants.

Kaz makes GT5 to make money. If it makes money then what's wrong with that? People buy what they want and want what they buy. If know one wants what PD are making then no one will buy it.

 

[A_Higher_Place]

Kaz makes GT5 to make money. If it makes money then what's wrong with that? People buy what they want and want what they buy. If know one wants what PD are making then no one will buy it.

Just setting itself up for a poor GT6 release then? Majority seem unhappy.

 

[ASH32]

Just setting itself up for a poor GT6 release then? Majority seem unhappy.

I wouldn't read too much into that, people complain about everything these days. I'm sure GT6 will sell just fine.

 

[TankAss95]

Just setting itself up for a poor GT6 release then? Majority seem unhappy.

That's just how it is. If PD get a shock from the lack or majority of sales, then they will either try harder or possibly relax a little.

 

[Downhill Dino]

Just setting itself up for a poor GT6 release then? Majority seem unhappy.

GTPlanet is not the majority.

 

[JDMKING13]

GTPlanet is not the majority.

This^^ Some people really think that GTP is GT5 majority. This is why this site is so damn good. 👍